EARLY NETS 25-26 PREDICTIONS

[ecuhus1981]

Alright, let's crank it up!

The offseason isn't over, but it seems we are set with the roster that we have. How do you see it going next season? Here's what I have:

21-61, 12th in the East

Demin: 9/3/6/1/1 on 39/29/77 %'s
Thomas: 24/3/3/0/0 on 42/33/88 %'s
Mann: 10/5/2/1/0 on 43/31/75 %'s
Porter: 21/7/3/1/1 on 46/37/81 %'s
Claxton: 11/9/ 2/1/2 on 59/11/67 %'s

Williams, Sharpe and Traore get consistent rotation minutes.

[vincecarter4pres]

Early prediction?

24 wins, completely overachieving, and I hate it. But with very few on paper worse than us teams, probably still good for 3rd worst record.

I’m going to make a couple updates to this before preseason and my final prediction though, because I want to see what happens with Cam Thomas and even another salary absorption trade.

[Netaman]

Early prediction?

24 wins, completely overachieving, and I hate it. But with very few on paper worse than us teams, probably still good for 3rd worst record.

I’m going to make a couple updates to this before preseason and my final prediction though, because I want to see what happens with Cam Thomas and even another salary absorption trade.

this is where i'd make my guess as well. I think there's no reason to be worse than this either because the odds aren't that different 1-5.

[Decipher]

Watched the first game and we’re really bad

We’ll improve but still be bad

Lucky to get 20 wins

[Netaman]

Early prediction?

24 wins, completely overachieving, and I hate it. But with very few on paper worse than us teams, probably still good for 3rd worst record.

I’m going to make a couple updates to this before preseason and my final prediction though, because I want to see what happens with Cam Thomas and even another salary absorption trade.

i'd take the under on 24 wins, but i think demin will be good.

i think on good nights MPJ will be really good but will have bad nights and wont be as steady of a good veteran as camj was.

think clax gets traded.

no idea what happens with camt.

[Karate Diop]

Egor's development should be fun to watch.

[Decipher]

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[vincecarter4pres]

Early prediction?

24 wins, completely overachieving, and I hate it. But with very few on paper worse than us teams, probably still good for 3rd worst record.

I’m going to make a couple updates to this before preseason and my final prediction though, because I want to see what happens with Cam Thomas and even another salary absorption trade.

i'd take the under on 24 wins, but i think demin will be good.

i think on good nights MPJ will be really good but will have bad nights and wont be as steady of a good veteran as camj was.

think clax gets traded.

no idea what happens with camt.

If I had checked back in on this thread anywhere before the season started, I would have honestly pegged us for 18 or 19 wins.

This is a really bad team, no immediate blue chip prospects and wouldn’t be surprised to see MPJ, Clax or Cam T traded by the deadline. Or anyone on the roster for that matter.

[Netaman]

Early prediction?

24 wins, completely overachieving, and I hate it. But with very few on paper worse than us teams, probably still good for 3rd worst record.

I’m going to make a couple updates to this before preseason and my final prediction though, because I want to see what happens with Cam Thomas and even another salary absorption trade.

i'd take the under on 24 wins, but i think demin will be good.

i think on good nights MPJ will be really good but will have bad nights and wont be as steady of a good veteran as camj was.

think clax gets traded.

no idea what happens with camt.

If I had checked back in on this thread anywhere before the season started, I would have honestly pegged us for 18 or 19 wins.

This is a really bad team, no immediate blue chip prospects and wouldn’t be surprised to see MPJ, Clax or Cam T traded by the deadline. Or anyone on the roster for that matter.

i didnt realize the post i quoted was from july

yeah i think the camt era is finally at it's conclusion and would be really surprised if clax isn't traded before the deadline. MPJ too if they get an offer for him.

just gotta pray for ping pong balls.

[Karate Diop]

Early prediction?

24 wins, completely overachieving, and I hate it. But with very few on paper worse than us teams, probably still good for 3rd worst record.

I’m going to make a couple updates to this before preseason and my final prediction though, because I want to see what happens with Cam Thomas and even another salary absorption trade.

i'd take the under on 24 wins, but i think demin will be good.

i think on good nights MPJ will be really good but will have bad nights and wont be as steady of a good veteran as camj was.

think clax gets traded.

no idea what happens with camt.

If I had checked back in on this thread anywhere before the season started, I would have honestly pegged us for 18 or 19 wins.

This is a really bad team, no immediate blue chip prospects and wouldn’t be surprised to see MPJ, Clax or hCam T traded by the deadline. Or anyone on the roster for that matter.

When I watch them play, I almost feel like the team is bad by design.

I really wish the NBA would fix this lottery nonsense though, the more that I've been thinking about it the more sense it would make to take a two year snapshot/average of win/losses to determine lottery odds... Doesn't entirely fix the problem, but I'm of the opinion that the lottery should reward the truly bad teams that are devoid of franchise prospects, not those who are bad for a year because of injuries. The way teams jumped last year was sickening (notions of the draft being rigged aside)...

Also I know it's early, but I really want to see more from Egor from an attack the basket standpoint. I get that physically he's underdeveloped, but what's semi-concerning is that he doesn't seem to have a bag to go to... I'd rather see him miss and learn from his mistakes than to play so tentative though.

[Netaman]

i'd take the under on 24 wins, but i think demin will be good.

i think on good nights MPJ will be really good but will have bad nights and wont be as steady of a good veteran as camj was.

think clax gets traded.

no idea what happens with camt.

If I had checked back in on this thread anywhere before the season started, I would have honestly pegged us for 18 or 19 wins.

This is a really bad team, no immediate blue chip prospects and wouldn’t be surprised to see MPJ, Clax or hCam T traded by the deadline. Or anyone on the roster for that matter.

When I watch them play, I almost feel like the team is bad by design.

I really wish the NBA would fix this lottery nonsense though, the more that I've been thinking about it the more sense it would make to take a two year snapshot/average of win/losses to determine lottery odds... Doesn't entirely fix the problem, but I'm of the opinion that the lottery should reward the truly bad teams that are devoid of franchise prospects, not those who are bad for a year because of injuries. The way teams jumped last year was sickening (notions of the draft being rigged aside)...

Also I know it's early, but I really want to see more from Egor from an attack the basket standpoint. I get that physically he's underdeveloped, but what's semi-concerning is that he doesn't seem to have a bag to go to... I'd rather see him miss and learn from his mistakes than to play so tentative though.

it's definitely by design, and what sucks about it is that even if they finish worst it's still only 50% chance for top 4. if I were them i wouldn't have gone to this level of suck because it's not going to change the odds much from last year when they were at least getting praised as a respectable team overachieving vs. being this bad. but hey if it gets them boozer it gets them boozer, so hope for the best.

[Karate Diop]

If I had checked back in on this thread anywhere before the season started, I would have honestly pegged us for 18 or 19 wins.

This is a really bad team, no immediate blue chip prospects and wouldn’t be surprised to see MPJ, Clax or hCam T traded by the deadline. Or anyone on the roster for that matter.

When I watch them play, I almost feel like the team is bad by design.

I really wish the NBA would fix this lottery nonsense though, the more that I've been thinking about it the more sense it would make to take a two year snapshot/average of win/losses to determine lottery odds... Doesn't entirely fix the problem, but I'm of the opinion that the lottery should reward the truly bad teams that are devoid of franchise prospects, not those who are bad for a year because of injuries. The way teams jumped last year was sickening (notions of the draft being rigged aside)...

Also I know it's early, but I really want to see more from Egor from an attack the basket standpoint. I get that physically he's underdeveloped, but what's semi-concerning is that he doesn't seem to have a bag to go to... I'd rather see him miss and learn from his mistakes than to play so tentative though.

it's definitely by design, and what sucks about it is that even if they finish worst it's still only 50% chance for top 4. if I were them i wouldn't have gone to this level of suck because it's not going to change the odds much from last year when they were at least getting praised as a respectable team overachieving vs. being this bad. but hey if it gets them boozer it gets them boozer, so hope for the best.

I get where you're coming from, but at the same time with so many unethically tanking teams the Nets basically had no other choice... I'm pretty confident that given some talent Jordi can coach a team to overachieve again.

Hopefully this one step back will end up being two step forwards...

[Netaman]

When I watch them play, I almost feel like the team is bad by design.

I really wish the NBA would fix this lottery nonsense though, the more that I've been thinking about it the more sense it would make to take a two year snapshot/average of win/losses to determine lottery odds... Doesn't entirely fix the problem, but I'm of the opinion that the lottery should reward the truly bad teams that are devoid of franchise prospects, not those who are bad for a year because of injuries. The way teams jumped last year was sickening (notions of the draft being rigged aside)...

Also I know it's early, but I really want to see more from Egor from an attack the basket standpoint. I get that physically he's underdeveloped, but what's semi-concerning is that he doesn't seem to have a bag to go to... I'd rather see him miss and learn from his mistakes than to play so tentative though.

it's definitely by design, and what sucks about it is that even if they finish worst it's still only 50% chance for top 4. if I were them i wouldn't have gone to this level of suck because it's not going to change the odds much from last year when they were at least getting praised as a respectable team overachieving vs. being this bad. but hey if it gets them boozer it gets them boozer, so hope for the best.

I get where you're coming from, but at the same time with so many unethically tanking teams the Nets basically had no other choice... I'm pretty confident that given some talent Jordi can coach a team to overachieve again.

Hopefully this one step back will end up being two step forwards...

Don't agree, the 2 teams that won the lotto last year didn't tank. And PHI in 3rd only tanked when Embiid got hurt. The teams that tanked full season didn't get much for it. That's only 1 season, but we have been there before with Favors/Wall when the odds were way better for tanking teams.

I'd have fielded a competitive enough team to win 20 games and not get blown out by 20 every night, which essentially would have meant just having a DLo or Schroder type of competent vet PG like last year. I'd have planned to trade that guy midseason and probably go full tank after the deadline like last year too, the odds at 4th worst or 5th worst aren't that different from worst.

Odds worse than 2 in 10 aren't even worth considering (#1 overall pick). That is a long shot for everyone.

I pay attention to the top 4 odds and the difference between 1 and 5 is 52% and 42%.



further, if last year's team hadn't played above their level and camj wasn't able to play the way he did, he wouldn't have brought back the unprotected Denver pick. had he not had some help and been able to lead a more competitive than expected team, he would have been empty salary like a kuzma type, which is what i expect MPJ will probably be treated as this year.

just think there's more to lose by going full tank than there is to gain. they were 6th worst last year so they had 37% odds of being top 4 and 9% odds of being 1st overall. Call that 4 in 10 and 1 in 10. Amazing, best case scenario we can get that up to 5 in 10 and 1.5 in 10 this year!

And the low low price of that slight increase is Jordi getting dragged through a sewer for the next 7 months and dragging down any veteran trade value left on the roster while probably developing losing habits along the way.