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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#61 » by handsome salary » Fri Oct 31, 2025 12:42 pm

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Book's just sad Austin Reeves is more clutch. At least he's still showing his flair for leading the Suns to the bottom.
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#62 » by King4Day » Fri Oct 31, 2025 1:36 pm

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I wonder if there was a handshake agreement with Book saying, "sign the extension and let's see how this season goes. If it doesn't work out, we'll look to move you in the offseason".

While it's nowhere near the same thing, I've been playing with the same rec league team for 4 straight seasons and we have the same problems each season. Regardless of the players we add. Because the core of it remains the same problem.
I'm so burned out and know I need a fresh start elsewhere (probably just going to stop playing for now).

Point being, Booker in Phoenix has likely run his course and he's probably tired of this and wants to move on. If we're not going to be good anymore anyway, see if you can move him for a young player and picks and move on.

Maybe Houston will take him for our remaining picks and one or 2 of their young players not named Amen. At least we'd get some control back.
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#63 » by sunsbg » Fri Oct 31, 2025 4:06 pm

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Book's just sad Austin Reeves is more clutch. At least he's still showing his flair for leading the Suns to the bottom.


Reeves had pretty similar stats last season and is putting better stats than Booker this season. Wonder if Lakers give him 70M+ contract. Being the Lakers they signed him on the cheap on previous deal.
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#64 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri Oct 31, 2025 4:26 pm

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Why he does provide more offensive versatility than both Richards and Ighodaro or even Williams and should at minimum be getting some minutes of the plan is to try and win some games.
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#65 » by Saberestar » Fri Oct 31, 2025 4:26 pm

New Utah Jazz big Jusuf Nurkic when asked why things didn't work out for Phoenix Suns while he was on the team with Devin Booker, Kevin Durant and Bradley Beal: “I don’t think that’s a question for me, I think it’s probably for (Suns CEO Josh Bartelstein) or a lot of people who are actually in charge.
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#66 » by sunsbg » Fri Oct 31, 2025 4:29 pm

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Why he does provide more offensive versatility than both Richards and Ighodaro or even Williams and should at minimum be getting some minutes of the plan is to try and win some games.


Just reveal the secret weapon already.
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#67 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri Oct 31, 2025 4:32 pm

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Book's just sad Austin Reeves is more clutch. At least he's still showing his flair for leading the Suns to the bottom.


Reeves had pretty similar stats last season and is putting better stats than Booker this season. Wonder if Lakers give him 70M+ contract. Being the Lakers they signed him on the cheap on previous deal.


I believe that there is a direct correlation between the whole point Book role and how passive Booker's been deferring to lesser options, passing on great looks offensively at times and his disappearing in the first three quarters causing his impact, efficiency and value to diminish.

Also it causing him to not be in a solid offensive rythm and not taking over more as he used to do. And his value and league status is also suffering as a result too.
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#68 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri Oct 31, 2025 4:34 pm

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I was really looking forward to seeing a healthy starting lineup tomorrow


This news seems par for the course with us this season unfortunately.
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#69 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri Oct 31, 2025 8:16 pm

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Book's just sad Austin Reeves is more clutch. At least he's still showing his flair for leading the Suns to the bottom.


Reeves wants the spotlight, still has that fire and will yo he dominant. Booker since the KD trade, and getting paid supermax money doesn't. He's become passive and low impact for large stretches of the games.

Now alot of this could be attributed to his new role trying to play point guard and set up his teammates before he ever looks to get his rythm going offensively.

But the problem with this strategy is simply that the ones he's deferring his shots to are much less effective/ efficient and worse options than if he just took the shot himself.

Booker used to idolize Kobe for his work ethic and killer instinct. And he used to takeover games and score 50 or 70 even. Back then he was a truly elite threat! A star player with superstar potential. But then he started deferring to KD and became a 2nd option.

And now the passive " Whatever " mentality has affected him too much. Now he's trying too much to he Chris Paul and a faux point guard, rather than a kobe lethal threat to takeover games at will. We only have one star player in Booker trying to make our lesser options play like stars instead of just leading the way.

His passivity and waiting until the 3rd or 4th quarter to impact games dominantly resulted in our losses because we just don't have the firepower without him being aggressive and taking over.

I just wonder if he's quietly conceded the season and our rebuild masquerading as a retool?? Knowing we have no real way of compering for a championship anymore while he's here?
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#70 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri Oct 31, 2025 9:24 pm

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I wonder if there was a handshake agreement with Book saying, "sign the extension and let's see how this season goes. If it doesn't work out, we'll look to move you in the offseason".

While it's nowhere near the same thing, I've been playing with the same rec league team for 4 straight seasons and we have the same problems each season. Regardless of the players we add. Because the core of it remains the same problem.
I'm so burned out and know I need a fresh start elsewhere (probably just going to stop playing for now).

Point being, Booker in Phoenix has likely run his course and he's probably tired of this and wants to move on. If we're not going to be good anymore anyway, see if you can move him for a young player and picks and move on.

Maybe Houston will take him for our remaining picks and one or 2 of their young players not named Amen. At least we'd get some control back.


I wouldn't trade Booker to Houston without at least a package of two young players in Jabari Smith and ( with Whitmore gone now) Eason. I don't really care about Sheppard because we have Gillespie whose just as good and who will be cheaper to contractually.

Add a Finney Smith and Adams ( for girth matchups- allowing us to more easily trade Richards) and at least our 27' 1st, 29' 1st and
2031' HOU 1st.

Now they likely would try to lowball us for sure. But honestly, there the last team (aside from the Flakers or Warriors) that I'd prefer to deal with anyways. I also wouldn't deal with most Western teams by choice.

My top 3 to deal Booker WHEN it comes to it would be:

1- Detroit.
For something around Ivey, Holland, Klintman, DET 27, 29 and 31 1st.

2- Orlando.
Something around Suggs or Bane, Isaac, Black, De Silva, ORL 27, 29, and 31'1st.

3- Brooklyn.
Something around Porter Jr, Z Williams, Tyrese Martin, Clowney, BRK 26' 1st, PHI 28' 1st ( top 8 protected), 2030 1st.

4- Utah.
Something around Hendricks, Bailey, Collier, UTA 27' 1st, 29' 1sts, and our PHX 31' 1st back.

5- Philly.
Something around George, EDGECOMBE, PHI 27' 1st, 29' 1st ( swap rights with Clippers).
** I'd take George in order to get Edgecombe and because George and Booker don't like each other anyways.

Now Booker's value probably isn't that good to command such returns currently, but these would be the examples of my thresholds for value in trades.

*** Darkhorse trades:

Atlanta.
Something around Jalen Johnson or Dyson Daniels, Kennard, Toppin, ATL 27' 1st ( NOP OR MIL swap rights, ATL 29' 1st.

New Orleans.
Something around Zion (centerpiece), Murray, 27' MIL 1st ( NOP swap rights), NOP 2030 1st.
** We could use that 27' 1st or trade it back to Milwaukee for Ryan Rollins and Andre Jackson or Tyler Smith and their 31' MIL 1st? With light protections perhaps??
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#71 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri Oct 31, 2025 9:30 pm

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Why he does provide more offensive versatility than both Richards and Ighodaro or even Williams and should at minimum be getting some minutes of the plan is to try and win some games.


Just reveal the secret weapon already.


I obviously wouldn't play him before Mark Williams, but I would at least give him opportunities alongside Williams or alongside of Richards in double big lineups to try and match opposing teams two or more 7 fters when they employ that against us. At the minimum he'd offer more size, length and offensive versatility than Ighodaro or Richards even.

And it should definitely at least help address our rebounding and 2nd chance points around the rim weaknesses.
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#72 » by Sunsdeuce » Fri Oct 31, 2025 10:30 pm

Just praying to see the news Booker is traded so I can find some hope in this teams future. Booker is just Kyler Murray now (overpaid, under achiever, big ego, no results).
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#74 » by bigfoot » Sat Nov 1, 2025 1:27 am

Good assessment on when to start playing the rookies heavy minutes. Key points, if Suns are not winning, teams need to see Allen, O'Neale, and Richards play in order to make a trade happen. Rookies time will bump up after 15 games and by trade deadline we should see plenty of them if the team is losing.

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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#75 » by Puff » Sat Nov 1, 2025 1:46 am

What a depressing bunch of crap.
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

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I don't know that he'd be any better than J Green next to Booker. And we don't really have the assets to get him obviously. I also wouldn't give up any of our young core with the exception of maybe Ighodaro as an inclusive trade piece.

I also wouldn't want to give up Mark Williams, but perhaps a 3 team trade with J Green, Richards and some combination of O'neale, Allen or Ighodaro included. And one team gets those players and we get a #2 threat back to play alongside of Booker as a number 2 offensive option.
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#77 » by Fo-Real » Sun Nov 2, 2025 2:52 pm

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I don't know that he'd be any better than J Green next to Booker. And we don't really have the assets to get him obviously. I also wouldn't give up any of our young core with the exception of maybe Ighodaro as an inclusive trade piece.

I also wouldn't want to give up Mark Williams, but perhaps a 3 team trade with J Green, Richards and some combination of O'neale, Allen or Ighodaro included. And one team gets those players and we get a #2 threat back to play alongside of Booker as a number 2 offensive option.



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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#78 » by sunsbg » Sun Nov 2, 2025 5:52 pm

For someone who preferred Ja or at least was fine for missing on Zion for him in that draft I'd take Green over this gangsta-wannabe. Pass.
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

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I don't know that he'd be any better than J Green next to Booker. And we don't really have the assets to get him obviously. I also wouldn't give up any of our young core with the exception of maybe Ighodaro as an inclusive trade piece.

I also wouldn't want to give up Mark Williams, but perhaps a 3 team trade with J Green, Richards and some combination of O'neale, Allen or Ighodaro included. And one team gets those players and we get a #2 threat back to play alongside of Booker as a number 2 offensive option.



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For sure! How about sending him to another team such as Utah and getting Markannen back? Or to Brooklyn for a package around Porter Jr/ Zhaire Williams/ Clowney/ picks? Maybe Orlando ( reunite him with Bane) for Suggs/ Desilva/ pick or two? Suggs would be perfect next to Booker.

Sacramento should have interest of course, but not sure they'd have anything that I'd want other than picks. I'd probably take a flier on Zion in a 3 team trade with the Pels getting Morant.

Just because if it paid off, we'd have an alpha star to play in the frontcourt off of Booker. And maybe see if I could finagle D Murray off of them too. IF Zion doesn't work out, and is too injured, his contract is fully non guaranteed for his remaining 3 years anyways.
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