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World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM

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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2841 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:06 pm

Woke up sad

Still processing everything
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Post#2842 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:08 pm

I don’t think the Jays are in an overly great spot going forward but I also don’t think it’s a bad one either.

This FO, for all its faults, has shown the ability to at least build playoff teams. And this ownership is as committed as any Jays ownership has been in three decades.

Ed needs to continue to boost the payroll to keep this team competitive and my expectation is that they’ll do that. There’s not one reason at all we can’t spend like the Yankees do every year and that can otherwise solve a lot of roster/aging player issues.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2843 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:10 pm

And we need to hope the players fight hard in 2027 to prevent a salary cap from getting put into place. That would cost baseball a season (at least) but we very badly do not want one.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2844 » by Vampirate » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:10 pm

We probably need an ACE pitcher in his prime to get back into the playoffs (could still make it, just talking likely scenarios). So basically we need to get Skubal. If not an ace pitcher, we need an actual closer, we cannot have Hoffman as our closer next year regardless if we make the playoffs or not, he had his chance.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2845 » by DelAbbot » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:11 pm

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Post#2846 » by dafan590 » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:14 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:And we need to hope the players fight hard in 2027 to prevent a salary cap from getting put into place. That would cost baseball a season (at least) but we very badly do not want one.



no, you are wrong here once again
thats why nobody likes you here.

baseball do indeed need a salary cap similiar to the nhl/nba
if we dont, then we have to spend every year just to compete with the yankees and the red sox
you have to keep in mind that we are stuck in the toughest division of baseball.

Just because Rogers spent this year does not mean that they will spend again for the next 2 years because they are known for being cheap.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2847 » by Coco Costanza » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:15 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:Woke up sad

Still processing everything


Same. But I take some comfort in knowing how much heart this team showed, and how everyone in the league, and in sports, recognized how good a team this was. We were expected to be run over, but we stood our ground. I've seen comments about this being one of the greatest World Series ever played, and it's hard to argue against that.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2848 » by DelAbbot » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:16 pm

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bluerap23 wrote:Great season. Hoping they can bring back much of this team next year including Bo and Bieber. Just need to upgrade the bullpen. This team with a Chapman added to the bullpen would have won.

If they try to replace Bo with a defensive specialist it will be a different story. Hopefully they learn from the leafs


Bo has to play 2nd base lol but depending on the money difference id go for Kyle Tucker


This is the time to splash the money around and go after the big fish. It's your best chance to get them when they have evidence that you were right there.



Giving forward / next year, for sure the FO will start Gimenez at one of the two middle infield positions. If they are smart about resource allocation, they would start Clement at the other middle infield position. And also take a chance on Barger at 3B, with Vlad occasionally backup 3B. Then sign some depth at middle infield. It makes little sense to give Bo 30M to play 2B and put Clement at 3B or make him middle infield backup
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2849 » by JCP11 » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:16 pm

I was sad the Jays lost, it was right there but they beat themselves more than the Dodgers beat them in these last two games. However I'm not mad or frustrated, I'm proud of this team and in my 40 years of following sports, as of right now they were my favorite team to follow.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2850 » by brwnman » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:17 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:And we need to hope the players fight hard in 2027 to prevent a salary cap from getting put into place. That would cost baseball a season (at least) but we very badly do not want one.


I don't think you can have a salary cap without a salary floor. I'm not in favour of a salary. Many different ways to build a baseball team, but I think teams will cry parity (and poverty).
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Post#2851 » by LLJ » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:24 pm

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I'm juat mad at this dumb **** organization. Even when we do something right, we don't do it fully right. Like, who the **** plays IKF in the WS? Who the **** has Lukes batting second? Why the **** did it take so long to move Varsho down? Why the **** did we not acquire a cloaer at any point during the season? Why the **** did we not demote Hoffman when it was clear for months that he wasn't an MLB closer?

Shapiro has been an MLB president/GM fpr a quarter of a **** century and he's still ringless. It's obvious why.

Same questions I have in my head. I had a hard time sleeping. Will take me a long time to get over this. I said after Game 6 that if you were serious about winning Game 7- Vlad needed to hit Second. Both Lukes and Varsho should be hitting outside the Top 5. That Clement needed to hit above Varsho. If I and a few others can see these things- why the **** does a guy like Shapiro and his buddy Atkins making millions not see these things?

I am still trying to figure out what value this front office saw in IKF? IKF is a better defender at SS/3rd base, but less so at Second. Why not give Davis Schneider the chance at Second Base, and have Loperfido on the World Series roster as a Pinch Runner who is faster? There is a reason why Shapiro has won Jack. Unfortunately, we are stuck with him for many more years now, along with his buddy Atkins.


You guys are taking this way too hard - I had similar disappointments back in 2015 vs Royals and 2020 Raptors ECF vs Boston. But it's just a game, played by some dudes who wear the name of our city.

It's a beautiful day outside today.


2015 Royals simply outplayed us in most aspects of the game. 2020 we already won in 2019 so the loss stung less.

What we will remember for this Jays team is we were up 4-3 with 2 outs left to win the WS
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2852 » by DelAbbot » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:27 pm

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Brinbe wrote:30 isn't washed. And I thought he had a terrible start and turned it around didn't he? He's still years away though, but Parker was decent at least.

Never said they were contenders but they will be in the mix. Acting as if everything WILL fall apart on Nov 2nd is the stupid part. Just a miserable way to approach sports and fandom.


30 isn't washed, but he's not a .500 hitter. Vladdy isn't going to hit 1.200 to keep this team in the games. You can't say if they will or will not be competitive cause there's a whole offseason to go. But there are major improvements needed. The 'core' isn't good enough because some are FAs and a lot of them are aging. It's asking a lot. I don't have faith in Springer being anything close to what he was. Bo is consistently their second best hitter, so if he's not there, what do the Jays do? Bassit/Scherzer are FAs. Will Berrios bounce back? Can Gausman be effective next year a year older? Just a lot of question marks.


On top of that, the Yankees and Red Sox will both be getting better, and the Orioles and Rays will likely have bounceback seasons. There isn't much to be optimistic about going into next season.

This was a fun ride, but it was very likely a one-off Cinderella run.

I don't think it should take too long to get back into the plauoffs, maybe 2-3 years, but it will require shrewd management, and I'm not sure this FO is up to the task.


I still hate this FO, but this is baseball and Blue Jays definitely have the core to get into the playoffs even with WC and that might be good enough to catch a Cinderella run like this postseason.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2853 » by DelAbbot » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:29 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:I don’t think the Jays are in an overly great spot going forward but I also don’t think it’s a bad one either.

This FO, for all its faults, has shown the ability to at least build playoff teams. And this ownership is as committed as any Jays ownership has been in three decades.

Ed needs to continue to boost the payroll to keep this team competitive and my expectation is that they’ll do that. There’s not one reason at all we can’t spend like the Yankees do every year and that can otherwise solve a lot of roster/aging player issues.


I agree with this. Baseball is not like basketball where you get stuck in the middle. Anything can happen, and our talent level can sneak into the playoffs, and then variability can propel us into WS again in the next decade.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2854 » by DelAbbot » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:29 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:And we need to hope the players fight hard in 2027 to prevent a salary cap from getting put into place. That would cost baseball a season (at least) but we very badly do not want one.


Because we have idiots for FO who are about to be locked in for the next 10 years.

Stupid azz contracts like

Chad Green
Hyun-jin Ryu
Tanner Roark
Santander

will no longer be hidden / patched over by spending more money.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2855 » by ItsDanger » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:29 pm

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Roberto Alomar is still the greatest Blue Jay in my eyes. Do it all player plus clutch. 18 stolen bases in 3 playoffs here. Something this roster could really use.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2856 » by ItsDanger » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:34 pm

Randle McMurphy wrote:And we need to hope the players fight hard in 2027 to prevent a salary cap from getting put into place. That would cost baseball a season (at least) but we very badly do not want one.

Current system won't last. Any cap is easily circumvented especially these days and more international players. Deferrals and draft/int'l signings aspects need to change. Not good when bad teams still have crappy farm systems.

And I don't have easy answers to problem.
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2857 » by DelAbbot » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:36 pm

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Randle McMurphy wrote:And we need to hope the players fight hard in 2027 to prevent a salary cap from getting put into place. That would cost baseball a season (at least) but we very badly do not want one.


I don't think you can have a salary cap without a salary floor. I'm not in favour of a salary. Many different ways to build a baseball team, but I think teams will cry parity (and poverty).


There is already a salary floor as part of the revenue sharing system
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Post#2858 » by Boogie! » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:37 pm

I think I’m done watching sports. What’s the point why get so invested in this **** it’s so stupid
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Re: World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM 

Post#2859 » by DelAbbot » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:37 pm

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Mehar wrote:Same questions I have in my head. I had a hard time sleeping. Will take me a long time to get over this. I said after Game 6 that if you were serious about winning Game 7- Vlad needed to hit Second. Both Lukes and Varsho should be hitting outside the Top 5. That Clement needed to hit above Varsho. If I and a few others can see these things- why the **** does a guy like Shapiro and his buddy Atkins making millions not see these things?

I am still trying to figure out what value this front office saw in IKF? IKF is a better defender at SS/3rd base, but less so at Second. Why not give Davis Schneider the chance at Second Base, and have Loperfido on the World Series roster as a Pinch Runner who is faster? There is a reason why Shapiro has won Jack. Unfortunately, we are stuck with him for many more years now, along with his buddy Atkins.


You guys are taking this way too hard - I had similar disappointments back in 2015 vs Royals and 2020 Raptors ECF vs Boston. But it's just a game, played by some dudes who wear the name of our city.

It's a beautiful day outside today.


2015 Royals simply outplayed us in most aspects of the game. 2020 we already won in 2019 so the loss stung less.

What we will remember for this Jays team is we were up 4-3 with 2 outs left to win the WS


That team should have gone to and win the WS. Royals out BABIP'ed us
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