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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4141 » by Twinkie defense » Tue Oct 28, 2025 10:03 pm

AirP. wrote:He could have played through his mistakes had he played how Kerr wanted him to play. When you don't play how the coach wants you to play, the coach will pull you on the first mistake you make.

Yep. This is why Podz gets a long leash - he plays the right way.

Steph and Draymond have also had long leashes over the years. Jordan Poole, not so much.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4142 » by marthafokker » Tue Oct 28, 2025 10:10 pm

Melton might get 20 minutes and no b2b. So the kids will have some playing time. Just hope Kerr will not put GP2 in front of the 3 kids. Maybe not even Richard.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4143 » by vvoland » Tue Oct 28, 2025 10:16 pm

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AirP. wrote:He could have played through his mistakes had he played how Kerr wanted him to play. When you don't play how the coach wants you to play, the coach will pull you on the first mistake you make.

Yep. This is why Podz gets a long leash - he plays the right way.

Steph and Draymond have also had long leashes over the years. Jordan Poole, not so much.



Bad example. In 22-23 despite openly hating Dray (understandably), ignoring Steph most of the season (unforgiveable), including publicly (doubly so), and doing everything he could to sabotage the season when we were defending mfing champions, Jordan Poole saw nary a decrease! Nary a decrease, I say! Stayed at 30 mpgs and actually got more shots than the year prior when he was 50/40/90 in the playoffs.

Podz and JP got a longer leash not because they 'play the right way.' JP certainly does not. It's because they do the things Kerr really values. In JP's case, it was shot creation, ball handling, and passing. Even as his TOs skyrockets, shooting cratered, and passing disappeared, Kerr continued to play him. Despite the complete disappearing act on defense and, oftentimes, an blatant refusal to run back on d as he would argue with the refs over some phantom foul he wanted.

Same with Podz. He rebounds, keeps the ball moving, and attacks on the weak side. Oh, and takes charges. All faves of Steve Kerr. As a result, the times where he is just lost, for weeks on end, not able to contribute, at all, on either end, Kerr just chalks up to "podz needs to be better. We all know he's a great player, just needs to relax and make the simple play" with no change to his minutes.

If MM and JK got that kind of love from year 1, i think they'd be in a different place. Probably not that much sooner, but last year? Quite possibly.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4144 » by Onus » Tue Oct 28, 2025 11:10 pm

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AirP. wrote:He could have played through his mistakes had he played how Kerr wanted him to play. When you don't play how the coach wants you to play, the coach will pull you on the first mistake you make.

Yep. This is why Podz gets a long leash - he plays the right way.

Steph and Draymond have also had long leashes over the years. Jordan Poole, not so much.



Bad example. In 22-23 despite openly hating Dray (understandably), ignoring Steph most of the season (unforgiveable), including publicly (doubly so), and doing everything he could to sabotage the season when we were defending mfing champions, Jordan Poole saw nary a decrease! Nary a decrease, I say! Stayed at 30 mpgs and actually got more shots than the year prior when he was 50/40/90 in the playoffs.

Podz and JP got a longer leash not because they 'play the right way.' JP certainly does not. It's because they do the things Kerr really values. In JP's case, it was shot creation, ball handling, and passing. Even as his TOs skyrockets, shooting cratered, and passing disappeared, Kerr continued to play him. Despite the complete disappearing act on defense and, oftentimes, an blatant refusal to run back on d as he would argue with the refs over some phantom foul he wanted.

Same with Podz. He rebounds, keeps the ball moving, and attacks on the weak side. Oh, and takes charges. All faves of Steve Kerr. As a result, the times where he is just lost, for weeks on end, not able to contribute, at all, on either end, Kerr just chalks up to "podz needs to be better. We all know he's a great player, just needs to relax and make the simple play" with no change to his minutes.

If MM and JK got that kind of love from year 1, i think they'd be in a different place. Probably not that much sooner, but last year? Quite possibly.

Poole actually had a really short leash his first 2 years. We had Damion Lee playing minutes over him. Hell even the championship year we started out with a great record and then Poole got benched for Klay. Poole was playing like 15 mpg in the finals in his break out year. Poole only got a long leash once he got his contract and Kerr was likely trying to placate him since he was already checked out since he got assaulted. Poole actually worked and earned his role and then sabotaged the team after.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4145 » by DB23 » Wed Oct 29, 2025 12:25 pm

As an outspoken kuminga critic, happy to say he’s playing great and night and day from past years.

Even though today was tough, it’s his activity on the boards and moving the rock that just looks like a different player.

Hope he can still improve more on defense and keep in the right direction shooting 3s.

Hopefully he can keep it going
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4147 » by whatisacenter » Thu Oct 30, 2025 10:06 pm

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Did Dray say anything of note?

I can’t bring myself to listen to him or his podcast.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4148 » by AirP. » Fri Oct 31, 2025 12:02 am

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Did Dray say anything of note?

I can’t bring myself to listen to him or his podcast.


Some of it is about Kerr trying to figure out how to connect with Kuminga since previous ways he's done that hadn't worked with Kuminga like it did with Curry, Thompson and so on...

I had Grok summarize it...
Green emphasizes that Kerr's coaching style has had to adapt significantly due to Kuminga's unique athleticism and skill set, which differ from players like Steph Curry and Klay Thompson.

He notes that the initial perception of a smooth coach-player relationship was misleading, describing it as "complete bull."

Green highlights Kerr's efforts to bridge the gap with Kuminga, acknowledging the time and adjustment required for both to understand each other.
He praises Kerr's commitment to evolving his coaching philosophies, particularly in offense and defense, to better suit Kuminga's style.

The discussion is set against the backdrop of Kuminga's recent strong performance and the Warriors' focus on winning another title in the Stephen Curry era, as reported by various sources.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4149 » by whatisacenter » Fri Oct 31, 2025 12:06 am

AirP. wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:
AirP. wrote:
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Did Dray say anything of note?

I can’t bring myself to listen to him or his podcast.


Some of it is about Kerr trying to figure out how to connect with Kuminga since previous ways he's done that hadn't worked.

I had Grok summarize it...
Green emphasizes that Kerr's coaching style has had to adapt significantly due to Kuminga's unique athleticism and skill set, which differ from players like Steph Curry and Klay Thompson.

He notes that the initial perception of a smooth coach-player relationship was misleading, describing it as "complete bull."

Green highlights Kerr's efforts to bridge the gap with Kuminga, acknowledging the time and adjustment required for both to understand each other.
He praises Kerr's commitment to evolving his coaching philosophies, particularly in offense and defense, to better suit Kuminga's style.

The discussion is set against the backdrop of Kuminga's recent strong performance and the Warriors' focus on winning another title in the Stephen Curry era, as reported by various sources.


Glad I didn't listen... :lol:
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4150 » by Twinkie defense » Sat Nov 1, 2025 5:40 am

You guys didn't like Josh Giddey's game :sad:

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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4151 » by cpower » Sat Nov 8, 2025 8:03 pm

this is the Lose Lose situation we are getting now...Kuminga had the hot start but he is going back to his old self. Kerr has no other options but pulling him from starting lineup and team will start winning again .. Kuminga lost the last bit of interest and value..267 career games played i wonder why he has not turned a corner yet..
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Post#4152 » by watch1958 » Sat Nov 8, 2025 9:59 pm

At least he looked great in all those summer videos his agent was pumping out!
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4153 » by DAWill1128 » Sat Nov 8, 2025 10:46 pm

Twinkie defense wrote:You guys didn't like Josh Giddey's game :sad:

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OKC openly stated at the beginning of that offseason they were gonna move Giddey because they saw him as the 4th best young guy behind SGA, Williams, and Chet. They could only afford to give three of them big contracts so Giddey got shown the door. I thought they should've moved Podz rookie contract for Giddeys expiring and us throwing in picks. If we were gonna play Podz so many minutes at guard I thought it made sense to get the bigger more talented one in Giddey. Giddey is not a perfect player but he definitely has the size, ball handling, and floor vision to of carried the older guys through the regular season.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4154 » by Twinkie defense » Sun Nov 9, 2025 4:35 am

cpower wrote:this is the Lose Lose situation we are getting now...Kuminga had the hot start but he is going back to his old self. Kerr has no other options but pulling him from starting lineup and team will start winning again .. Kuminga lost the last bit of interest and value..267 career games played i wonder why he has not turned a corner yet..

Definitely Kuminga has fallen off since his start. He wants to be out there every night playing a big role, but it's not easy when you gotta carry that weight day in and day out.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4155 » by EvanZ » Yesterday 7:44 pm

Brutal. We can't even get Kuminga on this list. Of course, all my guys are on there including Grimes, Okogie, Duren, and Harry B, who I suggested we trade JK for.

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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4156 » by TB » Yesterday 8:36 pm

Monk and Ellis for Kuminga and Podz seems like a possibility
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Post#4157 » by marthafokker » Yesterday 10:46 pm

TB wrote:Monk and Ellis for Kuminga and Podz seems like a possibility


We be lucky to get Carter + Saric and salary matching.... and according to some Dubs fans, that might be an upgrade.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4158 » by Onus » Yesterday 11:46 pm

TB wrote:Monk and Ellis for Kuminga and Podz seems like a possibility

That's not a terrible return. I'd prefer to get a bigger body so that we have someone other than Dray to matchup against the bigger 4s in the league but it's not terrible. But I don't think there's any way Lacob signs off on that.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4159 » by Twinkie defense » Today 4:16 am

TB wrote:Monk and Ellis for Kuminga and Podz seems like a possibility

I would rather just not pickup Kuminga's option next season.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#4160 » by Twinkie defense » Today 4:19 am

Kuminga has been terrible. He's not gonna get a contract extension like this.

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