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Post#481 » by Archx » Sat Nov 1, 2025 7:28 pm

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Mr B wrote:What about Dillon Brooks? He’s a solid defender. He’s scheduled to make $21M this season and $19M next season. The Suns might have some interest in AD however I don’t think Nico would trade him for anything less than what he considers a superstar player in return.
Would the Suns be willing to trade Brooks for Caleb and Naji? Would the Mavs have to include a pick? Is Brooks worth that much?


Keep in mind this team is insanely desperate for a good playmaker... So i would assume Mavs would look for someone in that ballpark. But then again, it's Nico so you never know what he'll come up. No one thought he would trade basically the best playmaking forward since Lebron who was perfect for this team.


If you had to guess, everything from the FO says they don't want a ball dominant PG. Kyrie is perfect in that role. IMO, any big move would be for a big defensive stud SG who is combo enough to get us through Kyrie's absence and pairs well with him when Kyrie returns. My hope of all hopes, that'd be D.Daniels.


Well Kidd himself said they have no proper PG on the team so they're improvising. Kyrie is a combo guard, always has been. A true playmaker like Haliburtion or even Trae would do wonders for this team. But you won't get them anyway. I do agree though, Kyrie would already be a huge upgrade on that spot.
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Post#482 » by Mr B » Sat Nov 1, 2025 7:28 pm

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Yeah unfortunately MEM is not trading for AD with JJJ on the team already. Plus, what do you do with Kyrie? It's almost the same player with defensive struggles, can't play them both.
If MEM trades Ja, i'm pretty sure they'll want a PG in return or something similar, a star combo guard and a ton of picks. Probably perfect trade for them would be with ATL for Trae.

What about Dillon Brooks? He’s a solid defender. He’s scheduled to make $21M this season and $19M next season. The Suns might have some interest in AD however I don’t think Nico would trade him for anything less than what he considers a superstar player in return.

Would the Suns be willing to trade Brooks for Caleb and Naji? Would the Mavs have to include a pick? Is Brooks worth that much?


Keep in mind this team is insanely desperate for a good playmaker... So i would assume Mavs would look for someone in that ballpark. But then again, it's Nico so you never know what he'll come up. No one thought he would trade basically the best playmaking forward since Lebron who was perfect for this team.

Malik Monk could probably fill that role temporarily but I wouldn’t think he’s very good defensively.
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Post#483 » by 41Dirk41 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 7:36 pm

Kidd is a very bad offensive coach so no real PG on the court is a disaster for his teams.

And then we have post Doncic trade Mavs. It was pretty clear from the beginning.
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Post#484 » by Archx » Sat Nov 1, 2025 7:53 pm

Holy **** i didn't even realize AD's contract for next 3 seasons is 54M, 58M and 64M (PO). :o

Yeah no one is taking that on to their books. Unless maybe they can convince LAC since they're collecting old players apparently.
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Post#485 » by Bob8 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 8:03 pm

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Mr B wrote:What about Dillon Brooks? He’s a solid defender. He’s scheduled to make $21M this season and $19M next season. The Suns might have some interest in AD however I don’t think Nico would trade him for anything less than what he considers a superstar player in return.

Would the Suns be willing to trade Brooks for Caleb and Naji? Would the Mavs have to include a pick? Is Brooks worth that much?


Keep in mind this team is insanely desperate for a good playmaker... So i would assume Mavs would look for someone in that ballpark. But then again, it's Nico so you never know what he'll come up. No one thought he would trade basically the best playmaking forward since Lebron who was perfect for this team.

Malik Monk could probably fill that role temporarily but I wouldn’t think he’s very good defensively.


Forget about D for the minute. Mavs need capable Pg. Look at what Giddey is doing for the Bulls. **** D. Whoever watches Nba can see how offensive side is winning games. Sure you need decent D, but foremost you need offense. There's no way that average offensive team can win title in Nba, but you can win a title with average D.
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Post#486 » by Mr B » Sat Nov 1, 2025 8:53 pm

Archx wrote:Holy **** i didn't even realize AD's contract for next 3 seasons is 54M, 58M and 64M (PO). :o

Yeah no one is taking that on to their books. Unless maybe they can convince LAC since they're collecting old players apparently.

Yea when it comes to trading AD getting a team to take on his salary is going to be the most difficult part. In theory Ja Morant would the ideal trade for AD but Memphis doesn’t need AD with JJJ already on the roster. Unless their GM is dumb enough to think AD and JJJ could fit together.
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Post#487 » by Bob8 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 8:56 pm

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Archx wrote:Holy **** i didn't even realize AD's contract for next 3 seasons is 54M, 58M and 64M (PO). :o

Yeah no one is taking that on to their books. Unless maybe they can convince LAC since they're collecting old players apparently.

Yea when it comes to trading AD getting a team to take on his salary is going to be the most difficult part. In theory Ja Morant would the ideal trade for AD but Memphis doesn’t need AD with JJJ already on the roster. Unless their GM is dumb enough to think AD and JJJ could fit together.


Trading no culture Luka for a Gunslinger Ja would be something. :lol:
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Post#488 » by 41Dirk41 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 8:59 pm

Mr B wrote:
Archx wrote:Holy **** i didn't even realize AD's contract for next 3 seasons is 54M, 58M and 64M (PO). :o

Yeah no one is taking that on to their books. Unless maybe they can convince LAC since they're collecting old players apparently.

Yea when it comes to trading AD getting a team to take on his salary is going to be the most difficult part. In theory Ja Morant would the ideal trade for AD but Memphis doesn’t need AD with JJJ already on the roster. Unless their GM is dumb enough to think AD and JJJ could fit together.


On paper street clothes-JJJ fit better than Street clothes-Lively/Gafford. A lot better.

Maybe with a Silver intervention it can be done... Who know.
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Post#489 » by Mr B » Sat Nov 1, 2025 9:03 pm

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Keep in mind this team is insanely desperate for a good playmaker... So i would assume Mavs would look for someone in that ballpark. But then again, it's Nico so you never know what he'll come up. No one thought he would trade basically the best playmaking forward since Lebron who was perfect for this team.

Malik Monk could probably fill that role temporarily but I wouldn’t think he’s very good defensively.


Forget about D for the minute. Mavs need capable Pg. Look at what Giddey is doing for the Bulls. **** D. Whoever watches Nba can see how offensive side is winning games. Sure you need decent D, but foremost you need offense. There's no way that average offensive team can win title in Nba, but you can win a title with average D.

I’m also thinking that with a healthy Lively and Gafford (not to mention Coop and PJ) Monks lack of defense may not be that big of a deal.
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Post#490 » by Bob8 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 9:14 pm

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Mr B wrote:Malik Monk could probably fill that role temporarily but I wouldn’t think he’s very good defensively.


Forget about D for the minute. Mavs need capable Pg. Look at what Giddey is doing for the Bulls. **** D. Whoever watches Nba can see how offensive side is winning games. Sure you need decent D, but foremost you need offense. There's no way that average offensive team can win title in Nba, but you can win a title with average D.

I’m also thinking that with a healthy Lively and Gafford (not to mention Coop and PJ) Monks lack of defense may not be that big of a deal.


You're missing the main problem, he's not a Pg and he's not especially good shooter either. He will be completely useless when Kyrie is back.

What Nico and some others can't understand that scoring Pg or someone unique as Jokic or Wemby is the easiest way to win title not bunch of mediocre players, who can defend. Lively, Gafford, PJ, Coop... need someone to create for them and himself. Giddey, Trae, Fox, Hali... are all much better fit for Mavs than any defensive player.
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Post#491 » by Mr B » Sat Nov 1, 2025 9:25 pm

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Forget about D for the minute. Mavs need capable Pg. Look at what Giddey is doing for the Bulls. **** D. Whoever watches Nba can see how offensive side is winning games. Sure you need decent D, but foremost you need offense. There's no way that average offensive team can win title in Nba, but you can win a title with average D.

I’m also thinking that with a healthy Lively and Gafford (not to mention Coop and PJ) Monks lack of defense may not be that big of a deal.


You're missing the main problem, he's not a Pg and he's not especially good shooter either. He will be completely useless when Kyrie is back.

What Nico and some others can't understand that scoring Pg or someone unique as Jokic or Wemby is the easiest way to win title not bunch of mediocre players, who can defend. Lively, Gafford, PJ, Coop... need someone to create for them and himself. Giddey, Trae, Fox, Hali... are all much better fit for Mavs than any defensive player.

Right but you’re not getting Wemby or Jokic. So what do you do? You’re not just going to give up and fold the season.
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Post#492 » by Bob8 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 9:32 pm

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Mr B wrote:I’m also thinking that with a healthy Lively and Gafford (not to mention Coop and PJ) Monks lack of defense may not be that big of a deal.


You're missing the main problem, he's not a Pg and he's not especially good shooter either. He will be completely useless when Kyrie is back.

What Nico and some others can't understand that scoring Pg or someone unique as Jokic or Wemby is the easiest way to win title not bunch of mediocre players, who can defend. Lively, Gafford, PJ, Coop... need someone to create for them and himself. Giddey, Trae, Fox, Hali... are all much better fit for Mavs than any defensive player.

Right but you’re not getting Wemby or Jokic. So what do you do? You’re not just going to give up and fold the season.


Far the best is option to build around Coop. Second best, try to get true Pg, I believe Giddey could have been available this year. Trae and Fox might be available soon. The most likely scenario is Nico dying with his defensive team.
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Post#493 » by 41Dirk41 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 9:37 pm

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You're missing the main problem, he's not a Pg and he's not especially good shooter either. He will be completely useless when Kyrie is back.

What Nico and some others can't understand that scoring Pg or someone unique as Jokic or Wemby is the easiest way to win title not bunch of mediocre players, who can defend. Lively, Gafford, PJ, Coop... need someone to create for them and himself. Giddey, Trae, Fox, Hali... are all much better fit for Mavs than any defensive player.

Right but you’re not getting Wemby or Jokic. So what do you do? You’re not just going to give up and fold the season.


Far the best is option to build around Coop. Second best, try to get true Pg, I believe Giddey could be available this year. Trae and Fox might be available soon. The most likely scenario is Nico dying with his defensive team.


Agree.

Nico can't survive to this season but trade for trae, Fox or Ja could help him to not be killed :lol:

Probably Fox is the easy target.
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Post#494 » by Bob8 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 9:42 pm

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Mr B wrote:Right but you’re not getting Wemby or Jokic. So what do you do? You’re not just going to give up and fold the season.


Far the best is option to build around Coop. Second best, try to get true Pg, I believe Giddey could be available this year. Trae and Fox might be available soon. The most likely scenario is Nico dying with his defensive team.


Agree.

Nico can't survive to this season but trade for trae, Fox or Ja could help him to not be killed :lol:

Probably Fox is the easy target.


It's kinda funny that he could get anyone from that list and 5 FRPs, if he wanted. But he wanted AD. :lol:
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Post#495 » by Mr B » Sat Nov 1, 2025 9:52 pm

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You're missing the main problem, he's not a Pg and he's not especially good shooter either. He will be completely useless when Kyrie is back.

What Nico and some others can't understand that scoring Pg or someone unique as Jokic or Wemby is the easiest way to win title not bunch of mediocre players, who can defend. Lively, Gafford, PJ, Coop... need someone to create for them and himself. Giddey, Trae, Fox, Hali... are all much better fit for Mavs than any defensive player.

Right but you’re not getting Wemby or Jokic. So what do you do? You’re not just going to give up and fold the season.


Far the best is option to build around Coop. Second best, try to get true Pg, I believe Giddey could have been available this year. Trae and Fox might be available soon. The most likely scenario is Nico dying with his defensive team.

Chicago is playing well to start this season. I don’t see them trading Giddey.
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Post#496 » by Bob8 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 9:55 pm

Mr B wrote:
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Mr B wrote:Right but you’re not getting Wemby or Jokic. So what do you do? You’re not just going to give up and fold the season.


Far the best is option to build around Coop. Second best, try to get true Pg, I believe Giddey could have been available this year. Trae and Fox might be available soon. The most likely scenario is Nico dying with his defensive team.

Chicago is playing well to start this season. I don’t see them trading Giddey.


Before this season. Getting Pg should have been the biggest priority for Mavs, apparently not for Nico. He probably believed they can win games scoring 90 points.
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Post#497 » by 41Dirk41 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 9:56 pm

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Far the best is option to build around Coop. Second best, try to get true Pg, I believe Giddey could be available this year. Trae and Fox might be available soon. The most likely scenario is Nico dying with his defensive team.


Agree.

Nico can't survive to this season but trade for trae, Fox or Ja could help him to not be killed :lol:

Probably Fox is the easy target.


It's kinda funny that he could get anyone from that list and 5 FRPs, if he wanted. But he wanted AD. :lol:


Luka to Fakers was the deal... The rest was a bluff.
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Post#498 » by Bob8 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 9:59 pm

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Agree.

Nico can't survive to this season but trade for trae, Fox or Ja could help him to not be killed :lol:

Probably Fox is the easy target.


It's kinda funny that he could get anyone from that list and 5 FRPs, if he wanted. But he wanted AD. :lol:


Luka to Fakers was the deal... The rest was a bluff.


I have a feeling Nico is not only idiot but racist too. That's why Mavs don't have AR, who would have been perfect fit.

But man his **** is bigger every day. Luka is scoring crazy and efficiently, AR is looking like top 10 player in the league on the other hand AD is looking out of shape and bad fit for Mavs.
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Post#499 » by 41Dirk41 » Sat Nov 1, 2025 10:14 pm

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It's kinda funny that he could get anyone from that list and 5 FRPs, if he wanted. But he wanted AD. :lol:


Luka to Fakers was the deal... The rest was a bluff.


I have a feeling Nico is not only idiot but racist too. That's why Mavs don't have AR, who would have been perfect fit.

But man his **** is bigger every day. Luka is scoring crazy and efficiently, AR is looking like top 10 player in the league on the other hand AD is looking out of shape and bad fit for Mavs.


I only knows that he is done as NBA GM forever and i'm still waiting for that day to cheer for the Mavs again like 9 months ago... Harrison killed fanbase soul.

And some guys were happy to unload Doncic. What a joke.
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Post#500 » by Mr B » Sat Nov 1, 2025 11:23 pm

Bob8 wrote:
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Far the best is option to build around Coop. Second best, try to get true Pg, I believe Giddey could have been available this year. Trae and Fox might be available soon. The most likely scenario is Nico dying with his defensive team.

Chicago is playing well to start this season. I don’t see them trading Giddey.


Before this season. Getting Pg should have been the biggest priority for Mavs, apparently not for Nico. He probably believed they can win games scoring 90 points.

I’m not disagreeing with you. PG should have been a priority for them in the off season. They didn’t though and here we are. So going forward trying to figure who they can realistically get in a trade is what we’ve been discussing.

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