World Series Game 7, November 1, 2025 - Dodgers @ Blue Jays, 8PM

[LLJ]

I gotta watch a Brandon Ingram led basketball team and Auston Matthews who's washed with a chronic injury lmfao

And just watch Marner win a Stanley Cup with Vegas to rub it in more

[Boogie!]

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Everyone’s mad at Ikf all varsho had to do was hit it to the outfield

[Coco Costanza]

The Blue Jays massively overachieved considering our rotation versus theirs. Offensively we had a modest edge but our guys were super banged up.

Eventually their high priced arms beat our ours. Just like everyone assumed they would before the series began.

The reason it hurts so much is because of how close we were to pulling off a great upset.

This was not Goliath vs Goliath or David versus Goliath. It was pitching and swing and miss home run ball versus small ball excellence and in the end the way most have built winners the past half decade still won out.

Yamamoto is the reason why the dodgers won, any other pitcher in game 6 or in game 7 and the Dodgers lose. it's as simple as that.

Yeah, and that's why he was deservedly the MVP. We were all (justifiably) worried about Ohtani, who was very good in the series, but Yamamoto won them the series. Pitching two days in a row to save the game was amazing.

[Coco Costanza]

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Everyone’s mad at Ikf all varsho had to do was hit it to the outfield

Varsho was brutal. There was a moment where he came to the plate, and his shoulders were slumped, and I was so angry with him. Like, this Jays team had balls. You see Springer damn near killing himself at the plate, but he still impacts the game. Varsho just looked so defeated, and I'll never understand why he was hitting so high up in the lineup this series.

[And1Skip]

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I know IKF is to blame and rightfully so based on his comments afterwards which was what he intended to do - but how about Febles and coaching staff for having the same mindset not knowing Varsho had virtually zero chance hitting to 3rd.

[Madvillainy2004]

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I know IKF is to blame and rightfully so based on his comments afterwards which was what he intended to do - but how about Febles and coaching staff for having the same mindset not knowing Varsho had virtually zero chance hitting to 3rd.

Varsho has hit 4 opposite field line drives in 2500 PAs lmao

[Mehar]

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Hmmmm.

Yeah that cost a run. He was slow to get moving when he did go, as well. Another foot or split second quicker start and he scores

If IKF dives in head first with his hands stretched out- he makes it safely also based on the close ups I saw last night on my Twitter account. Just a bonehead move from a bonehead player, who had no business being on the playoff roster and getting regular at bats in the World Series.

[TheDunc]

Ernie is going to be 30. Nimmala has been... not good after his hot start. Kirk has to prove it another year and with challenges, his framing skills will be less impactful.

Jays aren't the Rockies, but a lot had to go right for them to make the playoffs and I don't think Yankees/Red Sox/Orioles stand pat. Rays are always around.

30 isn't washed. And I thought he had a terrible start and turned it around didn't he? He's still years away though, but Parker was decent at least.

Never said they were contenders but they will be in the mix. Acting as if everything WILL fall apart on Nov 2nd is the stupid part. Just a miserable way to approach sports and fandom.

30 isn't washed, but he's not a .500 hitter. Vladdy isn't going to hit 1.200 to keep this team in the games. You can't say if they will or will not be competitive cause there's a whole offseason to go. But there are major improvements needed. The 'core' isn't good enough because some are FAs and a lot of them are aging. It's asking a lot. I don't have faith in Springer being anything close to what he was. Bo is consistently their second best hitter, so if he's not there, what do the Jays do? Bassit/Scherzer are FAs. Will Berrios bounce back? Can Gausman be effective next year a year older? Just a lot of question marks.

People act like all of our players will suddenly fall apart. Spring training is like 5months away, some older players might need to take a backseat next year but most of them all have another run or two in them albeit in a diminished role. Time for rogers to shell out more money this offseason and add go the group not subtract.

One thing we learned for sure is Vladdy is our core leader and hes built for the playoffs. Keeping Bichette beside him and the emergence of Barger, Yesavage and super utility guy Clement is key. This teams run of dominance is just starting, some minor tweaks and were winning 90+ again next yeaf without a doubt

[Potential]

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[Randle McMurphy]

And we need to hope the players fight hard in 2027 to prevent a salary cap from getting put into place. That would cost baseball a season (at least) but we very badly do not want one.

no, you are wrong here once again
thats why nobody likes you here.

baseball do indeed need a salary cap similiar to the nhl/nba
if we dont, then we have to spend every year just to compete with the yankees and the red sox
you have to keep in mind that we are stuck in the toughest division of baseball.

Just because Rogers spent this year does not mean that they will spend again for the next 2 years because they are known for being cheap.

Literally the only reason the Jays have made the playoffs so frequently in the Shapiro era is because of the lack of a salary cap and because Rogers has invested a ton in winning for a decade now with high payrolls.

So no, you’re completely wrong and/or living 20 years in the past. A level playing field is exactly what this organization does not want considering our huge advantage at ownership level compared to basically every team that isn’t the Mets or Dodgers.

[TheDunc]

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Hmmmm.

Yeah that cost a run. He was slow to get moving when he did go, as well. Another foot or split second quicker start and he scores

If IKF dives in head first with his hands stretched out- he makes it safely also based on the close ups I saw last night on my Twitter account. Just a bonehead move from a bonehead player, who had no business being on the playoff roster and getting regular at bats in the World Series.

He messed up no doubt about it, he should not be apart of this team moving forward after a blunder like that. He had the chance to be a national hero for decades but now he can bd remembered as the guy who lost it all for us

[Randle McMurphy]

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Too bad about the pitching then.

[Randle McMurphy]

Same questions I have in my head. I had a hard time sleeping. Will take me a long time to get over this. I said after Game 6 that if you were serious about winning Game 7- Vlad needed to hit Second. Both Lukes and Varsho should be hitting outside the Top 5. That Clement needed to hit above Varsho. If I and a few others can see these things- why the **** does a guy like Shapiro and his buddy Atkins making millions not see these things?

I am still trying to figure out what value this front office saw in IKF? IKF is a better defender at SS/3rd base, but less so at Second. Why not give Davis Schneider the chance at Second Base, and have Loperfido on the World Series roster as a Pinch Runner who is faster? There is a reason why Shapiro has won Jack. Unfortunately, we are stuck with him for many more years now, along with his buddy Atkins.

You guys are taking this way too hard - I had similar disappointments back in 2015 vs Royals and 2020 Raptors ECF vs Boston. But it's just a game, played by some dudes who wear the name of our city.

It's a beautiful day outside today.

ALCS loss in game 6 to a team that was outplaying us all along?
ECF loss in a game 7 against a more talented team where we would've been down 0-3 if not for a miracle?

Don't downplay people's feelings about a historically cruel loss. We were the better team all through the series and lost on 9000 LOB and plays like their 9 hitter hitting a HR, a play at home plate separated by an inch, and colliding fielders completing a catch. You can say we should've just converted and nitpick strategic minutia in hindsight, but the probability of blanking all those times is far more about luck than execution. We made it that far precisely because of giving ourselves those chances with our hitting ethos, so for it to suddenly be rejected to that extent is an incomprehensible injustice.

2015 Jays were by far the best team in baseball and it wasn’t close (you certainly can’t say the same about the 2025 Jays, the Dodgers are far more talented).

Yesterday was a bad loss but so was that one too for different reasons.

[Randle McMurphy]

I don’t think the Jays are in an overly great spot going forward but I also don’t think it’s a bad one either.

This FO, for all its faults, has shown the ability to at least build playoff teams. And this ownership is as committed as any Jays ownership has been in three decades.

Ed needs to continue to boost the payroll to keep this team competitive and my expectation is that they’ll do that. There’s not one reason at all we can’t spend like the Yankees do every year and that can otherwise solve a lot of roster/aging player issues.

I agree with this. Baseball is not like basketball where you get stuck in the middle. Anything can happen, and our talent level can sneak into the playoffs, and then variability can propel us into WS again in the next decade.

Money solves a lot of issues in baseball (and should continue to as long as the players hold strong) and the Jays have shown they have plenty of that to throw it around.

Just keep spending, getting in the playoffs and giving yourself chances. Vlad has shown what he’s capable of on the biggest stage at least, so that helps.

[Randle McMurphy]

And we need to hope the players fight hard in 2027 to prevent a salary cap from getting put into place. That would cost baseball a season (at least) but we very badly do not want one.

Because we have idiots for FO who are about to be locked in for the next 10 years.

Stupid azz contracts like

Chad Green
Hyun-jin Ryu
Tanner Roark
Santander

will no longer be hidden / patched over by spending more money.

Well you’ll get no argument from me about the FO but they’re not going anywhere at this point.

[Randle McMurphy]

I think I’m done watching sports. What’s the point why get so invested in this **** it’s so stupid

Because sometimes 2019 can happen.

[Madvillainy2004]

That Rojas HR was so improbable like this guy has 57 HRs in 4800 PAs in his career lmao like Hoffman threw a cookie but youd hardly expect him to clip you with a fastball down the middle.

[GameChannel]

****. Doulton. Varsho.

[scuervo1]

Let’s bring the best Korean players since we cannot attract the Japanese ones.

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And we need to hope the players fight hard in 2027 to prevent a salary cap from getting put into place. That would cost baseball a season (at least) but we very badly do not want one.

no, you are wrong here once again
thats why nobody likes you here.

baseball do indeed need a salary cap similiar to the nhl/nba
if we dont, then we have to spend every year just to compete with the yankees and the red sox
you have to keep in mind that we are stuck in the toughest division of baseball.

Just because Rogers spent this year does not mean that they will spend again for the next 2 years because they are known for being cheap.

Literally the only reason the Jays have made the playoffs so frequently in the Shapiro era is because of the lack of a salary cap and because Rogers has invested a ton in winning for a decade now with high payrolls.

So no, you’re completely wrong and/or living 20 years in the past. A level playing field is exactly what this organization does not want considering our huge advantage at ownership level compared to basically every team that isn’t the Mets or Dodgers.

Agreed, Rogers also made a boatload of extra money from these playoffs - tens of millions at the gate and in ad revenues, and will lock in next season's main advertisers at higher rates because of that. Rogers gets 40% of ticket sales for TEN home playoff games at astronomical FACE PRICES. They keep all of the concession money. The leveraged playoff ticket access to lock in a lot of fans to 2026 season tickets and season ticket packages. Rogers got supplemental TV ad revenues and helped lock in (retain) lots of digital and wireless subscribers.

In 2024, sports - both the Jays and Sportsnet generated a 3.4% margin for the parent company, which is not much. In 2025, with a longer Leafs playoff run and the Jays epic run, you can bet it will be a lot greater than 3.4% - so the incentive is there to spend shat it takes continue fielding a serious contender. There is a lot of payroll flux considering three starting pitchers with significant money will be free agents along with Bo and Dominguez. The Chad Green money comes off the books. The team will probably substitute Yesavage's cheap salary for one of the starters, so just from that and the Green money, they have room to play with the pitching staff even without increasing payroll for that. Keeping Bo won't be a matter of money so much as whether he's ready to be flexible about where he'd play, especially in the later years of a long-term deal. They could let him go and hunt another big bat elsewhere. Jon Heyman believes the Jays will even be a suitor for Kyle Tucker, I don't know how that would work positionally with Springer, Santander, et al. Would they use Barger as FT 3B? Anyway, that's not my current concern.

My final word on this season before looking ahead is the: I'm not crying. This team far exceeded expectations. In May, it looked like another lost season. Then things lifted off, and the Jays battled through the playoffs and delivered one of the best World Series ever. It was a terrific ride. For all of the carping, some forget that Bo was playing on one leg, Springer had an oblique injury on top of a bed leg, Nathan Lukes banged up his knee in the Seattle series and Ernie Clement had a non-displaced fracture in a hand that's likely not close to fully healed. The Dodgers seemed to be relatively healthy. None of the guys playing last night with their injuries would have been in the lineup for a regular season game. Most would have sat out another week, two or even three weeks.Sure, there are things that bother me, like why Varsho struggles with such a large strike zone, but I just can't feel bad about this series because nobody really let me down (although I have expressed the view that the team should have acquired one more high leverage reliever along the way, because betting on Yimi Garcis' health last winter was a bad one, and predictably bad at that.)

So it's onward and upward. If one can say a team did us proud, performed with honour, this one was it.