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[Capn'O]

Why is OG seemingly above slander? Dude often brings nothing on offense and his defense has been nothing spectacular more often than not.

Gets 3/4 what Kat gets but 1/100th of the criticism. His contract is a huge reason we're up against the 2nd apron.

I was just thinking about OG as well. He's also been pretty rough offensively to start the year and it's more than just missing shots. OG isos were always a bit of an adventure but so far he seems to be having problems putting the ball on the floor. Did he bulk up?

[Reign23]

we are 2-2 and I'll gladly take it considering the circumstances.
Hart, Yabusele and KAT are banged up, Mitch and Deuce are out AND we have a new coach.
We will be fine.

[Capn'O]

Everybody realizing what me and Melo told y’all about Kat. Should have listened to us. Sad.

We tried to tell them. Oh well. Team villain was right again.

I said the same things before and after the trade but there did come a time where I realized it's time to STFU and rock with the team we've got or find something else to do. Maybe not make every post a grievance post. That was about a year ago.

[Capn'O]

We dont have consistent enough shooters to play this system
It doesn’t matter if we shoot 50 3’s when we can only make 8-10 of them
This team has somehow looked worse than last year

damnit!

[ZeroStatic2]

FREE Diawara!!!

[MrDollarBills]

Knicks got to make this giannis trade happen. If you need to attach Mikal/OG along with KAT just freaking do it. Giannis went on a stretch in this game where he literally just took over by himself. Imagine we had that when Brunson goes to the bench.

Yeah but then we will have no wings.

If it was KAT for Giannis 1 for 1 plus picks that makes the most sense. Otherwise we will have Brunson/Giannis and nothing else.

I would trade Bridges and KAT for Giannis. I'm not giving them OG.

We’d still have 1 wing left though. And you can find any 3 and D wing for cheap nowadays.

I misread you, I thought you said give up both OG and Mikal.

I'm fine trading Mikal + KAT

We would then need to either start Giannis at C or try to make it work with two non shooters at C/PF. This seems more like an offseason trade than an in season one.

[MrDollarBills]

I'll be honest, I'm done with Karl after last night. I don't know what his problem is but he needs to get with the program. Immediately.

No one has time for this. He should be in better shape in order to play faster, and he should have a better command of the offense. On TOP of him making stupid ass fouls.

I'm sick of the BS. Either buy in or ask for a trade. Mike Brown shouldn't have to get up in front of the media to explain why an All NBA player plays like sh*t.

Get your ass in gear. The f*ck was Karl doing all training camp???

[KnicksGadfly]

Wish I could say it's something new with KAT, but we've seen this before. He had some really awful games against the Pacers, but then he bounced back and had some great ones. Hoping that's the case.

I'd love Giannis, but I don't think it's happening.

[KnicksGadfly]

KAT is a an extremely talented yet frustrating a flawed player....yes

Do we know the extent of his injury...no

Do we know how the trade rumors are effecting an extremely emotional player...no

Would I do the Randle and Divo trade for KAT again...no question

Now does that mean if a move down the road in moving KAT makes sense for this team to get where it needs to go...maybe...it could even be likely. But everything is opportunity cost. We also traded very flawed players to acquire him but KAT provided more versatility because our lovely extremely talented center that never plays in Mitchell Robinson along with OKC sending a godfather offer for Ihart basically forced our hand to do so.

Yah...not sure why Randle is being brought up. You can't even take his Minnesota numbers and translate them here because he had some very serious off-the-court life stuff that he was struggling with.

[Capn'O]

Wish I could say it's something new with KAT, but we've seen this before. He had some really awful games against the Pacers, but then he bounced back and had some great ones. Hoping that's the case.

I'd love Giannis, but I don't think it's happening.

That was the thing. In terms of an audition, we needed to beat them with him going nuclear to force the issue. Not a great showing, though I don't think we have much of a package for him regardless.

[MrDollarBills]

Everybody realizing what me and Melo told y’all about Kat. Should have listened to us. Sad.

No way is he this bad though. This is coaching. KAT has major issues defensively and has some weaknesses offensively but no way is he a 35% from the field type of big man. Hes one of the more efficient scoring bigs in the league and Mike Brown got him looking the worst he’s ever looked in his career. He’s tanking his trade value too

Karl shooting 2 for 12 and committing jackass fouls is not a coaching issue. That is 100% a Karl Towns issue.

Karl was doing this same soft, dumb ass sh*t under Thibs too.

[3toheadmelo]

Yeah but then we will have no wings.

If it was KAT for Giannis 1 for 1 plus picks that makes the most sense. Otherwise we will have Brunson/Giannis and nothing else.

I would trade Bridges and KAT for Giannis. I'm not giving them OG.

We’d still have 1 wing left though. And you can find any 3 and D wing for cheap nowadays.

I misread you, I thought you said give up both OG and Mikal.

I'm fine trading Mikal + KAT

We would then need to either start Giannis at C or try to make it work with two non shooters at C/PF. This seems more like an offseason trade than an in season one.

Yeah I meant only trading one of them. I think that should get a deal done. Mikal is having his best season in years right now so this is a good time to capitialize off that and use him for Giannis.

[MrDollarBills]

We’d still have 1 wing left though. And you can find any 3 and D wing for cheap nowadays.

I misread you, I thought you said give up both OG and Mikal.

I'm fine trading Mikal + KAT

We would then need to either start Giannis at C or try to make it work with two non shooters at C/PF. This seems more like an offseason trade than an in season one.

Yeah I meant only trading one of them. I think that should get a deal done. Mikal is having his best season in years right now so this is a good time to capitialize off that and use him for Giannis.

No argument here. I'm honestly so disgusted right now that I can't even try to see another way forward.

[MrDollarBills]

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It's really not fair for guys to pile on KAT when he's clearly injured and he played at an all-star level last season. He's not trash... he's just playing like trash right now.

If he's hurt he needs to sit. It's only 4 games in. We can survive until he gets right. That being said, the garbage play is inexcusable. I think we should and can demand better from Karl.

[Fury]

Everybody realizing what me and Melo told y’all about Kat. Should have listened to us. Sad.

We tried to tell them. Oh well. Team villain was right again.

I said the same things before and after the trade but there did come a time where I realized it's time to STFU and rock with the team we've got or find something else to do. Maybe not make every post a grievance post. That was about a year ago.

They seem to think that we don't see flaws in players, and think they're perfect. Like rooting for a team isn't bitching about all this every time they have a bad game and then say I told you so when it happens. We're hoping for the best. We don't know ****. We just hope they get it together. And this being 4 games into the season after making the Conference Finals last year, on the strength of KAT's performance as well, is hilariously pathetic.

[G_K_F]

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Megastars yet Karl Anthony Towns is mentioned in the discussion.

It would definitely be very Knicks-y for the Knicks to cash in all their picks for Towns.

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KAT for Mitch, Noel, Grimes, Sims, Rokas and 2022 FRP (CHA), 2 2023 FRPs (NY plus DAL) and 1st 2025 w/ 4 second rounders.

KAT is soft and not a winner. No on all counts.

KAT and Randle is a terrible tandem too.

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All this for Karl Towns? The guy's team is on a 13 game losing streak. He can't even lead his team to wins much less the playoffs.

Towns is soft. Jimmy Butler took a dump on him and demanded a trade.

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If we acquire Towns there is quite literally 0.00% chance we get close to winning a title.

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Reminiscing on my Towns hate over the years.

[The KnicksFix]

I’m willing to be patient with him, simply because when he showed up in the Detroit series, he made big shots and won us a game or 2 with those timely shots. Additionally, his man defense in the Celtics series showed that when it’s time, he can play in big games.
That quad is clearly an issue, but if he’s playing like this, let him sit and rest.

Hart on the other hand needs to get surgery asap

[HarthorneWingo]

Why is OG seemingly above slander? Dude often brings nothing on offense and his defense has been nothing spectacular more often than not.

Gets 3/4 what Kat gets but 1/100th of the criticism. His contract is a huge reason we're up against the 2nd apron.

I was just thinking about OG as well. He's also been pretty rough offensively to start the year and it's more than just missing shots. OG isos were always a bit of an adventure but so far he seems to be having problems putting the ball on the floor. Did he bulk up?

Maybe it’s this Brown offense that’s looking a little sloppy out there?

[HarthorneWingo]

Good first half. Awful 2nd half

We still have the same defensive issues. What’s different about our defensive scheme? Doesn’t even matter because KAT and Brunson are awful on defense you can’t hide them both. We will continue our defensive struggles because there’s just too many weak defenders playing at the same time.

Offensively need to get KAT involved more. He’s disengaged right now. No flow to his offense and you can tell he doesn’t know when and where he’s getting his shots from.

Not really feeling that good about this team right now

Hopefully getting Mitch and Deuce back will help with the defense.

[prophet_of_rage]

Why is OG seemingly above slander? Dude often brings nothing on offense and his defense has been nothing spectacular more often than not.

Gets 3/4 what Kat gets but 1/100th of the criticism. His contract is a huge reason we're up against the 2nd apron.

I was just thinking about OG as well. He's also been pretty rough offensively to start the year and it's more than just missing shots. OG isos were always a bit of an adventure but so far he seems to be having problems putting the ball on the floor. Did he bulk up?

Maybe it’s this Brown offense that’s looking a little sloppy out there?

KAT's feet are too big to play fast and OG isn't fluid enough. Neither can start and stop fast enough. You.see this in the amount of tripping, slipping and galling they do on their own. Physically they are limited.

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