Who do you recognize as the 2nd greatest shooter of all time?

[Deathray]

Klay if we're talking about just 3pt shooting.

If we're talking just about 3 point shooting it's Steph and Klay's coach.

[LeBronSpaghetti]

Steve Nash

[lambchop]

Dame or Klay

Dame is more like volume shooter than great shooter

Yea I feel as though Dame had the opportunity the Bucks (and with team USA to much lesser extent) to show what he can do in a setting where he's getting cleaner looks. However, his performance hardly resembled what I'd expect from the 2nd greatest shooter of all time. Catch and shoot and the ability get open without the ball are also part of being a top tier shooter. But that's the area where some of the expectional off the dribble shooters, like Harden, Dame, Kyring, have looked less impressive that other all time great shooters.

[JRoy]

Because he was 6'7".

Short guys need handles to get their shots off, tall guys can just play catch & shoot.

Some taller guys have very solid handles. Reggie was pretty one dimensional.

Can you name a tall player whose drastically better handles made him better at shooting than Reggie?

You are trying to get me to defend an argument I did not make.

I don’t recall many instances of Reggie manufacturing a 3 out of nothing with his handles.

I do remember Reggie getting his shots off catch and shoot or using screens to get open.

[The Explorer]

Michael Jordan. Jordan was elite at many aspects of shooting:

- creating his own shot
- catch & shoot
- making contested shots
- adjusting his shot in mid-air
- creating space on his shot

If I want a guy to take a shot from anywhere on the court under duress, I'm taking MJ over everyone.

[dhsilv2]

Reggie was a great shooter but really needed those screens.

Ray Allen maybe.

I mean, Reggie was 6'7", so he didn't actually need screens to get his shot off generally.

I'd suggest it wasn't so much about Reggie needing screens as it was about him creating a new rover position that to this day every single team needs but most don't have it, and many don't know they need it.

Not sure I agree.

His handles were mediocre.

Yeah but he was 6'7 and his natural 3 point shot was almost a fade away anyway.

[JRoy]

I mean, Reggie was 6'7", so he didn't actually need screens to get his shot off generally.

I'd suggest it wasn't so much about Reggie needing screens as it was about him creating a new rover position that to this day every single team needs but most don't have it, and many don't know they need it.

Not sure I agree.

His handles were mediocre.

Yeah but he was 6'7 and his natural 3 point shot was almost a fade away anyway.

True.

[Effigy]

I'd say Ray Allen. Klay, I think benefited a ton for being Steph's teammate. Lot more open looks than he'd have had anywhere else.

Steve Nash deserves a mention also.

[aliasxn]

If I had to pick one it'd be Reggie Miller.

Prime Reggie in role like Klay's would be an absolute menace.

[tsherkin]

Tough call. A lot of our emphasis today centers around range. When you emphasize threes, you have to talk about Dame, even if you don't select him. His middle game is tougher to support on that front, so it's all about 37% on a Curry-like volume from 3. Which I don't think is enough.

You have to mention Ray and Reggie. Ray more so, I think, because he was more adept with a live dribble and without the benefit of a screen, but Reggie was pretty nasty regardless. And he did a lot more than just curling around screens anyhow, I think Doc covered that at least a little. Klay as a follow-on. You should mention MJ, who was a huge-volume mid-range scorer on fairly nuts percentage. I think you have to at least consider Bird, though I don't think he's that guy for me. Got to at least think about Dirk.

Ultimately, I think I fall back on KD here. He's an insane shooter from basically everywhere. He's a career 39% shooter on 5 3s per game, and he's an absolutely bonkers mid-range guy on huge volume. Super tall, high release, just brutal trying to get to his shot if you aren't Wemby. Coupled to his handle, which isn't Kyrie's but is more than sufficient, he's a brutal cover. Especially post-Achilles.

If there's an argument against KD, it's that his peak shooting self wasn't his whole career, it's more recent, though he was awesome to start with.

Bunch of really cool options. Retrospectively, you have to at least kind of think about Iceman. I don't think they're 2nd best all time, but we should at least MENTION Dale Ellis and Drazen Petrovic. Peja and Chris Mullin, too. Just some thoughts to chew on to keep their names alive in conversation, you know? Peak Peja was all shooting, and Mullin was a 6'7 dude who just MURDERED you with his shot.

[Jamaaliver]

But my answer has to be Reggie Miller. People look back and say "oh well he didn't shoot that many 3s really" but nobody did back then. He was shooting more 3s than almost anyone else and hitting them at a great clip.

But the 3-pointer wasn't even his best shot! The 18-foot catch-and-shoot jumper after curling around 3 screens was his money, his bread and butter. And his free throw shooting was off the charts, leading the league most seasons.

True Shooting Percentage is a good stat for judging pure shooters. If you look at the all-time leaders, it's mostly big men. The highest ranked guard is Steph Curry, at number 8.

The next highest ranked guard? None other than Reggie Miller.

Without looking up any advanced stats or historical data...it's easily Reggie Miller.

The difficulty of shots he hit in clutch moments in the 90s was absolutely unbelievable.

Reggie Miller was the original Steph Curry.
And when you factor in the physicality of those old Knick, Heat, Bulls teams -- it's even more impressive.

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[JRoy]

Tough call. A lot of our emphasis today centers around range. When you emphasize threes, you have to talk about Dame, even if you don't select him. His middle game is tougher to support on that front, so it's all about 37% on a Curry-like volume from 3. Which I don't think is enough.

You have to mention Ray and Reggie. Ray more so, I think, because he was more adept with a live dribble and without the benefit of a screen, but Reggie was pretty nasty regardless. And he did a lot more than just curling around screens anyhow, I think Doc covered that at least a little. Klay as a follow-on. You should mention MJ, who was a huge-volume mid-range scorer on fairly nuts percentage. I think you have to at least consider Bird, though I don't think he's that guy for me. Got to at least think about Dirk.

Ultimately, I think I fall back on KD here. He's an insane shooter from basically everywhere. He's a career 39% shooter on 5 3s per game, and he's an absolutely bonkers mid-range guy on huge volume. Super tall, high release, just brutal trying to get to his shot if you aren't Wemby. Coupled to his handle, which isn't Kyrie's but is more than sufficient, he's a brutal cover. Especially post-Achilles.

If there's an argument against KD, it's that his peak shooting self wasn't his whole career, it's more recent, though he was awesome to start with.

Bunch of really cool options. Retrospectively, you have to at least kind of think about Iceman. I don't think they're 2nd best all time, but we should at least MENTION Dale Ellis and Drazen Petrovic. Peja and Chris Mullin, too. Just some thoughts to chew on to keep their names alive in conversation, you know? Peak Peja was all shooting, and Mullin was a 6'7 dude who just MURDERED you with his shot.

Good call on KD.

[tsherkin]

Klay if we're talking about just 3pt shooting.

If we're talking just about 3 point shooting it's Steph and Klay's coach.

Nah. If you were going to take a straight-up C+S three-ball guy, it'd be Korver over Kerr all day. Steve Kerr didn't shoot nearly enough to really count here. Hell, JJ Redick would be a better choice than Kerr.

[The4thHorseman]

All around shooter is KD.

For just 3pt'ers it's Curry

[TravisScott55]

Dame or Klay

Dame is more like volume shooter than great shooter

fair

[Tnasty4l]

He never made it to the NBA but it has to be Lamar Mundane,lol.

[hauntedcomputer]

Jerry West

[Chokic]

The usual names off top of head

Reggie
Klay
Ray
Bird
Mullin
Dirk
Kd
Nash
Price


Similar logic to curry im going nash bc of the extra degree of difficulty of pulling off that high shooting % based off volume and being alot shorter getting your shot off against taller longer super athletes.

[Ol Roy]

Tough question, but I'm most confident in the answer being Nash.

He's really the only player that we know can match Curry's efficiency from the midrange, behind the arc, and at the line.

Nash isn't the highest volume shooter, but that isn't enough to knock him off, IMO.

[NbaAllDay]

Because he was 6'7".

Short guys need handles to get their shots off, tall guys can just play catch & shoot.

Some taller guys have very solid handles. Reggie was pretty one dimensional.

Can you name a tall player whose drastically better handles made him better at shooting than Reggie?

He didn't need better handles, his team doesn't improve anymore with him being able to constantly attack off the dribble.

Wasn't even a trait associated with anyone over 6,6ish tbh. Not a fair measure of critique for him at that time.