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TKKnicks1 wrote:Sometimes it's OK to put down your rosey colored glasses even on your franchise savior. Brunson sucks on D man. He's too small and laterally he's awkward as hell. Should have made the Giannis trade.
kNicksGmen wrote:the limited mitch + kat minutes were pretty good. thought they should have closed with that lineup instead of swapping mitch for kat.
Deuce was pretty awful. brunson's defense was terrible and he made too many selfish plays down
thebuzzardman wrote:Boy, Mitch and Josh Hart sure added a lot to the team tonight, eh?
KnicksGadfly wrote:jvsimonetti0514 wrote:KnicksGadfly wrote:
And I'm okay with that. I would rather explore now, as opposed to randomly throwing in Landry Shamet and Delon Wright onto the floor in the playoffs against the Pacers and telling them to figure it out then.
Even Thibs took 20 games to figure out he had to bench Fournier's ass.
How many more games are you willing to lose to keep playing around with line ups?
Not sure. But I probably wouldn't be whining after 5 games and a 2-3 record. Well, not unless I really really unconditionally loved a player who a lot of people disliked for justifiable reasons, and I needed to put down his replacement to try and justify my love for him. Then I'd probably jump the gun and proclaim victory and feel a vicious joy when the Knicks lose.
Or same with a coach.In the end, I'm judging Mike Brown by whether he can get us to the next level in the playoffs. If I just wanted the regular season wins, I would totally be a Thibs supporter though.
Guano wrote:Red Vines wrote:We have enough talent to make up for some of deficits but the deficits are really being exposed right now: guards too light, too soft, too small and bigs too slow, too soft, too few. The pace, increased possessions, is exposing it more. But it's mainly a roster problem, you're not winning a championship unless you can play uptempo and defend.
Hard to win when both of your "stars" are liabilities on defense and are dont really play off each other well on offense. Sure kat helps with spacing for kat. But that about all the cohesion we see from them.
RHODEY wrote:kNicksGmen wrote:the limited mitch + kat minutes were pretty good. thought they should have closed with that lineup instead of swapping mitch for kat.
Deuce was pretty awful. brunson's defense was terrible and he made too many selfish plays down
Dont think it was selfishness, just lack of awareness,,he did pass to KAT...who unfortunately couldnt connect on wide open 3's.
sol537 wrote:Mitch, KAT, OG, Mikal, Brunson
With Huk, Deuce, Shamet, and Kolek getting the bulk of the bench minutes is decent. Hart has to get surgery.
jvsimonetti0514 wrote:KnicksGadfly wrote:jvsimonetti0514 wrote:We allowed 35+ points in 3 of the 4 quarters tonight. Bulls basically ran us off the court. It’s no wonder we looked better when we shorted the rotation in the second half. Just another example of how Mike browns experimentation is losing us games.
And I'm okay with that. I would rather explore now, as opposed to randomly throwing in Landry Shamet and Delon Wright onto the floor in the playoffs against the Pacers and telling them to figure it out then.
Even Thibs took 20 games to figure out he had to bench Fournier's ass.
How many more games are you willing to lose to keep playing around with line ups?
kNicksGmen wrote:Guano wrote:kNicksGmen wrote:I watched a stream of the bulls broadcast.... did they mention anything about Yabs or why he didn't play at all after his short stint early? He hit a 3 and had a block - didn't think he looked bad.
He had a horrendous drive then was immediately blown by on defense and that was the end of his night.
So is he brown's scapegoat? I went back to re-watch because that's not how I remembered it.
He got switched onto heurter and let him go by and fouled him. Normal play. Was nothing out of the ordnary for your 5 man in that situation.
Then he attempted a drive and missed a layup - was again a normal play.
if anything the next play got him benched, but it was just josh hart losing his man - if anything hart should be benched. guy just slipped right through and caught an easy pass for a layup. horrible defense by hart. you could argue yabs playing the 5 there should be sunk into the paint more to help on that, but his assignment at the time was smith in the corner who can shoot 3s. Brown called timeout after the play.
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jvsimonetti0514 wrote:KnicksGadfly wrote:jvsimonetti0514 wrote:
How many more games are you willing to lose to keep playing around with line ups?
Not sure. But I probably wouldn't be whining after 5 games and a 2-3 record. Well, not unless I really really unconditionally loved a player who a lot of people disliked for justifiable reasons, and I needed to put down his replacement to try and justify my love for him. Then I'd probably jump the gun and proclaim victory and feel a vicious joy when the Knicks lose.
Or same with a coach.In the end, I'm judging Mike Brown by whether he can get us to the next level in the playoffs. If I just wanted the regular season wins, I would totally be a Thibs supporter though.
Regular seasons wins do matter though. Like I don’t want to lose out on home court cuz this coach wants to see if Brunson, Clarkson, deuce, hart, yabu line ups work.
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:TKKnicks1 wrote:Sometimes it's OK to put down your rosey colored glasses even on your franchise savior. Brunson sucks on D man. He's too small and laterally he's awkward as hell. Should have made the Giannis trade.
You think you trade Brunson for Giannis? I hadn't thought about that.
mpharris36 wrote:Brunson said we didn't "follow the gameplan"
I mean what in the world...
TKKnicks1 wrote:B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:TKKnicks1 wrote:Sometimes it's OK to put down your rosey colored glasses even on your franchise savior. Brunson sucks on D man. He's too small and laterally he's awkward as hell. Should have made the Giannis trade.
You think you trade Brunson for Giannis? I hadn't thought about that.
The rumors said this was the trade that was on the table which the Knicks rejected.
JayTWill wrote:jvsimonetti0514 wrote:KnicksGadfly wrote:
Not sure. But I probably wouldn't be whining after 5 games and a 2-3 record. Well, not unless I really really unconditionally loved a player who a lot of people disliked for justifiable reasons, and I needed to put down his replacement to try and justify my love for him. Then I'd probably jump the gun and proclaim victory and feel a vicious joy when the Knicks lose.
Or same with a coach.In the end, I'm judging Mike Brown by whether he can get us to the next level in the playoffs. If I just wanted the regular season wins, I would totally be a Thibs supporter though.
Regular seasons wins do matter though. Like I don’t want to lose out on home court cuz this coach wants to see if Brunson, Clarkson, deuce, hart, yabu line ups work.
But weren't we eliminated from the playoffs the last 4 times in series where they home court advantage? Not saying that I agree with some of the lineups combinations but the Knicks were eliminated by lower seeded Hawks, Heat and Pacers 2x.
We spent all year running the same lineup out there last year and it felt like we just threw a hail mary in the ECF playing lineups that had barely played together. I'd rather throw random stuff out here early in the season and not out of desperation in the postseason.
jvsimonetti0514 wrote:JayTWill wrote:jvsimonetti0514 wrote:
Regular seasons wins do matter though. Like I don’t want to lose out on home court cuz this coach wants to see if Brunson, Clarkson, deuce, hart, yabu line ups work.
But weren't we eliminated from the playoffs the last 4 times in series where they home court advantage? Not saying that I agree with some of the lineups combinations but the Knicks were eliminated by lower seeded Hawks, Heat and Pacers 2x.
We spent all year running the same lineup out there last year and it felt like we just threw a hail mary in the ECF playing lineups that had barely played together. I'd rather throw random stuff out here early in the season and not out of desperation in the postseason.
You’re totally right that having home court doesn’t guarantee anything but I’d still rather have it. Usually teams do play better at home than on the road. How many games are you willing to lose to check this stuff out?