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[3toheadmelo]

How is that worse, we saw the same thing for 5 years lol. Lets see what Mike Brown can do in at least 40 games.

Wym how is that worse you guys are upset that we only did it for 4 games. But doing it for 5 years is okay? lol that makes zero sense. Thats like saying it’s better to be toxic for 5 years than doing it for just a less than a month.

Mike brown looks like a total downgrade from Thibs. Sure Mike brown can turn it around, but if you look at Mike brown’s track record it’s very unlikely it even happens. But if we win the chip I’ll eat crow.

You're really not understanding what I'm saying.

Look at it this way. Would you get mad at a coach after 4 games or would you get mad at a coach who is doing the same thing for years?

Mike brown has been a mediocre coach for decades. He hasn’t gotten the first round of the playoffs without LeBron. You acting like he’s a rookie coach

[Fury]

Wym how is that worse you guys are upset that we only did it for 4 games. But doing it for 5 years is okay? lol that makes zero sense. Thats like saying it’s better to be toxic for 5 years than doing it for just a less than a month.

Mike brown looks like a total downgrade from Thibs. Sure Mike brown can turn it around, but if you look at Mike brown’s track record it’s very unlikely it even happens. But if we win the chip I’ll eat crow.

You're really not understanding what I'm saying.

Look at it this way. Would you get mad at a coach after 4 games or would you get mad at a coach who is doing the same thing for years?

Mike brown has been a mediocre coach for decades. He hasn’t gotten the first round of the playoffs without LeBron. You acting like he’s a rookie coach

That's not the point. Like you said, maybe he turns it around, who the **** knows. But you're arguing that getting mad at a coach after 4 games is the same as getting mad at a coach who has been doing the same things for years. It's not the same.

[3toheadmelo]

You're really not understanding what I'm saying.

Look at it this way. Would you get mad at a coach after 4 games or would you get mad at a coach who is doing the same thing for years?

Mike brown has been a mediocre coach for decades. He hasn’t gotten the first round of the playoffs without LeBron. You acting like he’s a rookie coach

That's not the point. Like you said, maybe he turns it around, who the **** knows. But you're arguing that getting mad at a coach after 4 games is the same as getting mad at a coach who has been doing the same things for years. It's not the same.

4 games? He been doing this wack sht for decades. Lmao. You gonna learn tho.

[Fury]

Mike brown has been a mediocre coach for decades. He hasn’t gotten the first round of the playoffs without LeBron. You acting like he’s a rookie coach

That's not the point. Like you said, maybe he turns it around, who the **** knows. But you're arguing that getting mad at a coach after 4 games is the same as getting mad at a coach who has been doing the same things for years. It's not the same.

4 games? He been doing this wack sht for decades. Lmao. You gonna learn tho.

If we're changing the argument, I know I've made my point. I mean it's not like Thibs was winning titles before the Knicks.

[3toheadmelo]

That's not the point. Like you said, maybe he turns it around, who the **** knows. But you're arguing that getting mad at a coach after 4 games is the same as getting mad at a coach who has been doing the same things for years. It's not the same.

4 games? He been doing this wack sht for decades. Lmao. You gonna learn tho.

If we're changing the argument, I know I've made my point. I mean it's not like Thibs was winning titles before the Knicks.

I made my point as well long before we hired Mike brown. He’s a great assistant, not a good head coach. He’s yet to get out the first round without Bron. If we replaced Thibs with some young coach then I would definitely be more patient. But Mike brown is who he is. He been in the league for so long, we know what he is.

Read on Twitter

[Gravy]

Same people trashing how the team was ran last year after every win/loss now calling for peace and support. hilarious

They got what they wanted now have to wear it.

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They trashed our ex coach and a former ex knick for 5 years straight after every single game and now since they got what they wanted and it looks terrible they want to preach patience and to act like “real fans” lmfao. The victim complex is real.

The audacity of them whining about who they think is rooting for losses when they were openly rooting for losses in the PLAYOFFS

I'm done. I'm not watching again until Thibs is fired. I hope we lose this series.

Brunson just gonna keep doing it and Thibs thinks it’s okay

Maybe better we lose and get a new coach

The absolute BEST thing to happen to this franchise is to lose this series

We’ve had the same exact problems in game 1 of the entire season vs the Celtics…. Hopefully we lose in game 7 and Thibs is fired

Caught in 4K!

[Fury]

4 games? He been doing this wack sht for decades. Lmao. You gonna learn tho.

If we're changing the argument, I know I've made my point. I mean it's not like Thibs was winning titles before the Knicks.

I made my point as well long before we hired Mike brown. He’s a great assistant, not a good head coach. He’s yet to get out the first round without Bron. If we replaced Thibs with some young coach then I would definitely be more patient. But Mike brown is who he is. He been in the league for so long, we know what he is.

Read on Twitter

I know man. Mike Brown wasn't my first choice either. But I want to give him a fair chance.

Also, he's been out of the first round without LeBron. It doesn't mean much but just a quick correction.

[3toheadmelo]

They got what they wanted now have to wear it.

Sent from my SM-S938W using RealGM mobile app

They trashed our ex coach and a former ex knick for 5 years straight after every single game and now since they got what they wanted and it looks terrible they want to preach patience and to act like “real fans” lmfao. The victim complex is real.

The audacity of them whining about who they think is rooting for losses when they were openly rooting for losses in the PLAYOFFS

I'm done. I'm not watching again until Thibs is fired. I hope we lose this series.

Brunson just gonna keep doing it and Thibs thinks it’s okay

Maybe better we lose and get a new coach

The absolute BEST thing to happen to this franchise is to lose this series

We’ve had the same exact problems in game 1 of the entire season vs the Celtics…. Hopefully we lose in game 7 and Thibs is fired

Caught in 4K!

But we’re worse than them

[HEZI]

They got what they wanted now have to wear it.

Sent from my SM-S938W using RealGM mobile app

They trashed our ex coach and a former ex knick for 5 years straight after every single game and now since they got what they wanted and it looks terrible they want to preach patience and to act like “real fans” lmfao. The victim complex is real.

The audacity of them whining about who they think is rooting for losses when they were openly rooting for losses in the PLAYOFFS

I'm done. I'm not watching again until Thibs is fired. I hope we lose this series.

Brunson just gonna keep doing it and Thibs thinks it’s okay

Maybe better we lose and get a new coach

The absolute BEST thing to happen to this franchise is to lose this series

We’ve had the same exact problems in game 1 of the entire season vs the Celtics…. Hopefully we lose in game 7 and Thibs is fired

Caught in 4K!

Pathetic! Some were even happy for injuries just to have their I told you so moment.

[NoStatsGuy]

They got what they wanted now have to wear it.

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They trashed our ex coach and a former ex knick for 5 years straight after every single game and now since they got what they wanted and it looks terrible they want to preach patience and to act like “real fans” lmfao. The victim complex is real.

Conversely, I do get a sense of grievance from you regarding Thibs and Randle. The reason I say that is because somehow, you've told yourself that they've been trashed all of 5 years. There were ups-and-downs. When Thibs first signed, I hated the signing and the forum, to a large extent, disagreed with me very strongly and I was even flamed some. That in itself shows that people were willing to give Thibs a chance. He ended up leading the team well, winning COY, and people were behind him then. There were calls for his head with Fournier, and then he turned it around. In regards to Randle, we've had 3 or 4 Eat Crow threads; he was supported for a while, then not supported, then supported, and not supported. Even before he was traded, there was a thread about whether we should extend Randle, and the majority wanted him re-signed. There should be zero sense of victimization towards Randle; he was treated more than fair. Moreover, he was struggling himself, as he shared in an interview. To put it bluntly, KAT surpassed all of Randle's playoff achievements as a Knick in G1 against the Pistons in his first playoff appearance as a Knick.

Anyway, we're not asking you to give KAT or Brown what you gave to Randle or Thibs. We're asking for 0.5% of what you gave Randle.

the thing i have a problem with is, that randle played injured in the playoffs but KAT is supposed to get passes. And the narrative around here has always been randle cant perform in the playoffs, which is definitley an unfair narrative.

the statement might be a bit exaggerated, but there are very obvious double standards around here.

[MrDollarBills]

Not gonna lie, I expected this would happen after losses Brown was never going to get a fair shot here, people were on the radio yesterday calling for him to be fired so its not just RealGM Knicks forum chatter.

Speaking only for me, I'm giving Brown more than 4 games before we start digging his burial plot. This is still a work in progress. The good news is that Brunson has acclimated himself to the new system, that's critical. Karl needs to get his sh*t together and we need to get Deuce and Mitch back.

Tomorrow is another day of work.

[MrDollarBills]

They trashed our ex coach and a former ex knick for 5 years straight after every single game and now since they got what they wanted and it looks terrible they want to preach patience and to act like “real fans” lmfao. The victim complex is real.

Conversely, I do get a sense of grievance from you regarding Thibs and Randle. The reason I say that is because somehow, you've told yourself that they've been trashed all of 5 years. There were ups-and-downs. When Thibs first signed, I hated the signing and the forum, to a large extent, disagreed with me very strongly and I was even flamed some. That in itself shows that people were willing to give Thibs a chance. He ended up leading the team well, winning COY, and people were behind him then. There were calls for his head with Fournier, and then he turned it around. In regards to Randle, we've had 3 or 4 Eat Crow threads; he was supported for a while, then not supported, then supported, and not supported. Even before he was traded, there was a thread about whether we should extend Randle, and the majority wanted him re-signed. There should be zero sense of victimization towards Randle; he was treated more than fair. Moreover, he was struggling himself, as he shared in an interview. To put it bluntly, KAT surpassed all of Randle's playoff achievements as a Knick in G1 against the Pistons in his first playoff appearance as a Knick.

Anyway, we're not asking you to give KAT or Brown what you gave to Randle or Thibs. We're asking for 0.5% of what you gave Randle.

the thing i have a problem with is, that randle played injured in the playoffs but KAT is supposed to get passes. And the narrative around here has always been randle cant perform in the playoffs, which is definitley an unfair narrative.

the statement might be a bit exaggerated, but there are very obvious double standards around here.

KAT shouldn't be given a pass.

Now should he get time to acclimate to the system and his role? Yes. But he shouldn't get a pass for selfish play and getting bitched by Kyle Kuzma. That is inexcusable. Do better.

[MrDollarBills]

Karl also needs to get in better shape.

[kNicksGmen]

4 games? He been doing this wack sht for decades. Lmao. You gonna learn tho.

If we're changing the argument, I know I've made my point. I mean it's not like Thibs was winning titles before the Knicks.

I made my point as well long before we hired Mike brown. He’s a great assistant, not a good head coach. He’s yet to get out the first round without Bron. If we replaced Thibs with some young coach then I would definitely be more patient. But Mike brown is who he is. He been in the league for so long, we know what he is.

Read on Twitter

I'm not a fan of mike brown - originally said "anybody but him" lol - but in his defense, what rosters did he have that should have gotten out of the 1st round? If you're using "without bron" as the measurement, that narrows it to his 3 years with the Kings.

[The KnicksFix]

Not gonna lie, I expected this would happen after losses Brown was never going to get a fair shot here, people were on the radio yesterday calling for him to be fired so its not just RealGM Knicks forum chatter.

Speaking only for me, I'm giving Brown more than 4 games before we start digging his burial plot. This is still a work in progress. The good news is that Brunson has acclimated himself to the new system, that's critical. Karl needs to get his sh*t together and we need to get Deuce and Mitch back.

Tomorrow is another day of work.

Exactly this
I think it takes 20-25 games for the team to actually figure it out
Maximum a half season (which I don’t think it will take this long)

Just let the team marinate. Last year we added two new players to the starting lineup, and one to the bench. We started 5-5
This year we added two new bench pieces and are trying to play 2 rookies more. Along with a new coach and a new system. Everyone needs to chill.

We are still without deuce and Mitch as well. With hart also not 100% to start the year. In addition to KAT

[thebuzzardman]

They got what they wanted now have to wear it.

Sent from my SM-S938W using RealGM mobile app

They trashed our ex coach and a former ex knick for 5 years straight after every single game and now since they got what they wanted and it looks terrible they want to preach patience and to act like “real fans” lmfao. The victim complex is real.

Conversely, I do get a sense of grievance from you regarding Thibs and Randle. The reason I say that is because somehow, you've told yourself that they've been trashed all of 5 years. There were ups-and-downs. When Thibs first signed, I hated the signing and the forum, to a large extent, disagreed with me very strongly and I was even flamed some. That in itself shows that people were willing to give Thibs a chance. He ended up leading the team well, winning COY, and people were behind him then. There were calls for his head with Fournier, and then he turned it around. In regards to Randle, we've had 3 or 4 Eat Crow threads; he was supported for a while, then not supported, then supported, and not supported. Even before he was traded, there was a thread about whether we should extend Randle, and the majority wanted him re-signed. There should be zero sense of victimization towards Randle; he was treated more than fair. Moreover, he was struggling himself, as he shared in an interview. To put it bluntly, KAT surpassed all of Randle's playoff achievements as a Knick in G1 against the Pistons in his first playoff appearance as a Knick.

Anyway, we're not asking you to give KAT or Brown what you gave to Randle or Thibs. We're asking for 0.5% of what you gave Randle.

Ya think?

[thebuzzardman]

it is early. but the point people made on here for years was that thibs was holding the team back. so far that doesn't look like the case.

They getting mad that we pointing out that narrative was complete bs

Some did. I think mostly people felt he didn't use the bench and wore players out by the time the post season came around.

Once Brown was hired, that's about all I expected. Maybe some more flexibility on offense, but it's not like the Knicks sought out some offensive mastermind/young fresh offensive mind.

[Kampuchea]

This new fast paced offense has been exciting so far, not sure how these teams they can slow us down.

[thebuzzardman]

Karl also needs to get in better shape.

Yabasule asked KAT to introduce him to the culinary delights of NYC. Unfortunately, KAT took him up on the offer and partook with him.

Disaster FA signing. Yabu has destroyed the Knicks frontcourt depth because he can't push himself away from the table, got KAT caught up in that lifestyle.

I bet Mitch's ankle's are bad from carrying too much weight too. All because Yabu wanted Cajun food.

[sol537]

Not gonna lie, I expected this would happen after losses Brown was never going to get a fair shot here, people were on the radio yesterday calling for him to be fired so its not just RealGM Knicks forum chatter.

Speaking only for me, I'm giving Brown more than 4 games before we start digging his burial plot. This is still a work in progress. The good news is that Brunson has acclimated himself to the new system, that's critical. Karl needs to get his sh*t together and we need to get Deuce and Mitch back.

Tomorrow is another day of work.

Exactly this
I think it takes 20-25 games for the team to actually figure it out
Maximum a half season (which I don’t think it will take this long)

Just let the team marinate. Last year we added two new players to the starting lineup, and one to the bench. We started 5-5
This year we added two new bench pieces and are trying to play 2 rookies more. Along with a new coach and a new system. Everyone needs to chill.

We are still without deuce and Mitch as well. With hart also not 100% to start the year. In addition to KAT

Yeah, we need to be patient. We could easily be 4-0 right now if guys were healthy and if a few more shots fell in those two losses. Some people said we need a guy like Grimes off the bench... we've got Deuce who is every bit as good. Chill.

I'm hopeful Mitch can play at least half the regular season games. He's a game changer when healthy. Some of you don't realize his 2-way impact. Against most teams, he's an absolute terror in the paint.