Kyshawn George

[tontoz]

[tontoz]

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This man is Carmello Anthony with defense. What a beast.

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[The Consiglieri]

Trying to figure out if he's breaking through the "weaknesses" people had for him, or just accentuating his strengths.

It's really hard to get a feel for:

Supposedly it's basically athleticism that is a concern and to some extent defense.

Some nice little write ups:

NBA.Com Prospect Breakdown:

It’s a relevant red flag that George logged just three dunks across 713 minutes of action, as the 6-foot-7 guard continuing to develop as a finisher would be strongly reinforced with an above-the-rim style. Even still, converting 58.5% of his attempts alongside a potent 42.7% clip off 96 catch-and-shoot 3s creates multi-level scoring upside. George has deep range, advantageous size to release his shot and a handle to create separation at will. Development is needed, however. Among all players with at least 50 pick-and-roll ball handler possessions, George turned the ball over 26.9 percent of the time to rank 835th out of 884 qualifiers. He had similar struggles taking care of the rock and making decisions in transition, but his physical profile and shooting touch are huge pillars to work from. George is not an on-ball hound defensively, but he was a critical component of Miami’s defense -with the Hurricanes performing 10.8 points better with George on the court and ranking in the 82nd percentile nationwide in defensive rating during those minutes.

Projection
George will need additional reps as a ballhandler to adjust to next-level pressure, gain experience orchestrating offense, clean up his handle and capitalize on creating advantages in traffic. Even without the additional reps, George’s blend of size and rhythm is rare for a 20-year-old. Becoming an off-ball sniper and second-side weapon in the NBA, such as Amir Coffey, is a projectable outcome barring serious growth as a lead guard.


No Ceilings:

https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/kyshawn-george-the-educated-guess

Just how good can he be? I'm trying to figure out if this is a flash in the pan, or just a legit special player. There seems like enough in his profile to suggest he could be legit really good long term, but, how much is the athleticism issue gonna hold this back? If at all?

[tontoz]

Luka isn't that athletic either but size and skills go a long way. To me the key is his 3 pt shooting. He's had some epically awful stretches of bricking 3s, and he isn't shy. If he can become a reliable 3 pt shooter he could be a scary player.

If he can be a lesser version of Luka on offense while continuing to be a good defender that is a star player.

[doclinkin]

At 6’9” now his athleticism is no longer an issue. He’s remarkably coordinated for that height. And that’s 2” less that he has to jump to dunk.

Interesting catching the replay of the Dallas game to see his shoulders were practically at the same height as AD and Lively. He’s got kind of a short neck. But the floofy hair acts as another defender by itself. Eclipsing the basket and adding a few inches to his silhouette there.

More than anyone though he has succeeded in adding strength. He came into camp last year kinda skinnyfat. Doughy with slim shoulders. So even though he hasn’t added much actual weight he’s gotten bigger and stronger despite being leaner and taller. His arms and shoulders show the work. As does his balance when being bumped in traffic.

Kid seems to love the added strength since he’s bullying players out there. Very satisfying to watch and I expect the trend continues. Gets even stronger while retaining the skill. He’s a legit point forward. Bringing the ball up against traffic which forces teams to either commit to a Big on him early else he either shoots over their little guy or dogwalks him into the paint. It may take a bit for scouts to figure it out. So long as his handle holds up.

I like the nickname the Archetype for him. If this continues in a few years I bet teams are going to be saying “we need a Kyshawn George type” to get them into their sets and unbalance the court. Not a Unicorn but a legit multi skilled forward. Swiss Army knife nothing. He brings the whole tool kit.

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"The Archetype" -- love it!

[tontoz]

This guy does pretty good film breakdowns.

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[smoothSeph]

At 6’9” now his athleticism is no longer an issue. He’s remarkably coordinated for that height. And that’s 2” less that he has to jump to dunk.

Interesting catching the replay of the Dallas game to see his shoulders were practically at the same height as AD and Lively. He’s got kind of a short neck. But the floofy hair acts as another defender by itself. Eclipsing the basket and adding a few inches to his silhouette there.

More than anyone though he has succeeded in adding strength. He came into camp last year kinda skinnyfat. Doughy with slim shoulders. So even though he hasn’t added much actual weight he’s gotten bigger and stronger despite being leaner and taller. His arms and shoulders show the work. As does his balance when being bumped in traffic.

Kid seems to love the added strength since he’s bullying players out there. Very satisfying to watch and I expect the trend continues. Gets even stronger while retaining the skill. He’s a legit point forward. Bringing the ball up against traffic which forces teams to either commit to a Big on him early else he either shoots over their little guy or dogwalks him into the paint. It may take a bit for scouts to figure it out. So long as his handle holds up.

I like the nickname the Archetype for him. If this continues in a few years I bet teams are going to be saying “we need a Kyshawn George type” to get them into their sets and unbalance the court. Not a Unicorn but a legit multi skilled forward. Swiss Army knife nothing. He brings the whole tool kit.

Extremely early but I hope his play style doesn't take a toll on him. Having to be physical on all your drives isn't a recipe for longevity. Especially when he's a threat and players start guarding him more aggressively.

[tontoz]

At 6’9” now his athleticism is no longer an issue. He’s remarkably coordinated for that height. And that’s 2” less that he has to jump to dunk.

Interesting catching the replay of the Dallas game to see his shoulders were practically at the same height as AD and Lively. He’s got kind of a short neck. But the floofy hair acts as another defender by itself. Eclipsing the basket and adding a few inches to his silhouette there.

More than anyone though he has succeeded in adding strength. He came into camp last year kinda skinnyfat. Doughy with slim shoulders. So even though he hasn’t added much actual weight he’s gotten bigger and stronger despite being leaner and taller. His arms and shoulders show the work. As does his balance when being bumped in traffic.

Kid seems to love the added strength since he’s bullying players out there. Very satisfying to watch and I expect the trend continues. Gets even stronger while retaining the skill. He’s a legit point forward. Bringing the ball up against traffic which forces teams to either commit to a Big on him early else he either shoots over their little guy or dogwalks him into the paint. It may take a bit for scouts to figure it out. So long as his handle holds up.

I like the nickname the Archetype for him. If this continues in a few years I bet teams are going to be saying “we need a Kyshawn George type” to get them into their sets and unbalance the court. Not a Unicorn but a legit multi skilled forward. Swiss Army knife nothing. He brings the whole tool kit.

Extremely early but I hope his play style doesn't take a toll on him. Having to be physical on all your drives isn't a recipe for longevity. Especially when he's a threat and players start guarding him more aggressively.

I doubt his usage will be this high consistently going forward. We are sure to add more ball handling to the roster.

For this season i am fine with him handling the ball a lot and gaining valuable experience.

[nate33]

5 games in and Kyshawn is averaging: 18.6 pts, 8.8 reb, 5.2 ast, 1.0 stl, 1.4 blk, 3.2 to, .674 TS%, .548 3P% in 32.6 minutes per game.

Per 36, that's 21 points, 10 rebounds and 6 assists, and the only thing that looks unsustainable is the hot shooting from 3. His only real weakness has been that he's foul prone (5.5 PF's per 36) but that will hopefully be alleviated by Bilal taking on some of the responsibility to guard the opposition's best players.

I still can't believe how good he has gotten so quickly.

[mhd]

5 games in and Kyshawn is averaging: 18.6 pts, 8.8 reb, 5.2 ast, 1.0 stl, 1.4 blk, 3.2 to, .674 TS%, .548 3P% in 32.6 minutes per game.

Per 36, that's 21 points, 10 rebounds and 6 assists, and the only thing that looks unsustainable is the hot shooting from 3. His only real weakness has been that he's foul prone (5.5 PF's per 36) but that will hopefully be alleviated by Bilal taking on some of the responsibility to guard the opposition's best players.

I still can't believe how good he has gotten so quickly.

Dat was super right about Will Riley. He looks really
Good every time he gets garbage minutes. Spending the rookie year in the g league and building his body will make him a potential 6th man next year. Just like George last year, I’m expecting Riley to make a leap next year

[tontoz]

5 games in and Kyshawn is averaging: 18.6 pts, 8.8 reb, 5.2 ast, 1.0 stl, 1.4 blk, 3.2 to, .674 TS%, .548 3P% in 32.6 minutes per game.

Per 36, that's 21 points, 10 rebounds and 6 assists, and the only thing that looks unsustainable is the hot shooting from 3. His only real weakness has been that he's foul prone (5.5 PF's per 36) but that will hopefully be alleviated by Bilal taking on some of the responsibility to guard the opposition's best players.

I still can't believe how good he has gotten so quickly.

Dat was super right about Will Riley. He looks really
Good every time he gets garbage minutes. Spending the rookie year in the g league and building his body will make him a potential 6th man next year. Just like George last year, I’m expecting Riley to make a leap next year

I posted about this game in the draft thread when it happened. I was watching this game to check out Kasparas and then I was like WTF watching Riley:

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Fun to watch him work!

[DukeLecker]

5 games in and Kyshawn is averaging: 18.6 pts, 8.8 reb, 5.2 ast, 1.0 stl, 1.4 blk, 3.2 to, .674 TS%, .548 3P% in 32.6 minutes per game.

Per 36, that's 21 points, 10 rebounds and 6 assists, and the only thing that looks unsustainable is the hot shooting from 3. His only real weakness has been that he's foul prone (5.5 PF's per 36) but that will hopefully be alleviated by Bilal taking on some of the responsibility to guard the opposition's best players.

I still can't believe how good he has gotten so quickly.

In addition to foul prone. I think he’s been pretty turnover prone and leaky with his handles. It was especially bad against Charlotte where he just gave up the ball while dribbling for uncontested easy layups.