World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM

[ItsDanger]

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Hmmmm.

[Coco Costanza]

Hoping this team can upgrade in both CF and LF, over both Lukes and Varsho for 2026. Rogers made plenty of money. Go sign Bellinger to be your everyday Centre Fielder, and acquire another power bat for LF.

I don't see this core getting back here tbh, you just don't recover from a loss like this. It would be one thing if we got swept or lost in 5, quite another to have it in your grasp in the 9th and blow it.

Remember the Texas Rangers in 2011? That was a legit great team that had a similar meltdown in Game 6 in the 9th inning, then meekly went out in Game 7. They regressed and became the Jays punching bag in 15 and 16 before eventually winning it all in 2023 with a completely different team.

There is absolutely no chance we get back here with this core.

Scherzer, Gausman, Bassitt, Berrios, and Springer are all in their mid-30s or older, and a few are free agents. Most of them will decline next year.

Bo is a free agent and likely gone. Clement and Lukes are scrubs who got hot for a few months. They will regress.

This was our last hurrah with this core, like in 2016.

A lot of these guys won't be back, but I don't think it's dire. Just compare it to 1992, after the Blue Jays won the World Series. Davie Winfield, Jimmy Key, David Cone, Manny Lee, Candy Muldanado, Kelly Gruber, Tom Henke, and David Wells all left. They managed to sign more talent the next season, and won.

[DelAbbot]

There is absolutely no chance we get back here with this core.

Scherzer, Gausman, Bassitt, Berrios, and Springer are all in their mid-30s or older, and a few are free agents. Most of them will decline next year.

Bo is a free agent and likely gone. Clement and Lukes are scrubs who got hot for a few months. They will regress.

This was our last hurrah with this core, like in 2016.

Lots of good free agents available
We can spend like the Dodgers... but we won't.

The Dodgers have a top farm system as well.

Yet they do that deferred contract business - Dodgers FO have no shame and MLB needs a lockout because of that

[Public_Enemy101]

Not sure how you could be upset with how the Jays played today. It’s a games of inches and the loss came down to 3 razer close plays that, by the order of cosmos, all went against us.

Jimenez with that belter to left field and an inch from passing by Muncy’s glove.

IKR’s slight hesitation and missing homebase by literally an inch.

Hoffman throwing an inch out of the strike zone so that Rojas doesn’t get that HR.

[PowerPlant1]

Lots are criticizing Schneider in this one.

I thought game 3 was much worse with all those subs to the point of zero offense which in my opinion was where the Jays got most outmanaged. I do however agree with Lukes and Clement and their positions in the order.

Disagree that the Jays were the better team. For all the chances the Jays missed with runners on, so did the Dodgers. Dodgers hit more HRs and they went deep on pitching that hadn't given up that many: Hoffman, Yesavage. Muncy and Smith were tough hitters.

The Bieber decision.... Well, pros and cons. Problem was his proneness to give up HRs. Lauer would have been the ballsy move but who knows if that would have worked.

At the end of the day, Dodgers had Yamamoto who was clearly the best pitcher in this series.

So close but no cigar. Ernie almost hit a winner. The Varsho ground out missed scoring a run by a hair.

As for the Varsho criticism, he did his usual DRS thing and without it, would not have been so close but he folded offensively.

Still, a magnificent season and effort by this team. Could not believe they got this far. Guerrero with that double off of Yamamoto deserves all the credit. What a game!

[Mehar]

Varsho absolutely sucked and his play deserves criticism, but all this should have been mitigated by the manager. If he hit #9 or at least behind Clement, it would have been less frustrating.

Very fair point. This stubborn front office and manager had him hitting over Clement the entire post-season (lol). Absolute disgrace to see that. He should have been hitting 8th or 9th like I mentioned yesterday behind Clement.

[johanliebert]

not likely is my guess.

I think he does. He's said this was the best team he's ever been on, and that was before they won the pennant.

Chris Bosh said how much he loved the city and his teammates before he signed with miami...

He also sat out the final stretch of then season that had playoff implications. Bo returned on one knee.

[DelAbbot]

I don't see this core getting back here tbh, you just don't recover from a loss like this. It would be one thing if we got swept or lost in 5, quite another to have it in your grasp in the 9th and blow it.

Remember the Texas Rangers in 2011? That was a legit great team that had a similar meltdown in Game 6 in the 9th inning, then meekly went out in Game 7. They regressed and became the Jays punching bag in 15 and 16 before eventually winning it all in 2023 with a completely different team.

There is absolutely no chance we get back here with this core.

Scherzer, Gausman, Bassitt, Berrios, and Springer are all in their mid-30s or older, and a few are free agents. Most of them will decline next year.

Bo is a free agent and likely gone. Clement and Lukes are scrubs who got hot for a few months. They will regress.

This was our last hurrah with this core, like in 2016.

A lot of these guys won't be back, but I don't think it's dire. Just compare it to 1992, after the Blue Jays won the World Series. Davie Winfield, Jimmy Key, David Cone, Manny Lee, Candy Muldanado, Kelly Gruber, Tom Henke, and David Wells all left. They managed to sign more talent the next season, and won.

Comparing Ross Atkins to Pat Gillick is like comparing Bobby Webster to Sam Presti

[Raps in 4]

Lots of good free agents available
We can spend like the Dodgers... but we won't.

The Dodgers have a top farm system as well.

Yet they do that deferred contract business - Dodgers FO have no shame and MLB needs a lockout because of that

The Dodgers FO is smart. I wish we had Friedman running the Jays instead of a career loser like Shapiro.

[PushDaRock]

Disagree. We saw what he did in the 3rd inning. Absolutely no reason to take him out of the game at that point after a lead-off single with the lefty-on-lefty matchup and two struggling hitters coming up. Barger had an incredible AB and Kirk stuck in there to take one for the team, but it was already a very steep hill to climb – especially with Yamamoto ready in the pen to take over if Snell couldn't get the job done.

If Bo stays in the game, that 11th inning more than likely plays out entirely different and we are either still playing baseball at this point in the 13th/14th inning or we're celebrating.

It was absolutely the right decision. He couldn't move out there and already cost us a run with his base running in the 2nd inning.

He may have cost us a run in the 2nd, but he gave us three massive runs the very next inning.

I just don't think that's a move you make with a lead-off single in a tie game. If we were trailing and we were going to play some small ball (stolen base to sacrifice bunt to sacrifice fly/RBI groundout) to try to extend the game, it absolutely makes sense. Or if Bo somehow found his way to 2nd in a tie game, you bring in the pinch runner then. Not with Bo at first base and 3 favourable matchups for the Dodgers' pitchers coming up though.

You're trying to win the game. Bo wouldn't have even scored on a double from first base with the way he was moving out there. You can't have a liability like that base running when you only need 1 run.

Barger was also our hottest hitter. Kirk and Varsho should also be capable too. It's not like we had IKF and Straw up.

Also, Bo would have ended up at 2nd base anyways after the Barger walk. So, even you would agree that he should have been out of the game anyways.

[ItsDanger]

Pinch running for Barger in game 3 was the biggest brain cramp of the series.

[brwnman]

Varsho batting 5th in Game 6 was criminal.

Him playing over 5 other OF that are better on this team is why Jays stay losing. One guy… cost them the WS.

[PushDaRock]

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Hmmmm.

Honestly seems like fear from what happened to Barger last game. I would have no doubt it played a part in him playing it super safe like that.

[DelAbbot]

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Hmmmm.

John Schneider made this guy pinch run for Bo?

Complete lack of baseball fundamentals on the part of IKF and John Schneider

[PushDaRock]

Actually crazy that he steps off home plate and then manages to step back on it, probably had no clue he even did that and was just the natural motion of his foot coming back down after extending.

[Natural11]

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Hmmmm.

It's great that he loves Toronto and if we won we would probably never bring him up again, but we lost and every minute he spent on the field instead of Barger at 3B and Davis in OF was wasted opportunity.

[JaysRule25]

Looking back, yea IFK needed to have a bigger lead in the 9th inning on that force play at home. He was closer to the 3B bag than Muncy was lol. Absolutely awful. You have to protect against a lineout, but at least have the same distance from the bag as Muncy.

[Brinbe]

Hoffman letting the number 9 hitter homer off him is something that'll be hard to ever forget. That along with IKF failing to score. We've seen Hoffman do that same thing all season and he did it again at the absolute worst time. No way I'd ever trust him in that spot with only a run to protect. He needs a cushion. And IKF had no business being on a WS contending team in the first place. Just an absolute sht job of base running there that cost us everything. Varsho's meltdown at the plate was also terrible and his defense wasn't enough to compensate for how many times he didn't come through in the past two games in key spots.

Man, it's so funny because you see other fanbase commenting on how bad/heartbreaking that was because they know themselves.

That will be seen as an all time classic by many, and I'd certainly think that too as a neutral, but this will just haunt us, at least for the time being.

I'm sure we'll be back to it again once spring training rolls around but damn, man. We should be celebrating right now.

[PushDaRock]

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Hmmmm.

John Schneider made this guy pinch run for Bo?

Complete lack of baseball fundamentals on the part of IKF and John Schneider

lol I didn't know it was that bad, what was he even thinking? Just playing in fear.

[PushDaRock]

Looking back, yea IFK needed to have a bigger lead in the 9th inning on that force play at home. He was closer to the 3B bag than Muncy was lol. Absolutely awful. You have to protect against a lineout, but at least have the same distance from the bag as Muncy.

I'm living with a lineout there, you need to be aggressive in that situation. The Barger double up last game probably made him extra cautious.