Early Season Trade Questions

[eitanr]

Good to know.

What would qualify as a good long term fit?

Not sure yet.
- I think someone who isn't going to decline soon is important.
- Has a reasonable contract, or a reasonable extension in mind.
- Isn't injured all the time.
- Is actually good

Somehow this has become hard to find.....

The guys I am looking at now are Maxey, Reeves, Garland, or maybe an Indiana guy. And I say "looking at", because they are the ones that I figure might become available, and pass the "immediate no" test. Also need to scout them a bit more, because I don't watch the eastern conference guys very much.

(I was referring to Coby White)

What are thoughts on Immanuel Quickley

[LarsV8]

What are thoughts on Immanuel Quickley

- Probably 5th or 6th best player on a theoretical championship team, when at his best.
- Was a decent player previously, looks decidedly worse lately, more like just a mid level rotation player.
- I have his appropriate salary probably 10-15m, so massively overpaid.
- Has been injury prone.
- Still young, so little risk of aging decline.

All things considered, I have him as one of the worst contracts in the league, and likely needs 2-3 firsts to get rid of.

[NYG]

What are thoughts on Immanuel Quickley

- Probably 5th or 6th best player on a theoretical championship team, when at his best.
- Was a decent player previously, looks decidedly worse lately, more like just a mid level rotation player.
- I have his appropriate salary probably 10-15m, so massively overpaid.
- Has been injury prone.
- Still young, so little risk of aging decline.

All things considered, I have him as one of the worst contracts in the league, and likely needs 2-3 firsts to get rid of.

What about Tate and 2 seconds for Marcus Sasser?

[theBigLip]

I think Max contracts are being viewed differently now w the new CBA. If you can’t carry a team, are you really worth a Max? Booker, Jaylen Brown got them, but probably not worth them. Should Trae get one? It just seems trade values for some of these guys shouldn’t be that high.

If you don’t max them another team will. Think we falsely equate being worth the max means you can carry a team.

Their historically only been like 3 to 5 players a year that can carry a teams vs 32 teams that can offer one.

I don’t agree that another team will just give the max if you don’t. Most teams don’t have that much cap space.

Also, even if teams have the space, is that player going to be worth it? A great example is Trae. Does Atlanta really have to give him a max? And who are the teams that would give him a max in free agency? I bet the list is shorter than you would think.

[tmorgan]

What are thoughts on Immanuel Quickley

- Probably 5th or 6th best player on a theoretical championship team, when at his best.
- Was a decent player previously, looks decidedly worse lately, more like just a mid level rotation player.
- I have his appropriate salary probably 10-15m, so massively overpaid.
- Has been injury prone.
- Still young, so little risk of aging decline.

All things considered, I have him as one of the worst contracts in the league, and likely needs 2-3 firsts to get rid of.

What about Tate and 2 seconds for Marcus Sasser?

If Houston is looking for a real distributor, Sasser is absolutely not the correct target.

If Houston is just looking for someone to defend the POA and make open shots, sure, he’s a cheap solution. His defense is definitely a lot better than Sheppard’s.

[kobe_vs_jordan]

I think Max contracts are being viewed differently now w the new CBA. If you can’t carry a team, are you really worth a Max? Booker, Jaylen Brown got them, but probably not worth them. Should Trae get one? It just seems trade values for some of these guys shouldn’t be that high.

If you don’t max them another team will. Think we falsely equate being worth the max means you can carry a team.

Their historically only been like 3 to 5 players a year that can carry a teams vs 32 teams that can offer one.

I don’t agree that another team will just give the max if you don’t. Most teams don’t have that much cap space.

Also, even if teams have the space, is that player going to be worth it? A great example is Trae. Does Atlanta really have to give him a max? And who are the teams that would give him a max in free agency? I bet the list is shorter than you would think.

I mean there more than one path for Trae young getting a max.

Plenty teams would trade for him to get his bird rights.

Now if you’re arguing hawks can refuse to trade him to reduce his market then sure

[jayjaysee]

Trying to think of a stopgap for Atlanta? Some tax space, can even go over the tax and then drop back under later..

Or do they just try out Keaton behind Dyson/NAW?

[Godaddycurse]

I bet the list is shorter than you would think.

Utah has a truck load of capspace and no real PGs. Lauri and Kessler will look deadly with Traes passing. Defense is another story but they gotta spend somehow

[theBigLip]

I bet the list is shorter than you would think.

Utah has a truck load of capspace and no real PGs. Lauri and Kessler will look deadly with Traes passing. Defense is another story but they gotta spend somehow

Utah “could” for sure. But it is a commitment, and seems like a “win now” move for Utah. Gets them to the playoffs in the West, but not much more, and now they’ve blown their cap space.

I certainly don’t have a crystal ball and know what is going to happen, but Trae is certainly going to be an interesting case to watch.

[gswhoops]

What are thoughts on Immanuel Quickley

- Probably 5th or 6th best player on a theoretical championship team, when at his best.
- Was a decent player previously, looks decidedly worse lately, more like just a mid level rotation player.
- I have his appropriate salary probably 10-15m, so massively overpaid.
- Has been injury prone.
- Still young, so little risk of aging decline.

All things considered, I have him as one of the worst contracts in the league, and likely needs 2-3 firsts to get rid of.

Agreed. He's not a bad player per se, but he's massively overpaid for what he brings to the table. He's an MLE guy making over $30M a year.

[JasonStern]

Jeremie Grant is likely moved after this season due to the Sharpe and Camara extensions. But there's a chance that the "we refuse to pay luxury tax" Blazers can make the money work if they let injury prone Timelord and Thybulle walk. Really need player development from Yang and Rupert. But, the counter-point is if Timelord and Thybulle are DNP/IR 90% of the time, are you really losing anything by letting their contracts expire?

[tcheco]

Jeremie Grant is likely moved after this season due to the Sharpe and Camara extensions. But there's a chance that the "we refuse to pay luxury tax" Blazers can make the money work if they let injury prone Timelord and Thybulle walk. Really need player development from Yang and Rupert. But, the counter-point is if Timelord and Thybulle are DNP/IR 90% of the time, are you really losing anything by letting their contracts expire?

Has timelord ever suited for Portland? 25 games in 2 years, 1 game this year. Crazy

[JRoy]

2 games now.

[Godaddycurse]

What are thoughts on Immanuel Quickley

- Probably 5th or 6th best player on a theoretical championship team, when at his best.
- Was a decent player previously, looks decidedly worse lately, more like just a mid level rotation player.
- I have his appropriate salary probably 10-15m, so massively overpaid.
- Has been injury prone.
- Still young, so little risk of aging decline.

All things considered, I have him as one of the worst contracts in the league, and likely needs 2-3 firsts to get rid of.

Agreed. He's not a bad player per se, but he's massively overpaid for what he brings to the table. He's an MLE guy making over $30M a year.

he's probably a 20-25M player like naz reid. When healthy he produced decently as a starter for Toronto. Off to a slow start this year and hopefully he can turn it around.

[jayjaysee]

So.. KP and the 2026 Mil/NOP pick for Trey?

[Godaddycurse]

So.. KP and the 2026 Mil/NOP pick for Trey?

why? hawks' starting lineup is set w/ daniels/rissacher/johnson on the wings

[jayjaysee]

So.. KP and the 2026 Mil/NOP pick for Trey?

why? hawks' starting lineup is set w/ daniels/rissacher/johnson on the wings

Trey would play 30mpg even when all three of those are healthy?