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World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM

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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2781 » by mathgeek » Sun Nov 2, 2025 1:58 pm

You have to feel good about the season. Coming within inches of beating a team with a $350 million payroll is still an amazing feat. In the end it came down to pitching. Pitching still wins championships no matter how good your batters are.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2782 » by JaysRule25 » Sun Nov 2, 2025 1:59 pm

ChumboChappati wrote:To be honest, the Blue Jays were lucky to come this far. Both Yankees and Marniers were more talented than Blue Jays, so Blue Jays making the World Series was pretty lucky. And then in World Series Dodgers were playing like 50% of their talent and thats why it went to 7 games. If the Dodgers were playing like 80% of their talent then they would have swept the World Series.
Future is also looking bleak for the Blue Jays. Bo is out. They dont have a real ace. The lack of Salary Cap in MLB will continue to hurt them and other small market teams.


Lmao get outta here with that trash take.

The Blue Jays scored more runs than the Dodgers in this series, had more hits and nearly hit .60 points higher. Dodgers hit .200 as a team. They had way more opportunities than the Dodgers did. xBA and pretty much every statcast stat except baserunning favoured the Blue Jays. They were the better team in this series and it wasn't particularly close. Baseball unfortunately has a lot of luck and random elements involved where sometimes the better team doesn't win. This series should've been done in 6 games.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2783 » by PowerPlant1 » Sun Nov 2, 2025 2:00 pm

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PowerPlant1 wrote:I understand Hoffman being given the 4 outs. He had turned it around in the playoffs. He made 1 mistake and I feel bad for him but overall he was great for the Jays in the postseason.

It was clearly a mistake. He got Ohtani out right after Rojas.

Really, no one in the jays BP including Yesavage looked solid. Dominguez almost gave it away the previous inning. The only other guys to consider using were Gausman on no rest, Lauer and maybe to consider Bassitt for one more inning.

Bieber was more of a questionable move for me because of the Dodgers hitting solo HRs and his tendency to give them up in bunches.


No Hoffman was the same as regular season he would have 3 or 4 good outings then give up big dingers


His playoff stats occurred over more than 3-4 outings. You can't just say it was inevitable based on that pattern. Problem is who would you have gone to? Who was the alternative? Bieber, Yesavage gave up HRs. Lauer? Fisher? Maybe Gausman on 0 rest. Dominguez who almost gave up a run previously? It was tense and I didn't really see one Jays pitcher locked in.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2784 » by Reeko » Sun Nov 2, 2025 2:02 pm

Yamamoto won the series. Without him we beat them in 5. Our hitters got to everyone else. I still believe the Blue Jays are the best team in baseball. Even with all that money being spent the Dodgers still had to get lucky to beat the Jays in extra innings.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2785 » by Brinbe » Sun Nov 2, 2025 2:03 pm

The window for contention will still be open even if they aren't nailed down for a WS spot. It's not like they're the Pirates or Marlins or Rockies.

The core isn't exactly ancient and they'll have some reinforcements coming from the minors over the next few years. If Robbers continues to spend (pending whatever happens with the lockout) which they will since the team is a cash cow, then they may well be stronger in future years to come. It's not like Clement, Barger and others are just going away. They're still here in their primes. And they made it to the WS without Bo though it would obviously be tough to see him go.

Of course that doesn't guarantee anything in baseball. They could win a 100+ and get swept out in the ALCS, but that's part of what makes the sport so great.

Each season is a chance to write a new story and I'm sure this group of guys will come into year as motivated as ever to erase this.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2786 » by Reeko » Sun Nov 2, 2025 2:03 pm

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ChumboChappati wrote:To be honest, the Blue Jays were lucky to come this far. Both Yankees and Marniers were more talented than Blue Jays, so Blue Jays making the World Series was pretty lucky. And then in World Series Dodgers were playing like 50% of their talent and thats why it went to 7 games. If the Dodgers were playing like 80% of their talent then they would have swept the World Series.
Future is also looking bleak for the Blue Jays. Bo is out. They dont have a real ace. The lack of Salary Cap in MLB will continue to hurt them and other small market teams.


Lmao get outta here with that trash take.

The Blue Jays scored more runs than the Dodgers in this series, had more hits and nearly hit .60 points higher. Dodgers hit .200 as a team. They had way more opportunities than the Dodgers did. xBA and pretty much every statcast stat except baserunning favoured the Blue Jays. They were the better team in this series and it wasn't particularly close. Baseball unfortunately has a lot of luck and random elements involved where sometimes the better team doesn't win. This series should've been done in 6 games.

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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2787 » by JaysRule25 » Sun Nov 2, 2025 2:04 pm

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PowerPlant1 wrote:I understand Hoffman being given the 4 outs. He had turned it around in the playoffs. He made 1 mistake and I feel bad for him but overall he was great for the Jays in the postseason.

It was clearly a mistake. He got Ohtani out right after Rojas.

Really, no one in the jays BP including Yesavage looked solid. Dominguez almost gave it away the previous inning. The only other guys to consider using were Gausman on no rest, Lauer and maybe to consider Bassitt for one more inning.

Bieber was more of a questionable move for me because of the Dodgers hitting solo HRs and his tendency to give them up in bunches.


No Hoffman was the same as regular season he would have 3 or 4 good outings then give up big dingers


His playoff stats occurred over more than 3-4 outings. You can't just say it was inevitable based on that pattern. Problem is who would you have gone to? Who was the alternative? Bieber, Yesavage gave up HRs. Lauer? Fisher? Maybe Gausman on 0 rest. Dominguez who almost gave up a run previously? It was tense and I didn't really see one Jays pitcher locked in.


First homer Hoffman gave up in 9 innings. He was on a good run. I think people are forgetting how nails he was in the Seattle series and how he shut down Raleigh and the top of the Mariners lineup multiple times.

Like you said. Bassitt, Yesavage, Bieber all gave up runs. Our pen just collectively couldn't hold them. This L isn't just on Hoffman.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2788 » by PowerPlant1 » Sun Nov 2, 2025 2:04 pm

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ChumboChappati wrote:To be honest, the Blue Jays were lucky to come this far. Both Yankees and Marniers were more talented than Blue Jays, so Blue Jays making the World Series was pretty lucky. And then in World Series Dodgers were playing like 50% of their talent and thats why it went to 7 games. If the Dodgers were playing like 80% of their talent then they would have swept the World Series.
Future is also looking bleak for the Blue Jays. Bo is out. They dont have a real ace. The lack of Salary Cap in MLB will continue to hurt them and other small market teams.


Lmao get outta here with that trash take.

The Blue Jays scored more runs than the Dodgers in this series, had more hits and nearly hit .60 points higher. Dodgers hit .200 as a team. They had way more opportunities than the Dodgers did. xBA and pretty much every statcast stat except baserunning favoured the Blue Jays. They were the better team in this series and it wasn't particularly close. Baseball unfortunately has a lot of luck and random elements involved where sometimes the better team doesn't win. This series should've been done in 6 games.


Another factor here is too many Jays pitchers being prone to the long ball. Dodgers won on solo HRs. RP or SP less prone to give them up should be a priority. It explains how the dodgers with 200 avg had just enough offense to win.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2789 » by JaysRule25 » Sun Nov 2, 2025 2:10 pm

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JaysRule15 wrote:
ChumboChappati wrote:To be honest, the Blue Jays were lucky to come this far. Both Yankees and Marniers were more talented than Blue Jays, so Blue Jays making the World Series was pretty lucky. And then in World Series Dodgers were playing like 50% of their talent and thats why it went to 7 games. If the Dodgers were playing like 80% of their talent then they would have swept the World Series.
Future is also looking bleak for the Blue Jays. Bo is out. They dont have a real ace. The lack of Salary Cap in MLB will continue to hurt them and other small market teams.


Lmao get outta here with that trash take.

The Blue Jays scored more runs than the Dodgers in this series, had more hits and nearly hit .60 points higher. Dodgers hit .200 as a team. They had way more opportunities than the Dodgers did. xBA and pretty much every statcast stat except baserunning favoured the Blue Jays. They were the better team in this series and it wasn't particularly close. Baseball unfortunately has a lot of luck and random elements involved where sometimes the better team doesn't win. This series should've been done in 6 games.

The guy is a notorious troll for anything Toronto related.


Must be such a sad and miserable existence. Thanks for the heads up.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2790 » by james vincent » Sun Nov 2, 2025 2:16 pm

Toronto needs some ground ball pitchers who are less prone to the long ball. Otherwise, a memorable season despite the heartbreaking loss. Not sure what the future holds but it feels like one of two things happen: the team comes out seeking revenge and goes on a blazing trail for retribution or they become so demoralized that they become shells of themselves due to that game 7 experience. I believe that it’s the former but it’ll be difficult to surprise teams next year because there will be expectations to produce and let’s be honest here: Joe many of us early this year expected a playoff berth (let alone a World Series championship)? Ironically, I feel that if game 7 were held in LA, then Toronto would be hoisting the trophy instead of the dodgers with either Guerrero or Yesavage being the MVP of the series.
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Post#2791 » by TheDunc » Sun Nov 2, 2025 2:26 pm

Reeko wrote:Yamamoto won the series. Without him we beat them in 5. Our hitters got to everyone else. I still believe the Blue Jays are the best team in baseball. Even with all that money being spent the Dodgers still had to get lucky to beat the Jays in extra innings.


This is it right here, we had two series games that could of easily went the jays way with a bit of luck from baseball gods but it just wasnt meant to be. Jays got a taste of almost winning the world series now i expect them to be back theie next year with some minor impeovements
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Post#2792 » by Hottie McShotty » Sun Nov 2, 2025 2:27 pm

dh_45 wrote:Ikf not getting a better lead, taking yesavage out early, thinking Hoffman could hold a 1 run lead with 4 outs, and maybe taking Bo out late were the most glaring mistakes


IKF not taking a better lead is unforgivable. I don't want to see him on this team again. Third base coach should have said something to him too. Get us some players and staff with higher IQ and who know how to play the game.
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Post#2793 » by bluerap23 » Sun Nov 2, 2025 2:28 pm

Great season. Hoping they can bring back much of this team next year including Bo and Bieber. Just need to upgrade the bullpen. This team with a Chapman added to the bullpen would have won.

If they try to replace Bo with a defensive specialist it will be a different story. Hopefully they learn from the leafs
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Post#2794 » by Madvillainy2004 » Sun Nov 2, 2025 2:40 pm

bluerap23 wrote:Great season. Hoping they can bring back much of this team next year including Bo and Bieber. Just need to upgrade the bullpen. This team with a Chapman added to the bullpen would have won.

If they try to replace Bo with a defensive specialist it will be a different story. Hopefully they learn from the leafs


Bo has to play 2nd base lol but depending on the money difference id go for Kyle Tucker
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2795 » by Madvillainy2004 » Sun Nov 2, 2025 2:40 pm

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dh_45 wrote:Ikf not getting a better lead, taking yesavage out early, thinking Hoffman could hold a 1 run lead with 4 outs, and maybe taking Bo out late were the most glaring mistakes


IKF not taking a better lead is unforgivable. I don't want to see him on this team again. Third base coach should have said something to him too. Get us some players and staff with higher IQ and who know how to play the game.


Sliding feet first into home is beyond stupid like the amount of chances we squandered was unreal
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2796 » by Duffman100 » Sun Nov 2, 2025 2:41 pm

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Lmao get outta here with that trash take.

The Blue Jays scored more runs than the Dodgers in this series, had more hits and nearly hit .60 points higher. Dodgers hit .200 as a team. They had way more opportunities than the Dodgers did. xBA and pretty much every statcast stat except baserunning favoured the Blue Jays. They were the better team in this series and it wasn't particularly close. Baseball unfortunately has a lot of luck and random elements involved where sometimes the better team doesn't win. This series should've been done in 6 games.

The guy is a notorious troll for anything Toronto related.


Must be such a sad and miserable existence. Thanks for the heads up.


A whole bunch of the posters after the game are the same ones that jump on the Raptors after a loss and disappear when they win. Also were absent from this board up until a few weeks ago.
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Post#2797 » by Hottie McShotty » Sun Nov 2, 2025 2:41 pm

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linery88 wrote:IKF what the **** kind of lead was that.We blew a game to a team we should have beaten.They better do something in the offseason to get back here,and win it.


One of the worst base running mistakes in baseball history. If he gets a decent lead + slides head first or Runs through the base we win.


Why is he even sliding man??? It's a force at home. He would be faster if he just ran through. Just a complete braindead decision.


This. Why did he slide??? Running through it would have been faster. Unbelievable braindead decision there by IKF.
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Post#2798 » by PushDaRock » Sun Nov 2, 2025 2:48 pm

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dh_45 wrote:
PowerPlant1 wrote:I understand Hoffman being given the 4 outs. He had turned it around in the playoffs. He made 1 mistake and I feel bad for him but overall he was great for the Jays in the postseason.

It was clearly a mistake. He got Ohtani out right after Rojas.

Really, no one in the jays BP including Yesavage looked solid. Dominguez almost gave it away the previous inning. The only other guys to consider using were Gausman on no rest, Lauer and maybe to consider Bassitt for one more inning.

Bieber was more of a questionable move for me because of the Dodgers hitting solo HRs and his tendency to give them up in bunches.


No Hoffman was the same as regular season he would have 3 or 4 good outings then give up big dingers


His playoff stats occurred over more than 3-4 outings. You can't just say it was inevitable based on that pattern. Problem is who would you have gone to? Who was the alternative? Bieber, Yesavage gave up HRs. Lauer? Fisher? Maybe Gausman on 0 rest. Dominguez who almost gave up a run previously? It was tense and I didn't really see one Jays pitcher locked in.


It's a bunch of revisionist history. Whoever doesn't give up the run or didn't pitch at all was the guy they "should" have gone to.

Hoffman hung a slider to the 9 hitter in the zone, that's way better than walking him with Ohtani on deck. If someone that has no pop hits it out, you're going to live with the results. My only gripe would be the pitch selection, just keep pumping fastballs there. You can't even afford to throw your wipe out slider there because it has to be a strike.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2799 » by Raps in 4 » Sun Nov 2, 2025 2:50 pm

Brinbe wrote:The window for contention will still be open even if they aren't nailed down for a WS spot. It's not like they're the Pirates or Marlins or Rockies.

The core isn't exactly ancient and they'll have some reinforcements coming from the minors over the next few years. If Robbers continues to spend (pending whatever happens with the lockout) which they will since the team is a cash cow, then they may well be stronger in future years to come. It's not like Clement, Barger and others are just going away. They're still here in their primes. And they made it to the WS without Bo though it would obviously be tough to see him go.

Of course that doesn't guarantee anything in baseball. They could win a 100+ and get swept out in the ALCS, but that's part of what makes the sport so great.

Each season is a chance to write a new story and I'm sure this group of guys will come into year as motivated as ever to erase this.


The core is ancient though.

Gausman will be 35
Bassitt will be 37 and on another team
Scherzer will be 42 and retired
Berrios will be 32

Our only under-30 starter is Yesavage. That's a problem.

On the hitting side, Springer will be 37 next year, and he was our best hitter this year. He isn't repeating that output next season. Bo, our third best hitter, will be playing for another team next year. His replacement is the 32 year-old Santander.

This is a team that will be lucky to get a WC spot next year.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2800 » by PushDaRock » Sun Nov 2, 2025 2:51 pm

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JaysRule15 wrote:
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One of the worst base running mistakes in baseball history. If he gets a decent lead + slides head first or Runs through the base we win.


Why is he even sliding man??? It's a force at home. He would be faster if he just ran through. Just a complete braindead decision.


This. Why did he slide??? Running through it would have been faster. Unbelievable braindead decision there by IKF.


If you're going to slide, at least slide head first there. WS on the line and you're next to the bag scared to death of getting doubled off.

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