ESPN should hire a Data Engineer that understands hoops

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ESPN should hire a Data Engineer that understands hoops 

Post#1 » by BruttoNostra » Wed Oct 29, 2025 7:19 am

As a data person, it kills me how ESPN sucks in data that's not a random "Lebron is the first ever 6'8 to score 27+ points with 10 boards and under 1 TOs on a random Tuesday night in Charlotte when it rains outside and the opposite team wears white jerseys" fact thrown on the screen during a timeout.

Exhibit A:
Scoot is yet to play this season.
On his player page, it says
https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4683678/scoot-henderson
Stats GP MIN FG% 3P% FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
Regular Season 66 26.7 41.9 35.4 76.7 3.0 5.1 0.2 1.0 2.7 2.7 12.7
Career 128 27.5 40.1 34.0 79.3 3.1 5.2 0.2 0.9 2.9 3.0 13.3

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So they they still show his stats from last season in a row deserved for current season stats.


Exhibit B:
Dylan Harper has played so far in 4 NBA games in his young career.
https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/5037871/dylan-harper
Stats GP MIN FG% 3P% FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
Regular Season 3 26.0 48.6 28.6 83.3 5.0 4.3 0.0 1.0 4.7 2.3 16.0
Career 4 26.0 47.8 33.3 85.7 5.3 4.8 0.0 1.0 4.3 2.0 14.8

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How the hell he has 3 games in this regular season and 4 games in his career?
And his last game wasn't even tonight - it was more than 24 hours ago.

It's obvious the Career row includes that last game, while the RS row - doesn't (thus the difference in all the stats).
It's clear to me they have two separate processes bringing RS and Career data and they aren't aligned - might be diff scheduling, even diff logic/filters.
It's not knew, I saw it at least last season as well, but only for last night games, never for the prev night not being updated.

And in Scoot's example, since he's an active player on the roster, but yet to have any stats this season, they somehow didn't nullify those Reg Season stats on the first day for everyone - they probably do it only when a new data arrives or something.
Any Junior Data Engineer who understand NBA will make it work easily.

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Re: ESPN should hire a Data Engineer that understands hoops 

Post#2 » by Mavrelous » Wed Oct 29, 2025 7:51 am

I think that ship has sailed, NBA.com and BBref are much better sources for stats.
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Post#3 » by mj234eva » Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:06 am

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Post#4 » by bonita_the_frog » Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:09 am

The worst thing about ESPN is that they don't have a cough button, at least not on FIRST TAKE (that's the only ESPN show i watch).
They cough and sneeze on FIRST TAKE all the time and somehow its accepted :(
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Post#5 » by rand » Wed Oct 29, 2025 9:47 am

The "Worldwide Leader In Sports" appears to be perfectly content being a mediocre public source of sporting statistics. They should have just bought sports-reference years ago and merged it into ESPN.com. Or they could have used one drop from their wealth bucket to build an even better repository of statistics than the great sports-reference but they are just too creatively lazy and operationally conservative.
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Post#6 » by eyriq » Wed Oct 29, 2025 12:11 pm

They have the best advanced analytics team in the media.
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Post#7 » by SkyHook » Wed Oct 29, 2025 1:43 pm

1st question: "Who follows ESPN for stats?"
2nd question: "Who follows ESPN anymore?"
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Post#8 » by eyriq » Wed Oct 29, 2025 1:44 pm

SkyHook wrote:1st question: "Who follows ESPN for stats?"
2nd question: "Who follows ESPN anymore?"
Yes to both
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Post#9 » by SkyHook » Wed Oct 29, 2025 1:46 pm

eyriq wrote:
SkyHook wrote:1st question: "Who follows ESPN for stats?"
2nd question: "Who follows ESPN anymore?"
Yes to both

Good luck with that.
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Post#10 » by Wolveswin » Wed Oct 29, 2025 2:02 pm

ESPN jumped the shark many many years ago.

Move on.
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Post#11 » by maxpower8888 » Wed Oct 29, 2025 2:08 pm

Yeah, like someone else said before, you can go to basketball-reference.com if you want a quick look at stats, and nba.com if you really want to dig in.
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Post#12 » by UcanUwill » Wed Oct 29, 2025 2:23 pm

I try to ignore every ESPN content, it is just not for me and I do not have suggestions for them, I can not see them changing to a point I would like it. IF I want some random facts, I go to statmuse.com
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Post#13 » by dhsilv2 » Wed Oct 29, 2025 2:29 pm

rand wrote:The "Worldwide Leader In Sports" appears to be perfectly content being a mediocre public source of sporting statistics. They should have just bought sports-reference years ago and merged it into ESPN.com. Or they could have used one drop from their wealth bucket to build an even better repository of statistics than the great sports-reference but they are just too creatively lazy and operationally conservative.


God please don't. ESPN keeps cutting costs anyway. They'd by now have just fired the staff for sprots reference and we'd be without. Just like they dropped 538, grantland, and even the RPM stats. ESPN just doesn't want to spend a dime on sports stats.
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Post#14 » by LockoutSeason » Wed Oct 29, 2025 2:30 pm

ESPN should hire a data engineer who can fix their app from constantly freezing up.
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Post#15 » by dhsilv2 » Wed Oct 29, 2025 2:31 pm

SkyHook wrote:1st question: "Who follows ESPN for stats?"
2nd question: "Who follows ESPN anymore?"


ESPN used to be great. Hollinger and PER was the first well talked about stats. Then we had great coverage with grantland. RAPTOR on 538 was innovative even if not there yet. RPM was the first really fully available RAPM based metric. Just sucks that they've completely given up.
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Post#16 » by dhsilv2 » Wed Oct 29, 2025 2:32 pm

maxpower8888 wrote:Yeah, like someone else said before, you can go to basketball-reference.com if you want a quick look at stats, and nba.com if you really want to dig in.


NBA.com has amazing stats, but they've really failed terribly with making it user friendly. They also keep taking away things.

Basketball-reference keeps selling their play by play data but never does anything with it for us. Both are frustrating. And then things like LEBRON, DARKO, and RAPM are great but often have pay walls or worse, the people who do them get hired by NBA teams and the sites die.
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Post#17 » by Pantsman » Wed Oct 29, 2025 2:46 pm

They don’t care about actual sports anymore. Just hot takes and clicks.
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Post#18 » by eyriq » Wed Oct 29, 2025 2:47 pm

Net points and BPI are the best advanced analytics around. Stop sleeping on their recent improvements.

NBA Team 4FA - ESPN Analytics https://share.google/Uf9rD7Ls6Q6St6ibs
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Post#19 » by raleigh » Wed Oct 29, 2025 2:50 pm

eyriq wrote:NBA Team 4FA - ESPN Analytics https://share.google/Uf9rD7Ls6Q6St6ibs


Most people will be (wisely) uncomfortable clicking on Google Share link.

https://espnanalytics.com/nba-team-4FA
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Post#20 » by SkyHook » Wed Oct 29, 2025 2:52 pm

A nice resource for side-by-side comparisons of multiple metrics.

https://basketball-excel.com/
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