Around the league -- Offseason edition

[41Dirk41]

Grimes wanted to be traded after Luka fiasco, Nico moron Harrison had to trade him ASAP and no more options were on the table.

I hoped all roster had demanded a trade after that collusion but it didn't happened. Unfortunately.

NBA needs an epic shock, Silver made this league a joke.

[Bob8]

What I don't understand is why Nico felt he HAD TO trade Grimes. We had his bird rights and could match any offer, get a S&T, or simply let him walk and be relieved the $4.2m salary. The only thing I can think of is that Nico was pissed Grimes didn't take his paltry offer. I know the Grimes camp said they wanted $25m to $30m; but people in hell want ice water. The funny part is Grimes will get that contract this summer.

Problem is Grimes' agent informed Mavs that he wants to be traded after the Luka deal. On his way out, he trashed the organization how badly they treated Luka. He was basically the first guy who spoke up about the trade.

But lets pretend both trades never happened. Grimes would give Mavs insane depth, which would have already been quite good. That team was legit 8-9 players deep and they could have gone toe to toe with OKC. So obviously many believed this was actually Mavs year to win. IND wouldn't stand a chance against that team in the finals.

So, with that being said, even if Grimes declined to any contract offer, the smartest thing to do would be to just ride it out and go for the ring and let Grimes walk, because you already accomplished the mission, you won it all. But no, Nico had to be smarter than that and completely ruined everything and now Grimes is getting actually paid LESS than Martin who Nico traded for because of APRON reasons.

And another fun fact if you didn't know, AD agreed to decline his trade kicker clause so that Mavs could stay under the 2nd apron with a chance of signing another cheaper player lol.

Nico literally screwed up 3 players and entire city of Dallas and Mavs fanbase IN ONLY A WEEK !!! Then after Mavs landed nr1 pick he had the balls to say "I hope fans can see the vision now".

And this is why he has to go even if by some miracle Mavs win a ring, fans will always hate this dumbass.

Grimes denied that he wanted to be traded. He said he didn't know anything about the trade.

[Super Cooper]

Here's a fun fact of how dumb that Grimes-Martin trade was/is beyond just PPG:

Quentin Grimes has made 95 3s since departing from the Mavs. Shooting 38% on a whopping 7-8 attempts per game. Grimes has averaged 4 apg since leaving the Mavs. He's also played 1069 minutes since leaving the Mavs.

Martin has made 5 total 3s since joining the Mavs. Shooting 26% on a pathetic 1 3PA a game. Martin has averaged 1 apg since joining the Mavs. Martin has played only 308 minutes in total with the Mavs.

There's our 3 biggest issues. Shooting, playmaking, availability. All of which Grimes could have helped with quite a bit.

Thanks for your research. That certainly brings the point home.

What I don't understand is why Nico felt he HAD TO trade Grimes. We had his bird rights and could match any offer, get a S&T, or simply let him walk and be relieved the $4.2m salary. The only thing I can think of is that Nico was pissed Grimes didn't take his paltry offer. I know the Grimes camp said they wanted $25m to $30m; but people in hell want ice water. The funny part is Grimes will get that contract this summer.

The Result?
PHI got another year of Grimes for only $8.7m. Grimes 33.3mins, 21.3pts, 2.94m3pt on 38%, 5.1rbs, 4.8asts 1.4stls in 31 games.
We got another 3 years of Martin for the bargain price of $27m. Martin 17.1mins, 4.8pts, 0.3m3pt on 27%, 2.5rbs, 1.7asts 0.9stls in 18 games.

Oh, and let's not forget the 2025 SRP Nico tossed to PHI, insult to injury. It became SEC player of the year C Johni Broome.

[Super Cooper]

What I don't understand is why Nico felt he HAD TO trade Grimes. We had his bird rights and could match any offer, get a S&T, or simply let him walk and be relieved the $4.2m salary. The only thing I can think of is that Nico was pissed Grimes didn't take his paltry offer. I know the Grimes camp said they wanted $25m to $30m; but people in hell want ice water. The funny part is Grimes will get that contract this summer.

Problem is Grimes' agent informed Mavs that he wants to be traded after the Luka deal. On his way out, he trashed the organization how badly they treated Luka. He was basically the first guy who spoke up about the trade.

But lets pretend both trades never happened. Grimes would give Mavs insane depth, which would have already been quite good. That team was legit 8-9 players deep and they could have gone toe to toe with OKC. So obviously many believed this was actually Mavs year to win. IND wouldn't stand a chance against that team in the finals.

So, with that being said, even if Grimes declined to any contract offer, the smartest thing to do would be to just ride it out and go for the ring and let Grimes walk, because you already accomplished the mission, you won it all. But no, Nico had to be smarter than that and completely ruined everything and now Grimes is getting actually paid LESS than Martin who Nico traded for because of APRON reasons.

And another fun fact if you didn't know, AD agreed to decline his trade kicker clause so that Mavs could stay under the 2nd apron with a chance of signing another cheaper player lol.

Nico literally screwed up 3 players and entire city of Dallas and Mavs fanbase IN ONLY A WEEK !!! Then after Mavs landed nr1 pick he had the balls to say "I hope fans can see the vision now".

And this is why he has to go even if by some miracle Mavs win a ring, fans will always hate this dumbass.

Grimes denied that he wanted to be traded. He said he didn't know anything about the trade.

Ya, I call BS on his wanting to be traded. For what reason? It doesn't make sense. He was going to be a RFA and the Mavs desperately needed him.

I wonder if Nico influenced Kidd in not utilizing Grimes that much. I can't imagine he looked at the Luka-less roster and said "let me sit this 24yo defensive stud who shoots 3's at a high percentage".

[Bob8]

Here's a fun fact of how dumb that Grimes-Martin trade was/is beyond just PPG:

Quentin Grimes has made 95 3s since departing from the Mavs. Shooting 38% on a whopping 7-8 attempts per game. Grimes has averaged 4 apg since leaving the Mavs. He's also played 1069 minutes since leaving the Mavs.

Martin has made 5 total 3s since joining the Mavs. Shooting 26% on a pathetic 1 3PA a game. Martin has averaged 1 apg since joining the Mavs. Martin has played only 308 minutes in total with the Mavs.

There's our 3 biggest issues. Shooting, playmaking, availability. All of which Grimes could have helped with quite a bit.

Thanks for your research. That certainly brings the point home.

What I don't understand is why Nico felt he HAD TO trade Grimes. We had his bird rights and could match any offer, get a S&T, or simply let him walk and be relieved the $4.2m salary. The only thing I can think of is that Nico was pissed Grimes didn't take his paltry offer. I know the Grimes camp said they wanted $25m to $30m; but people in hell want ice water. The funny part is Grimes will get that contract this summer.

The Result?
PHI got another year of Grimes for only $8.7m. Grimes 33.3mins, 21.3pts, 2.94m3pt on 38%, 5.1rbs, 4.8asts 1.4stls in 31 games.
We got another 3 years of Martin for the bargain price of $27m. Martin 17.1mins, 4.8pts, 0.3m3pt on 27%, 2.5rbs, 1.7asts 0.9stls in 18 games.

Oh, and let's not forget the 2025 SRP Nico tossed to PHI, insult to injury. It became SEC player of the year C Johni Broome.

In fact he tossed 2, but he got 1 back after they saw Martin's injury is more severe. Nico could have gone out of the deal too at that moment, but he wanted Martin that bad.

[Archx]

Problem is Grimes' agent informed Mavs that he wants to be traded after the Luka deal. On his way out, he trashed the organization how badly they treated Luka. He was basically the first guy who spoke up about the trade.

But lets pretend both trades never happened. Grimes would give Mavs insane depth, which would have already been quite good. That team was legit 8-9 players deep and they could have gone toe to toe with OKC. So obviously many believed this was actually Mavs year to win. IND wouldn't stand a chance against that team in the finals.

So, with that being said, even if Grimes declined to any contract offer, the smartest thing to do would be to just ride it out and go for the ring and let Grimes walk, because you already accomplished the mission, you won it all. But no, Nico had to be smarter than that and completely ruined everything and now Grimes is getting actually paid LESS than Martin who Nico traded for because of APRON reasons.

And another fun fact if you didn't know, AD agreed to decline his trade kicker clause so that Mavs could stay under the 2nd apron with a chance of signing another cheaper player lol.

Nico literally screwed up 3 players and entire city of Dallas and Mavs fanbase IN ONLY A WEEK !!! Then after Mavs landed nr1 pick he had the balls to say "I hope fans can see the vision now".

And this is why he has to go even if by some miracle Mavs win a ring, fans will always hate this dumbass.

Grimes denied that he wanted to be traded. He said he didn't know anything about the trade.

Ya, I call BS on his wanting to be traded. For what reason? It doesn't make sense. He was going to be a RFA and the Mavs desperately needed him.

I wonder if Nico influenced Kidd in not utilizing Grimes that much. I can't imagine he looked at the Luka-less roster and said "let me sit this 24yo defensive stud who shoots 3's at a high percentage".

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2025/2/7/24360420/report-quentin-grimes-agent-asked-out-of-dallas-following-luka-doncic-trade-to-lakers

[Super Cooper]

Grimes denied that he wanted to be traded. He said he didn't know anything about the trade.

Ya, I call BS on his wanting to be traded. For what reason? It doesn't make sense. He was going to be a RFA and the Mavs desperately needed him.

I wonder if Nico influenced Kidd in not utilizing Grimes that much. I can't imagine he looked at the Luka-less roster and said "let me sit this 24yo defensive stud who shoots 3's at a high percentage".

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2025/2/7/24360420/report-quentin-grimes-agent-asked-out-of-dallas-following-luka-doncic-trade-to-lakers

Eek. That is internet "journalism" at its finest...

It’s starting to feel like former Dallas Mavericks guard Quentin Grimes caught a stray in the aftermath of Saturday’s cataclysmic Luka-Dončić-to-the-Lakers trade. Grimes, along with a second-round draft pick, was dealt to the Philadelphia 76ers in exchange for Caleb Martin early Tuesday afternoon, just a few hours before the two teams faced off at Philly’s Wells Fargo Center. The 76ers handed the Mavs their 15th loss in the team’s last 22 games, 118-116, that evening.

As the dust settled on the decimated remains of the Mavericks franchise and fanbase following the jaw-dropping move to end the Dončić Era in Dallas, Grimes may have felt his playing time starting to evaporate. With restricted free agency looming a little more than a couple of months away for the 24-year-old 3-and-D guard, at least one NBA analyst (unnamed) is reporting that it was Grimes who had seen enough and wanted out of Dallas.

[Super Cooper]

Ya, I call BS on his wanting to be traded. For what reason? It doesn't make sense. He was going to be a RFA and the Mavs desperately needed him.

I wonder if Nico influenced Kidd in not utilizing Grimes that much. I can't imagine he looked at the Luka-less roster and said "let me sit this 24yo defensive stud who shoots 3's at a high percentage".

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2025/2/7/24360420/report-quentin-grimes-agent-asked-out-of-dallas-following-luka-doncic-trade-to-lakers

Eek. That is internet "journalism" at its finest...

It’s starting to feel like former Dallas Mavericks guard Quentin Grimes caught a stray in the aftermath of Saturday’s cataclysmic Luka-Dončić-to-the-Lakers trade. Grimes, along with a second-round draft pick, was dealt to the Philadelphia 76ers in exchange for Caleb Martin early Tuesday afternoon, just a few hours before the two teams faced off at Philly’s Wells Fargo Center. The 76ers handed the Mavs their 15th loss in the team’s last 22 games, 118-116, that evening.

As the dust settled on the decimated remains of the Mavericks franchise and fanbase following the jaw-dropping move to end the Dončić Era in Dallas, Grimes may have felt his playing time starting to evaporate. With restricted free agency looming a little more than a couple of months away for the 24-year-old 3-and-D guard, at least one NBA analyst (unnamed) is reporting that it was Grimes who had seen enough and wanted out of Dallas.

"Quentin Grimes caught a stray"

What does pet adoption have to do with the story? lol

[Bob8]

Grimes denied that he wanted to be traded. He said he didn't know anything about the trade.

Ya, I call BS on his wanting to be traded. For what reason? It doesn't make sense. He was going to be a RFA and the Mavs desperately needed him.

I wonder if Nico influenced Kidd in not utilizing Grimes that much. I can't imagine he looked at the Luka-less roster and said "let me sit this 24yo defensive stud who shoots 3's at a high percentage".

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2025/2/7/24360420/report-quentin-grimes-agent-asked-out-of-dallas-following-luka-doncic-trade-to-lakers

https://thesmokingcuban.com/nba-insider-exposes-brutal-truth-about-dallas-mavericks-embarrassing-quentin-grimes-trade

I would believe Marc Stein more.

[Super Cooper]

Ya, I call BS on his wanting to be traded. For what reason? It doesn't make sense. He was going to be a RFA and the Mavs desperately needed him.

I wonder if Nico influenced Kidd in not utilizing Grimes that much. I can't imagine he looked at the Luka-less roster and said "let me sit this 24yo defensive stud who shoots 3's at a high percentage".

https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2025/2/7/24360420/report-quentin-grimes-agent-asked-out-of-dallas-following-luka-doncic-trade-to-lakers

https://thesmokingcuban.com/nba-insider-exposes-brutal-truth-about-dallas-mavericks-embarrassing-quentin-grimes-trade

I would believe Marc Stein more.

Agreed. Noah Weber is a click bait "journalist". His work is really awful, riddled with unfounded opinion and speculation. In other words, it's like one of us becoming a columnist.

[41Dirk41]

Morant sospended. He will be traded probably...

[Mavrelous]

Most fascinating thing about Luka start is that he's even better than he was in 23/24 inside the 3pt line, and he was the best in the league back then.

[Super Cooper]

Most fascinating thing about Luka start is that he's even better than he was in 23/24 inside the 3pt line, and he was the best in the league back then.

Wow. Great stat. Luka is playing the best basketball of his career. Minus the few possessions he takes off on defense, his shooting and defense is much improved. Could that be conditioning alone? Probably not.

[HMFFL]

Grimes can always be an option....

Tonight 22pts, 7rebs, 13ast

The game is still not over.

[41Dirk41]

Luka & Grimes are what we need.... And we had them.

[Bob8]

LaRavia looks like a total steal for Lakers.

[Mavrelous]

LaRavia looks like a total steal for Lakers.

Still very skeptical, he's on a hot streak, Smart OTOH is the one that looks like a steal to me and DFS replacement.

[Bob8]

LaRavia looks like a total steal for Lakers.

Still very skeptical, he's on a hot streak, Smart OTOH is the one that looks like a steal to me and DFS replacement.

Yes Smart looks great, but Laravia is not only putting on good numbers, but he looks extremely in control and good too. He moves more like Sf than Pf. He can shoot, ball handle, cut...Can defend decently and is good rebounder. I would say very complete package for someone who has today 24th birthday.

[Mavrelous]

LaRavia looks like a total steal for Lakers.

Still very skeptical, he's on a hot streak, Smart OTOH is the one that looks like a steal to me and DFS replacement.

Yes Smart looks great, but Laravia is not only putting on good numbers, but he looks extremely in control and good too. He moves more like Sf than Pf. He can shoot, ball handle, cut...Can defend decently and is good rebounder. I would say very complete package for someone who has today 24th birthday.

I see the exact opposite, he's too slow, and duplicative of Rui, once LeBron is back he'll have no place in rotation, unless they trade Rui, which they can now if they trust Laravia.

[Bob8]

Still very skeptical, he's on a hot streak, Smart OTOH is the one that looks like a steal to me and DFS replacement.

Yes Smart looks great, but Laravia is not only putting on good numbers, but he looks extremely in control and good too. He moves more like Sf than Pf. He can shoot, ball handle, cut...Can defend decently and is good rebounder. I would say very complete package for someone who has today 24th birthday.

I see the exact opposite, he's too slow, and duplicative of Rui, once LeBron is back he'll have no place in rotation, unless they trade Rui, which they can now if they trust Laravia.

Laravia is more mobile than Rui and much better ball handler, he's better rebounder too. Rui is a little bigger and can defend bigger players better. Laravia will come off the bench like he's coming now, he might play fewer minutes, but Lakers aren't exactly deep team. To have someone capable of scoring 20 points off the bench is for sure a big plus. And they got him for free, and gave him 12/2. Lakers are looking pretty good, especially considering how many problems they have with injuries. They played Bronny for 18 minutes yesterday. I would say that their offseason acquisitions are big part of that.

Lakers have two 11 mio expiring contracts. And they can trade, Rui, Vando, Knecht. I would say there's a way to upgrade roster already this season.