The official fire Chris Finch thread

Post #581 » by **Klomp** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:29 pm

KGdaBom wrote:I said I would not post here again and I haven't in weeks, but how do you all like my mashup of Finch and Connelly into one person named Finnelly. We can use that and praise/dismiss them as one.

I've actually liked it more than I would have expected to

Guest84 · Post #582 » by **Guest84** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:41 pm

I need Finch and Co to work on zone busting all summer and implementing an actual offense.

Note30 · Post #583 » by **Note30** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 8:04 pm

KGdaBom wrote:I said I would not post here again and I haven't in weeks, but how do you all like my mashup of Finch and Connelly into one person named Finnelly. We can use that and praise/dismiss them as one.

Nah I'll keep them separate because I still don't like TC. Finch is cool tho.

KGdaBom · Post #584 » by **KGdaBom** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 8:05 pm

Note30 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I said I would not post here again and I haven't in weeks, but how do you all like my mashup of Finch and Connelly into one person named Finnelly. We can use that and praise/dismiss them as one.

Nah I'll keep them separate because I still don't like TC. Finch is cool tho.

Fair enough.

Note30 · Post #585 » by **Note30** » Thu Jul 10, 2025 8:06 pm

Guest84 wrote:I need Finch and Co to work on zone busting all summer and implementing an actual offense.

Finch had a good zone break when we had KA and Towns.

Randle is pretty **** at breaking the zone. Naz is better than Randle at breaking the zone in the middle.

I don't know why we don't run a basic handoff with Gobert. Have him at the FT, give him a high entry pass, have Ant and McDaniels run across from him as a handoff forming an X, but just make it a tight handoff to one of the two of them and the other curls out, with the handoff having body to body contact.

Tons of college coaches run that exact play.

Think Town actually used that play a lot except he could pass so no need for the body to body contact.

Post #586 » by **Klomp** » Tue Sep 30, 2025 2:25 am

Watch on YouTube

TwolvesFanRome · Post #587 » by **TwolvesFanRome** » Yesterday 5:36 am

(provocative post)

A warm hug from Josh Minott: the one who couldn't set foot on the parquet according to the professor...

winforlose · Post #588 » by **winforlose** » Yesterday 5:49 am

TwolvesFanRome wrote:(provocative post)

A warm hug from Josh Minott: the one who couldn't set foot on the parquet according to the professor...

To be fair it was only 11 points, 14 rebounds, 2 assists, and 4 stocks in 32 minutes. That is hardly up to our standards.

FrenchMinnyFan · Post #589 » by **FrenchMinnyFan** » Yesterday 6:37 am

Finch is stubborn at times. When things goes wrong, he looks like he don't wanna change things or try new things. it's frustrating. Tonight he wait way too long letting the same 5 who were playing zero defense in the 3rd.

LSWF · Post #590 » by **LSWF** » Yesterday 6:24 pm

I don't know if it is on Finch, but not one single draft pick after 2020 has become a real difference maker for the Wolves. Seems to me that the overall team talent level is regressing. Finch may be part of the problem but the Wolves need to be better at drafting/player development or they will be sunk.

m2002brian · Post #591 » by **m2002brian** » Yesterday 11:35 pm

Traits of well coached teams.

They play hard
They come prepared
They don’t play with their food

1. Strong defensive identity
2. Clear offensive structure
3. Player buy-in and accountability
4. In-game and series adjustments
5. Development and maximization of role players

Finch Maybe, mayyyybe checks 2
Of 5 boxes.

Just done with him. He’s a builder not a finisher.

Neeva · Post #592 » by **Neeva** » Yesterday 11:46 pm

He’s not good at developing young talent either.

Post #593 » by **Klomp** » Today 1:32 am

Neeva wrote:He’s not good at developing young talent either.

Anthony Edwards, Jaden McDaniels and Naz Reid were all developed under Finch....

Neeva · Post #594 » by **Neeva** » Today 2:12 am

Klomp wrote:
Neeva wrote:He’s not good at developing young talent either.

Anthony Edwards, Jaden McDaniels and Naz Reid were all developed under Finch....

And zero since then

Post #595 » by **Klomp** » Today 2:49 am

Neeva wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Neeva wrote:He’s not good at developing young talent either.

Anthony Edwards, Jaden McDaniels and Naz Reid were all developed under Finch....

And zero since then

To be fair, most of the draft assets since then were traded in the Gobert deal. Since then, he's had...

Wendell Moore - Actually got as much out of him as anyone else did.
Josh Minott - TBD on him. He's shown flashes in Boston, but he showed flashes in Minnesota too.
Leonard Miller - TBD on him.
Jaylen Clark - Has definitely popped and seems to be close to the rotation at worst. Really about as much as can be expected from a second round pick.
TJ Shannon - Has popped in big games and is on the edge of the rotation at worst.
Rob Dillingham - Really, the main point of contention. But PG is the hardest position to make an immediate impact, and Rob came in super young.

Also, while not Minnesota draft picks, Finch has gotten a good amount of production other other teams' castaways like Nickeil Alexander-Walker and Luka Garza.

younggunsmn · Post #596 » by **younggunsmn** » Today 12:27 pm

Our schemes on both ends are absolute garbage right now and its because we refuse to change, and the league rest of the league is passing us by.
We've been running them so long the whole league has the entire book on any FInch team.

Yes, Finch is painted in a corner somewhat with the horrible roster construction and lack of ballhandling and passing on the roster.

But Finch has been badly outcoached by 2 very new head coaches in JJ Redick and Adelman so far this year.

Baseline81 · Post #597 » by **Baseline81** » Today 12:49 pm

Klomp wrote:Anthony Edwards, Jaden McDaniels and Naz Reid were all developed under Finch....

Edwards, being the type of person he is, would have developed as long as his coach was competent.

Certainly McDaniels has progressed, however, if you poll the fanbase I suspect the majority would feel he can be more involved, especially on the offensive end. In this regard, Finch has failed.

Complete agreement on Finch's development of Reid.

shrink · Post #598 » by **shrink** » Today 1:05 pm

Baseline81 wrote:Edwards, being the type of person he is, would have developed as long as his coach was competent.

This is probably my biggest question, and the antithesis is LaMelo Ball. What percentage of a player’s development is his internal mindset?

Nearly every player that makes the NBA is used to winning, and usually the best player on every team he has been on. Losing is unknown to these guys. How much does it hurt to start losing? How much does it hurt to see adult NBA players who are better than you? How many losses does it take before you stop caring about the team winning, and care about your own career?

I think Ant has a special mindset. I didn’t realize the significance when Chris Hines went to Atlanta, and a previous coach said, “Ant will work hard enough to meet his goals.” Well, Ant has incredibly lofty goals - to be the best shooting guard of all times (sorry MJ!)!

Now, to reach this stratified air, a HOF player needs everything pushing him up those last hardest heights. A coach that features you. Teammates that support you. A front office that builds a team around you, that helps you compete for championships and immortality. And of course, bringing off the charts athleticism doesn’t hurt (sorry DDV).

But I wonder - if Rosas drafted LaMelo, would we see a different Ball? If CHA had drafted Ant, would he be a different player?

I don’t know the answer.

NebWolvesFan · Post #599 » by **NebWolvesFan** » Today 3:29 pm

Baseline81 wrote:
Klomp wrote:Anthony Edwards, Jaden McDaniels and Naz Reid were all developed under Finch....

Edwards, being the type of person he is, would have developed as long as his coach was competent.

Certainly McDaniels has progressed, however, if you poll the fanbase I suspect the majority would feel he can be more involved, especially on the offensive end. In this regard, Finch has failed.

Complete agreement on Finch's development of Reid.

Yeah, that's wrong. Edwards easily could have become Cam Thomas. The work done by Rosas, TC and Finch to surround him with great vets like Rubio, Pat Bev, Rudy and Conley was critical.

That's my biggest pet peeve when it comes to a fan base criticizing a coach who wins. They assume that all the good things that happen would have happened anyways and the bad things are 100 percent his fault.

Edwards developing into an All-Star - would have happened under Ryan Saunders
Dillingham still not a rotation player - Finch's fault.

Baseline81 · Post #600 » by **Baseline81** » 49 minutes ago

NebWolvesFan wrote:
Baseline81 wrote:Edwards, being the type of person he is, would have developed as long as his coach was competent.

Certainly McDaniels has progressed, however, if you poll the fanbase I suspect the majority would feel he can be more involved, especially on the offensive end. In this regard, Finch has failed.

Complete agreement on Finch's development of Reid.

Yeah, that's wrong. Edwards easily could have become Cam Thomas. The work done by Rosas, TC and Finch to surround him with great vets like Rubio, Pat Bev, Rudy and Conley was critical.

That's my biggest pet peeve when it comes to a fan base criticizing a coach who wins. They assume that all the good things that happen would have happened anyways and the bad things are 100 percent his fault.

Edwards developing into an All-Star - would have happened under Ryan Saunders
Dillingham still not a rotation player - Finch's fault.

I see you didn't read what I actually wrote. Check the underline. Ryan Saunders...