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Post#1221 » by Double Helix » Sat Nov 1, 2025 2:18 pm

Home field advantage isn’t really a thing that seems to matter in the World Series to the same extent as some other sports.

In other sports I truly feel the crowd can influence calls and swing momentum and rattle free throw shooters or goalies but in MLB it doesn’t seem to matter as much.
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Post#1222 » by Mehar » Sat Nov 1, 2025 2:28 pm

M3tro wrote:That "lodged ball" in the 9th is going to be a curse if the Jays don't win it.

That **** was playable.

I think Ernie's at bat is up there also. He should not have been hacking at a high first pitch nowhere near the Strike Zone in that situation, with Glasnow just entering the game. Just a terrible judgment from Clement in that situation.
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Post#1223 » by bluerap23 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 2:28 pm

Double Helix wrote:Home field advantage isn’t really a thing that seems to matter in the World Series to the same extent as some other sports.

In other sports I truly feel the crowd can influence calls and swing momentum and rattle free throw shooters or goalies but in MLB it doesn’t seem to matter as much.


Definitely not a huge factor when you are up against the Dodgers. They are a very experienced team that have been here before.
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Post#1224 » by bluerap23 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 2:31 pm

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RalphWiggum wrote:Are you implying we shouldn't have played Barger?


No. I'm implying Gimenez shouldn't have hit with runners on multiple times. I'm implying Varsho shouldn't have batted 5th.

We lost because we let scrubs bat in high leverage situations. 1 run on 8 hits is on the manager.


Gimmy has been money with RISP. Ty France, Schneider were options, viable though?

only thing I would have changed from last night's lineup was - Varsho and Barger should have switched places based on everything we've seen so far in the playoffs. Varsho killed momentum 2x in the game. GIDP and strikeout in key moments.

we don't know what the results would be (if we switched up Barger and Varsho in the lineup) but we can all imagine it might have been better then than the results in the bottom of the 8th and 9th, I suppose


Giminez is hitting of 400 with RISP this series. Almost had a hit there too. Just a base running **** up by a rookie. We got game 7
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Post#1225 » by Mehar » Sat Nov 1, 2025 2:32 pm

Boardbreaker wrote:For the love of god please move varsho down in the order

Dodgers moved up Will Smith and moved Betts to 4, and that helped them win Game 6. Not sure why Schneider and the front office is so allergic to moving Varsho down.

He is a terrible Number 5 hitter, as seen in the Seattle Series and this one with how many men he has left on base. I would have him hitting 8th, but at the minimum have him switch with Barger (so Varsho can hit 7th).
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Post#1226 » by Michael Bradley » Sat Nov 1, 2025 2:33 pm

RalphWiggum wrote:I feel like there's no way we recover from a loss like last night even though I also think we were clearly the better team and we probably are going to get multiple innings against their trash pen.

Someone please talk me off the bridge because I can't ever remember feeling this "sports" bad.


The 18 inning loss was much worse, complete with worse base running blunders (Bichette getting picked off due to bad called strike) and 8-9 innings of having a AAA lineup hitting against a weak Dodgers bullpen and getting nothing out of it. They came back to win the next 2.

I wouldn't bet on the Jays winning Game 7 based on the pitching matchups, but it's baseball. On paper means nothing. Just go out there and win a game. I don't think last night will demoralize them or anything. They've beaten Ohtani and Snell in this series (3 times) and those two will probably get the bulk of the innings tonight. It can be done.
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Post#1227 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Nov 1, 2025 2:44 pm

RalphWiggum wrote:I feel like there's no way we recover from a loss like last night even though I also think we were clearly the better team and we probably are going to get multiple innings against their trash pen.

Someone please talk me off the bridge because I can't ever remember feeling this "sports" bad.

I don’t think we are gonna see a single member of their actual bullpen today btw (outside of maybe a LHP for Barger/Varsho)

That probably won’t make you feel better but we have hit all of their SPs outside of Yoshi and are fully capable of doing it again
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Post#1228 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Nov 1, 2025 2:50 pm

mathgeek wrote:The loss doesn't come down to Bargers mistake. Without his hit you don't advance runners. But man i sure would have loved to see Springer with a chance to walk off in a world series like Joe Carter. Anyways such is sports and no one is perfect. The game loss still comes down to our top of line up not getting anything significant against Yamamoto. Tomorrows a new game and all these need to be forgotten.

Springer would have been walked anyway if there was 2 outs and 2 on

People have talked a lot about wanting to change the lineup. While I don’t think they’ll do that, it would probably make sense to move Lukes down. I want Vlad getting the extra AB there, not a guy who we may be looking to replace this offseason.
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Post#1229 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Nov 1, 2025 2:53 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:
RalphWiggum wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
Barger is a low IQ player. This loss is more on Schneider's lineup management.
Are you implying we shouldn't have played Barger?


No. I'm implying Gimenez shouldn't have hit with runners on multiple times. I'm implying Varsho shouldn't have batted 5th.

We lost because we let scrubs bat in high leverage situations. 1 run on 8 hits is on the manager.

And yet if Varsho’s 100 mph shot finds a hole, he’s a hero. I’m more concerned about Lukes continuing to bat 2 myself. He’s been a league average hitter all season and is a huge breather between Springer and Vlad.
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Post#1230 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Nov 1, 2025 2:55 pm

Double Helix wrote:Home field advantage isn’t really a thing that seems to matter in the World Series to the same extent as some other sports.

In other sports I truly feel the crowd can influence calls and swing momentum and rattle free throw shooters or goalies but in MLB it doesn’t seem to matter as much.

Sasaki seemed rattled to me, the guy was leaving his splitter up all over the place.

Bo simply missed a sitter in the 8th and Varsho unfortunately hit a rocket right at the 2B on the next floating split.
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Post#1231 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Nov 1, 2025 2:57 pm

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M3tro wrote:That "lodged ball" in the 9th is going to be a curse if the Jays don't win it.

That **** was playable.

I think Ernie's at bat is up there also. He should not have been hacking at a high first pitch nowhere near the Strike Zone in that situation, with Glasnow just entering the game. Just a terrible judgment from Clement in that situation.

Clement’s entire approach is hacking, often on first pitch

It’s not a particularly good approach and his success is not sustainable but it’s how we got here, he’s not gonna change it up now
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Post#1232 » by JCP11 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 3:09 pm

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Mehar wrote:
M3tro wrote:That "lodged ball" in the 9th is going to be a curse if the Jays don't win it.

That **** was playable.

I think Ernie's at bat is up there also. He should not have been hacking at a high first pitch nowhere near the Strike Zone in that situation, with Glasnow just entering the game. Just a terrible judgment from Clement in that situation.

Clement’s entire approach is hacking, often on first pitch

It’s not a particularly good approach and his success is not sustainable but it’s how we got here, he’s not gonna change it up now

His approach is more like hacking at everything lol
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Post#1233 » by HangTime » Sat Nov 1, 2025 3:11 pm

I'm surprised we didn't try bunting, or at least faking a bunt.
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Post#1234 » by JN » Sat Nov 1, 2025 3:21 pm

Sasaki last night reminded me of Byung Hun Kim (with Arizona in 2000 World Series)

A young rookie coming to MLB from pro ball in Asia. They had done well in regular season and post season before the World Series. And the World Series moment just appeared to get to them closing games.

He threw a lot of pitches last night.
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Post#1235 » by Madvillainy2004 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 3:25 pm

Double Helix wrote:I slept maybe even worse than I did the 18 inning game. Partially from Halloween candy. Partially from other substances that keep me up.

Mind just anxious and restless all night. Every time I’d relax and drift off briefly my subconscious would go back to game 7 and keep me awake.

Feel like a zombie this morning and have things to do.

Elite pitching always wins in the end. Our run was inspired but we just don’t have the arms to out throw these guys over 9 innings today and that’s what hurts most.

If our bats aren’t absolutely on fire we’re done.


Tbf we didnt swing terribly all out hits just came at bad times then the best RISP team almost year decided to choke with 2nd + 3rd no out lmao
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Post#1236 » by Madvillainy2004 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 3:38 pm

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Raps in 4 wrote:
RalphWiggum wrote:Are you implying we shouldn't have played Barger?


No. I'm implying Gimenez shouldn't have hit with runners on multiple times. I'm implying Varsho shouldn't have batted 5th.

We lost because we let scrubs bat in high leverage situations. 1 run on 8 hits is on the manager.

And yet if Varsho’s 100 mph shot finds a hole, he’s a hero. I’m more concerned about Lukes continuing to bat 2 myself. He’s been a league average hitter all season and is a huge breather between Springer and Vlad.


Glasnow didnt look like he wanted to be on the mound at all lmao but we didnt really get to see what his stuff or control looked like cause Barger/Gimenez/Clement all choked.
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Post#1237 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Nov 1, 2025 3:49 pm

JN wrote:Sasaki last night reminded me of Byung Hun Kim (with Arizona in 2000 World Series)

A young rookie coming to MLB from pro ball in Asia. They had done well in regular season and post season before the World Series. And the World Series moment just appeared to get to them closing games.

He threw a lot of pitches last night.

They won’t go to him again in the same spot so we missed our chance there

Yamamoto is closing tonight’s game if they get that lead
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Post#1238 » by JN » Sat Nov 1, 2025 3:59 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
JN wrote:Sasaki last night reminded me of Byung Hun Kim (with Arizona in 2000 World Series)

A young rookie coming to MLB from pro ball in Asia. They had done well in regular season and post season before the World Series. And the World Series moment just appeared to get to them closing games.

He threw a lot of pitches last night.

They won’t go to him again in the same spot so we missed our chance there

Yamamoto is closing tonight’s game if they get that lead


No rest days? Never say never in a game 7, I just don't see it though. I see Snell as the more likely candidate to close.

My guess is they go with Ohtani 3-5 innings, Glasnow since he didn't pitch much last night, reliever for an inning or two if needed, then Snell to close.
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Post#1239 » by Madvillainy2004 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 4:05 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:
mathgeek wrote:The loss doesn't come down to Bargers mistake. Without his hit you don't advance runners. But man i sure would have loved to see Springer with a chance to walk off in a world series like Joe Carter. Anyways such is sports and no one is perfect. The game loss still comes down to our top of line up not getting anything significant against Yamamoto. Tomorrows a new game and all these need to be forgotten.

Springer would have been walked anyway if there was 2 outs and 2 on

People have talked a lot about wanting to change the lineup. While I don’t think they’ll do that, it would probably make sense to move Lukes down. I want Vlad getting the extra AB there, not a guy who we may be looking to replace this offseason.


I think doing a top 4 of

Springer
Vlad
Barger
Bo

Makes the most sense lineup construction wise, whens the last time Lukes hit a HR the Friday night Tampa game? Lukes should be in Bargers spot. Maybe you could move Varsho down to 6th? But I doubt it. Ernie could take Kirks spot i guess since hes banged up.
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Post#1240 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Nov 1, 2025 4:35 pm

JN wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
JN wrote:Sasaki last night reminded me of Byung Hun Kim (with Arizona in 2000 World Series)

A young rookie coming to MLB from pro ball in Asia. They had done well in regular season and post season before the World Series. And the World Series moment just appeared to get to them closing games.

He threw a lot of pitches last night.

They won’t go to him again in the same spot so we missed our chance there

Yamamoto is closing tonight’s game if they get that lead


No rest days? Never say never in a game 7, I just don't see it though. I see Snell as the more likely candidate to close.

My guess is they go with Ohtani 3-5 innings, Glasnow since he didn't pitch much last night, reliever for an inning or two if needed, then Snell to close.

Yamamoto could have easily gone 120 pitches yesterday when they pulled him. He had another inning or two in him for sure. He's in the cards tonight if they have a lead, mark my words.
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