Post-game: Ingram-Scottie-CMB-RJ lead Raps to victory!

[PushDaRock]

BI with the quietest 26-7-4

The analytics numbers might not end up great for him but having someone that can actually score in the half court late game is such a different feeling. We had to suffer through years of Demar being forced into that role until finally getting Kawhi one year and then it was back to struggle city with Siakam, Fred, Scottie and whoever else we had trying to do it.

[DemHeavyHands]

BI gives off a lot of Derozan vibes. Obviously shoots the 3 better but in general, it’s a lot of patience and footwork in the mid range. He can carry the offense for long stretches.

Still don’t know how IQ managed to play 31 mins and Shead only 16. Are we playing guys impacting the game or just playing the guy with the bigger contract??

[Tripod]

BI gives off a lot of Derozan vibes. Obviously shoots the 3 better but in general, it’s a lot of patience and footwork in the mid range. He can carry the offense for long stretches.

Still don’t know how IQ managed to play 31 mins and Shead only 16. Are we playing guys impacting the game or just playing the guy with the bigger contract??

Starters do tend to play more than the backups

[Pointgod]

We can't keep CMB on the bench he needs to play with the starter. Dude is light years ahead making a difference on D with this team than any other player we have on the squad.

Let’s pump the brakes on CMB and see how he plays against a front court that isn’t 1 starter surrounded by a bunch of g-league players like our last two games. I think he should firmly get all the backup C and PF minutes and play with the starters but he needs to show more before he becomes the full time C

[everdiso]

BI gives off a lot of Derozan vibes. Obviously shoots the 3 better but in general, it’s a lot of patience and footwork in the mid range. He can carry the offense for long stretches.

Still don’t know how IQ managed to play 31 mins and Shead only 16. Are we playing guys impacting the game or just playing the guy with the bigger contract??

Please no Demar comps.

BI is longer smoother far better touch and better vision. Demar needed the ball in his hands every possession BI can score in the flow with no need to dominate the ball. BI also not a complete liability defensively like DD.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

Time for a consolidation trade. Do it!

[TrustFundBaby]

Put RJ at the 1, move Scottie to the 3, Ingram to the 2, CMB at the 4 when Jakob's back is back

I wouldn't mind seeing this, but not as a starting lineup. Not enough shooting but an interesting unit, essentially our best 5. Yak himself is a decent passer for a C, I can see these guys swing the ball well and it's a big lineup.

[TrustFundBaby]

BI gives off a lot of Derozan vibes. Obviously shoots the 3 better but in general, it’s a lot of patience and footwork in the mid range. He can carry the offense for long stretches.

Still don’t know how IQ managed to play 31 mins and Shead only 16. Are we playing guys impacting the game or just playing the guy with the bigger contract??

Please no Demar comps.

BI is longer smoother far better touch and better vision. Demar needed the ball in his hands every possession BI can score in the flow with no need to dominate the ball. BI also not a complete liability defensively like DD.

Shooting is actually a big gap between the two. Besides 2018, DD was always a reluctant shooter, and even then 31% on 3.6 3PA is still a non shooter. That alone makes BI more valuable

Rest is like you said, he's taller/longer so more able to get his shots off. I agree with the point we haven't had someone who operated in the mid range for years now.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

BI gives off a lot of Derozan vibes. Obviously shoots the 3 better but in general, it’s a lot of patience and footwork in the mid range. He can carry the offense for long stretches.

Still don’t know how IQ managed to play 31 mins and Shead only 16. Are we playing guys impacting the game or just playing the guy with the bigger contract??

Please no Demar comps.

BI is longer smoother far better touch and better vision. Demar needed the ball in his hands every possession BI can score in the flow with no need to dominate the ball. BI also not a complete liability defensively like DD.

Shooting is actually a big gap between the two. Besides 2018, DD was always a reluctant shooter, and even then 31% on 3.6 3PA is still a non shooter. That alone makes BI more valuable

Rest is like you said, he's taller/longer so more able to get his shots off. I agree with the point we haven't had someone who operated in the mid range for years now.

The big gap, is that Demar stays on the floor tbh.

[Raptorfan2012]

Good to get a win for Toronto after last night.

[dballislife]

i really love the core of cmb, scottie, ingram, and rj...we just gotta keep adding more size and defense and shooting

[AkelaLoneWolf]

cmb reminds of scottie in year 1 but somehow better.

4 of our starters were fantastic tonight!

IQ took 5 shots total, 4 of them 3s (50%). There just isn't enough shots in our SL, especially with CMB in there for Poeltl who is low volume. Give him credit for playing in the flow of the offense and letting other guys get theirs.

bench offense continues to be an issue; quickley needs more burn with them; maybe even play alongside shead so he can be defacto shooting guard.

[anotherhomer]

i really love the core of cmb, scottie, ingram, and rj...we just gotta keep adding more size and defense and shooting

Its ok. U asking three streaky mediocre 3 pt shooters to space the floor

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

i really love the core of cmb, scottie, ingram, and rj...we just gotta keep adding more size and defense and shooting

Its ok. U asking three streaky mediocre 3 pt shooters to space the floor

RJ and CMB looked good. Maybe just a little better.

[YogurtProducer]

cmb reminds of scottie in year 1 but somehow better.

4 of our starters were fantastic tonight!

IQ took 5 shots total, 4 of them 3s (50%). There just isn't enough shots in our SL, especially with CMB in there for Poeltl who is low volume. Give him credit for playing in the flow of the offense and letting other guys get theirs.

bench offense continues to be an issue; quickley needs more burn with them; maybe even play alongside shead so he can be defacto shooting guard.

I agree. I had thought RJ should be that guy but he’s playing so well off Barnes/Ingram let it be IQ. It doesn’t really matter who tbh, but IQ shouldn’t shooting 5 times in 31 mins if we can get Dick 6 in 19 mins or Ochai/Shead 4 in 16 each.

If you think he has to start still then fine, do it, but he should be coming out of the game like 4 minutes into the 1st and 3rd, then leading bench units alongside one of RJ/Barnes/Ingram

[TrustFundBaby]

Please no Demar comps.

BI is longer smoother far better touch and better vision. Demar needed the ball in his hands every possession BI can score in the flow with no need to dominate the ball. BI also not a complete liability defensively like DD.

Shooting is actually a big gap between the two. Besides 2018, DD was always a reluctant shooter, and even then 31% on 3.6 3PA is still a non shooter. That alone makes BI more valuable

Rest is like you said, he's taller/longer so more able to get his shots off. I agree with the point we haven't had someone who operated in the mid range for years now.

The big gap, is that Demar stays on the floor tbh.

Fair, DD was an iron man. But strictly on the court I do think Ingram is quite a bit better, but not saying much, since he's supposed to replace Siakam really, and that I don't think is ever happening.

[ForeverTFC]

BI gives off a lot of Derozan vibes. Obviously shoots the 3 better but in general, it’s a lot of patience and footwork in the mid range. He can carry the offense for long stretches.

Still don’t know how IQ managed to play 31 mins and Shead only 16. Are we playing guys impacting the game or just playing the guy with the bigger contract??

Do you hate spacing?

[anotherhomer]

i really love the core of cmb, scottie, ingram, and rj...we just gotta keep adding more size and defense and shooting

Its ok. U asking three streaky mediocre 3 pt shooters to space the floor

RJ and CMB looked good. Maybe just a little better.

they are streaky

[AkelaLoneWolf]

IQ took 5 shots total, 4 of them 3s (50%). There just isn't enough shots in our SL, especially with CMB in there for Poeltl who is low volume. Give him credit for playing in the flow of the offense and letting other guys get theirs.

bench offense continues to be an issue; quickley needs more burn with them; maybe even play alongside shead so he can be defacto shooting guard.

I agree. I had thought RJ should be that guy but he’s playing so well off Barnes/Ingram let it be IQ. It doesn’t really matter who tbh, but IQ shouldn’t shooting 5 times in 31 mins if we can get Dick 6 in 19 mins or Ochai/Shead 4 in 16 each.

If you think he has to start still then fine, do it, but he should be coming out of the game like 4 minutes into the 1st and 3rd, then leading bench units alongside one of RJ/Barnes/Ingram

he should still start; the beauty of the SL on offense is the redundancy; there is no one you can leave alone. plus there is no suitable replacement for him and no, shead or jkw ain't it.

[ForeverTFC]

IQ took 5 shots total, 4 of them 3s (50%). There just isn't enough shots in our SL, especially with CMB in there for Poeltl who is low volume. Give him credit for playing in the flow of the offense and letting other guys get theirs.

bench offense continues to be an issue; quickley needs more burn with them; maybe even play alongside shead so he can be defacto shooting guard.

I agree. I had thought RJ should be that guy but he’s playing so well off Barnes/Ingram let it be IQ. It doesn’t really matter who tbh, but IQ shouldn’t shooting 5 times in 31 mins if we can get Dick 6 in 19 mins or Ochai/Shead 4 in 16 each.

If you think he has to start still then fine, do it, but he should be coming out of the game like 4 minutes into the 1st and 3rd, then leading bench units alongside one of RJ/Barnes/Ingram

Problem is we lack options behind him to provide spacing for the SL, outside maybe Battle. And if we go with Battle, we have no real ball handler on the floor. He didn't shoot much but he still played 32 mins, 4th most on the team. The SL needs him to bring the ball up and space the floor so they can get their offense off.

I still think we benefit most by re-distributing Barrett's volume to IQ/BI/Scottie and getting a 3+D 2-guard beside IQ to improve our spacing and defense.