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Re: Hansen Yang 

Post#161 » by Norm2953 » Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:00 am

dckingsfan wrote:
Norm2953 wrote:None of us know if Yang will develop into an NBA level player but its a bit much to get hot and bothered about this player who is
adjusting to a new country and a level of competition after four games of a new season.

This. Different things going on here.

- Was Yang the right pick for this season?
- Was Yang the right pick when we look back from say 2028?
- Did this FO mess up the rest of the roster?
- Could we have secured NOs unprotected 2026 FRP
- etc.

But your point stands. Bigs take time to develop - especially bigs like Yang. Let's give him a couple of seasons.


I thought when they drafted him, he would spend a lot of time with the Remix for he needs consistent minutes in addition
to time to adjust for its a big jump from China to the NBA. Think of this like a redshirt season for he has some skills that
DC does not have but needs to learn English in addition to adjust to a new country. We'll all know by 2028 if they were
wrong.

I would have preferred getting the Pelicans pick in the 2026 draft but the team wanted Yang who would have been picked
by the Nets with one of their 5 FRP
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Re: Hansen Yang 

Post#162 » by Butter » Thu Oct 30, 2025 10:41 am

Free Hansen - send him to the Remix so he can get big minutes
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Re: Hansen Yang 

Post#163 » by Dame Lizard » Thu Oct 30, 2025 10:58 am

Cronin and Schmitz have egg on their face early on, with how good Coward has looked.

Early days this season, but our draft form has been poor in recent years.
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Re: Hansen Yang 

Post#164 » by PDXKnight » Thu Oct 30, 2025 11:58 am

Dame Lizard wrote:Cronin and Schmitz have egg on their face early on, with how good Coward has looked.

Early days this season, but our draft form has been poor in recent years.


Magic are off to a bad start would be cool if ghat 28 pick ended up paying off
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Re: Hansen Yang 

Post#165 » by Wizenheimer » Thu Oct 30, 2025 3:56 pm

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Dame Lizard wrote:Cronin and Schmitz have egg on their face early on, with how good Coward has looked.

Early days this season, but our draft form has been poor in recent years.


Magic are off to a bad start would be cool if ghat 28 pick ended up paying off


they don't start seasons well. They were 3-6 last season; 5-6 the season before. All of their main players are signed thru the 2027-28 season leading into the 2028 draft; except for Black. They will be butting up against the tax-line/first-apron though

but they have been terrible so far this season and surprisingly, it's been their defense that is failing. Last season they were 2nd in the NBA in defense; this season, they are 18th and are 9 points worse than last season. Usually, it's the offense that gets out of sync

but they are in the East, and even if they are a .500 team, they will likely be in the playoffs and not the lottery
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Post#166 » by JasonStern » Thu Oct 30, 2025 6:24 pm

Walton1one wrote:Are there really people here who think he will develop to be better than DC? If not, then you have to question why POR drafted him in the first place.

Yang can have all the time in the world and it is not going to make him any less lumbering on the defensive end.


I've stated this several times. Teams for sale. Get Chinese viewership up. Blazers traded down and landed a future 1st. There was probably nobody attainable that they wanted in the draft, so punt for a future draft pick or trade asset. If Ha pans out - big if - the Blazers spent negligible to no draft/trade capital while taking a flyer on developing Ha.
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Post#167 » by Walton1one » Thu Oct 30, 2025 8:25 pm

Except there are several players taken after him (or at #11?) who are looking like good players. If the Front office\scouting staff really felt that way, then they supremely suck at their jobs.
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Re: Hansen Yang 

Post#168 » by PDXKnight » Thu Oct 30, 2025 9:06 pm

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PDXKnight wrote:
Dame Lizard wrote:Cronin and Schmitz have egg on their face early on, with how good Coward has looked.

Early days this season, but our draft form has been poor in recent years.


Magic are off to a bad start would be cool if ghat 28 pick ended up paying off


they don't start seasons well. They were 3-6 last season; 5-6 the season before. All of their main players are signed thru the 2027-28 season leading into the 2028 draft; except for Black. They will be butting up against the tax-line/first-apron though

but they have been terrible so far this season and surprisingly, it's been their defense that is failing. Last season they were 2nd in the NBA in defense; this season, they are 18th and are 9 points worse than last season. Usually, it's the offense that gets out of sync

but they are in the East, and even if they are a .500 team, they will likely be in the playoffs and not the lottery


I agree theyre better than .200, by 2028 its a crapshoot who knows but with injuries, contract negotions, or what have you that pick might look better in the end. Not sure why small market teams ever trade unprotected picks but it feels like a good gamble and a good shot in the dark at maybe a good pick
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Re: Hansen Yang 

Post#169 » by BlazersBroncos » Thu Oct 30, 2025 9:41 pm

PDXKnight wrote:
Wizenheimer wrote:
PDXKnight wrote:
Magic are off to a bad start would be cool if ghat 28 pick ended up paying off


they don't start seasons well. They were 3-6 last season; 5-6 the season before. All of their main players are signed thru the 2027-28 season leading into the 2028 draft; except for Black. They will be butting up against the tax-line/first-apron though

but they have been terrible so far this season and surprisingly, it's been their defense that is failing. Last season they were 2nd in the NBA in defense; this season, they are 18th and are 9 points worse than last season. Usually, it's the offense that gets out of sync

but they are in the East, and even if they are a .500 team, they will likely be in the playoffs and not the lottery


I agree theyre better than .200, by 2028 its a crapshoot who knows but with injuries, contract negotions, or what have you that pick might look better in the end. Not sure why small market teams ever trade unprotected picks but it feels like a good gamble and a good shot in the dark at maybe a good pick


This is my take as well. They are a top heavy team salary wise, we have not yet seen Paolo (Or Franz for that matter) clearly take the reigns and make ORL 'his team', they are a small'ish market and they still struggle mightily with shooting (So far 30th in 3PT attempts and makes, 28th in %). I just dont buy them at all and think they will get broken up well before 2028. That pick is going to be gold.
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Re: Hansen Yang 

Post#170 » by JasonStern » Mon Nov 3, 2025 6:16 pm

Ha on the Rip City Remix is great for drawing interest in the Remix, but it's a terrible development league for bigs. The guards are total ball hogs trying to prove that they deserve a role on an NBA roster. Hell, Scoot was one of the greatest G-League players of all-time. And now he has 2 of the 3 worst +/- in NBA history. Proverbs 27:17 - Iron sharpens iron. Ha's best chance of development is facing against Timelord (when healthy) and Cling-Kong.
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Re: Hansen Yang 

Post#171 » by Wizenheimer » Mon Nov 3, 2025 6:38 pm

PDXKnight wrote:
Wizenheimer wrote:
PDXKnight wrote:
Magic are off to a bad start would be cool if ghat 28 pick ended up paying off


they don't start seasons well. They were 3-6 last season; 5-6 the season before. All of their main players are signed thru the 2027-28 season leading into the 2028 draft; except for Black. They will be butting up against the tax-line/first-apron though

but they have been terrible so far this season and surprisingly, it's been their defense that is failing. Last season they were 2nd in the NBA in defense; this season, they are 18th and are 9 points worse than last season. Usually, it's the offense that gets out of sync

but they are in the East, and even if they are a .500 team, they will likely be in the playoffs and not the lottery


I agree theyre better than .200, by 2028 its a crapshoot who knows but with injuries, contract negotions, or what have you that pick might look better in the end. Not sure why small market teams ever trade unprotected picks but it feels like a good gamble and a good shot in the dark at maybe a good pick


sure....all kinds of things could go wrong for Orlando. But, all kinds of things could go right as well...no?

their core rotation is pretty young:

Franz Wagner 24
Paolo Banchero 23
Desmond Bane 27
Wendell Carter Jr. 26
Anthony Black 22
Tristan Da Silva 24
Jalen Suggs 24

the average age of rosters:

Orlando Magic 24.7
San Antonio Spurs 24.9
Oklahoma City Thunder 25.2
Indiana Pacers 25.7
Memphis Grizzlies 25.8
Chicago Bulls 25.9
Portland Trail Blazers 26.1
Los Angeles Lakers 26.3

the season that will determine that draft pick starts less than 2 years from now. It's not like it's 4 years from now

obviously, if the Blazers had an opportunity to do the deal that Atlanta did and grab the Pelicans unprotected 1st round pick 8 months from now, the Blazer screwed up big-time. Pelicans are 0-6 so far. I don't know if Portland had that opportunity but it's pretty logical that New Orleans was shopping for a pick in the 10-14 range

so then an 11th pick in 2025 for a 16th pick in 2025 + an 16-18th pick in 2028? Good trade? Maybe, although if Yang is a bust, probably not a good trade. Now, I'm a pretty big Yang skeptic, so I have that bias. Maybe somebody who sees the upside of Yang I can't see will be biased the other direction
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Re: Hansen Yang 

Post#172 » by Walton1one » Mon Nov 3, 2025 7:00 pm

Yeah, not taking the NO deal (and dropping down to #23) b\c they needed to get Yang was a major mistake, no way to sugarcoat that. They were not the only team to do so, but still, this front office suffers from what the Olshey office did, too fixated on "their guys" and as a result they make shortsighted\bad decisions.

ORL was 41-41 LY and 47-35 the year before, still have a good young core and added Bane to that, IMO banking on that pick being valuable is hopeful thinking. ORL is off to a 3-4 start, let's see where they end up this year.
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Re: Hansen Yang 

Post#173 » by Wizenheimer » Mon Nov 3, 2025 7:46 pm

Walton1one wrote:Yeah, not taking the NO deal (and dropping down to #23) b\c they needed to get Yang was a major mistake, no way to sugarcoat that. They were not the only team to do so, but still, this front office suffers from what the Olshey office did, too fixated on "their guys" and as a result they make shortsighted\bad decisions.

ORL was 41-41 LY and 47-35 the year before, still have a good young core and added Bane to that, IMO banking on that pick being valuable is hopeful thinking. ORL is off to a 3-4 start, let's see where they end up this year.


as I said....I don't know for certain that the Blazers were offered the deal by the Pels that the Pels offered Atlanta. Logically, it makes sense Portland was offered that deal since the Blazers were two slots ahead of Atlanta, and apparently, the Pels were desperate to land Queen

I also remember reading/hearing that the Blazers were very interested in Queen in the 2-3 weeks leading into the draft. One interpretation of that rumor could be that the Blazers knew the Pels wanted Queen and were leaking they wanted Queen too to drive up the asking price for the 11th pick. Another leak that sure seemed to be coming from the Blazer F.O., repeatedly, is that Yang was going to be gone before the 23rd pick. Why would the Blazers float that unless they wanted to deflect attention from the trade that Atlanta made?

so yes, I'm assuming that Portland was offered the deal that Atlanta got but Blazer brass decided that Yang + a middling 2028 pick was worth more than 23rd + the unprotected 2026 Pels pick. Again, I don't know that's a fact.
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Re: Hansen Yang 

Post#174 » by dckingsfan » Mon Nov 3, 2025 11:02 pm

Wizenheimer wrote:
Walton1one wrote:Yeah, not taking the NO deal (and dropping down to #23) b\c they needed to get Yang was a major mistake, no way to sugarcoat that. They were not the only team to do so, but still, this front office suffers from what the Olshey office did, too fixated on "their guys" and as a result they make shortsighted\bad decisions.

ORL was 41-41 LY and 47-35 the year before, still have a good young core and added Bane to that, IMO banking on that pick being valuable is hopeful thinking. ORL is off to a 3-4 start, let's see where they end up this year.

as I said....I don't know for certain that the Blazers were offered the deal by the Pels that the Pels offered Atlanta. Logically, it makes sense Portland was offered that deal since the Blazers were two slots ahead of Atlanta, and apparently, the Pels were desperate to land Queen

I also remember reading/hearing that the Blazers were very interested in Queen in the 2-3 weeks leading into the draft. One interpretation of that rumor could be that the Blazers knew the Pels wanted Queen and were leaking they wanted Queen too to drive up the asking price for the 11th pick. Another leak that sure seemed to be coming from the Blazer F.O., repeatedly, is that Yang was going to be gone before the 23rd pick. Why would the Blazers float that unless they wanted to deflect attention from the trade that Atlanta made?

so yes, I'm assuming that Portland was offered the deal that Atlanta got but Blazer brass decided that Yang + a middling 2028 pick was worth more than 23rd + the unprotected 2026 Pels pick. Again, I don't know that's a fact.

If they were offered the unprotected 2026 FRP and didn't take it. Well, that is quite an indictment. Playing checkers vs. chess, if you will.
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Re: Hansen Yang 

Post#175 » by DusterBuster » Yesterday 4:29 am

dckingsfan wrote:If they were offered the unprotected 2026 FRP and didn't take it. Well, that is quite an indictment. Playing checkers vs. chess, if you will.


There were reports about the negotiations of how that Pelicans deal came to be. It was another Niko/Luka situation. Dumars had a previous relationship with the Hawks GM, he only called them for the deal. Blazers (nor any other team) had no chance at that deal. It happened out of their purview.
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Re: Hansen Yang 

Post#176 » by Walton1one » Yesterday 6:45 pm

While many scouts were impressed by Yang's offensive capabilities, the issue was and always will be his defense. If he is unplayable defensively (and he is) then the offense does not matter, barbeque chicken indeed....

This is from a scout who liked Yang, specifically offensively, but the concerns (many) were there for all to see...

Incredibly low floor on defense that can make or break his NBA future. Even in the CBA, can look like an easy target in the pick-and-roll. NBA teams will test him now and maybe always.

Below average physical tools despite his size and standing reach. Slow footspeed. No lift. Lacks a second jump. Rigid, inflexible hips. Plays with a high center of gravity. Cannot get low to or explode off the ground as a result.

Will have to prove that he can survive in ballscreens. Barbecue chicken in empty side or high pick-and-roll right now. Backline help at Qingdao was often very lacking, but not an excuse at all.

Can only open up his hips once, then leave his feet once. If he has to repeat either of those efforts, problems arise. Really lacks functionality and versatility guarding the pick-and-roll. Tape is worrying in the CBA, so concerns are amplified re: NBA.

Can’t add value on offense if he gets picked apart on defense. Offensive value is curtailed if he can’t stay on the floor, or can only play for very limited spurts.

Playoff projection is concerning because of his severe defensive limitations. At this point, resembles more of an 82-game than a 16-game player.

Might only be playable in Drop coverage. Needs to be insulated with length and size, plus on the clipboard. Cannot handle too much space. You don’t want to ask him to change directions often.

Drop simplifies his responsibilities and narrows down his radius of action. Needs to stay in front of the ball and keep his hands active. Better at doing this — also a more logical ask, in my opinion — but needs to do it more.

Struggles to decelerate and change speeds. Heavy feet, big body. Ballhandlers can just get lower than him and blaze past. You don’t want him guarding in space. Tougher competition in the NBA, obviously.

Cannot leave feet. If he does, he’s in trouble. No second jump or real recovery tools.

Athletic thresholds in the NBA are more demanding. Blocked a stepback three at the combine. Under control closeout to slide with drive and block at the rim. Interesting recent flashes in front of league decision-makers.

Will be surrounded with better size, athletes, and scheming in the NBA. Hope is that, plus being largely played in drop, can cover up his deficiencies enough for his brilliant offensive arsenal to shine. Maybe even needs to play with another big.


Yeah, the issue is, he would be playing with another drop big like Clingan is, that does not work.
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Re: Hansen Yang 

Post#177 » by dckingsfan » Yesterday 7:48 pm

I am not sure why this is news now? This was always going to be a case of will his offensive upside mask his defensive downside and what will that look like in a couple of years.

Not to beat this about the head and shoulders, but he was the 16th pick in the draft. "Playoff projection is concerning because of ..." will apply to most picks 16th and after.

We are going to need to wait a couple of years to see if this was a disaster pick or just a meh pick. A player that can play minutes during the regular season and not hurt you.

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