Did Mark Williams just expose Victor Wembanyama?

[bonita_the_frog]

I knew you were a Wemby hater based on the way you were talking about him in that last thread, despite your best efforts to hide that fact by claiming it wasn't coming from a place of hate when it definitely was lol.

And Wemby had 10 Blocks in this game against the Pelicans, 4* of which were on Zion. Not 2. No need to lie to push a narrative.

You are obsessed with me, and hateful toward me, whereas all I do is HONESTLY (never hide) the reason why I don't believe Wemby would have any success defending the all-time great centers... and that is why when people project him to be the GOAT defender, I reply honestly.

I only saw him block Zion twice, and I've never hated anyone in my life, and who would hate a basketball player (when they aren't even part of our personal lives)?
Just because we point out a player's weakness, it doesn't mean we HATE them
Its bizarre that you think this, and I think even you admit Wemby has physical limitations.

BTW according to the box score Wemby had 9 blocks vs. the Pelicans, not 10.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202510240NOP.html
You don't have the right to question me anymore, and if you do, I'll never see it...

[Castle Black]

I knew you were a Wemby hater based on the way you were talking about him in that last thread, despite your best efforts to hide that fact by claiming it wasn't coming from a place of hate when it definitely was lol.

And Wemby had 10 Blocks in this game against the Pelicans, 4* of which were on Zion. Not 2. No need to lie to push a narrative.

I only saw him block Zion twice, and I've never hated anyone in my life, and who would hate a basketball player?
Just because we point out a player's weakness, it doesn't mean we HATE them.
Its bizarre that you think this, and I think even you admit Wemby has physical limitations.

BTW according to the box score Wemby had 9 blocks vs. the Pelicans, not 10.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202510240NOP.html

He was shorted 1 Block by the incompetent statistician. You can watch all 10 of them in the highlight reel on Youtube. Here's the 4 he had against Zion:

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[UcanUwill]

I knew you were a Wemby hater based on the way you were talking about him in that last thread, despite your best efforts to hide that fact by claiming it wasn't coming from a place of hate when it definitely was lol.

And Wemby had 10 Blocks in this game against the Pelicans, 4* of which were on Zion. Not 2. No need to lie to push a narrative.

I only saw him block Zion twice, and I've never hated anyone in my life, and who would hate a basketball player?
Just because we point out a player's weakness, it doesn't mean we HATE them.
Its bizarre that you think this, and I think even you admit Wemby has physical limitations.

BTW according to the box score Wemby had 9 blocks vs. the Pelicans, not 10.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202510240NOP.html

He was shorted 1 Block by the incompetent statistician. You can watch all 10 of them in the highlight reel on Youtube. Here's the 4 he had against Zion:

Read on Twitter

Victor took it personally when Zion dunked on him first possession of the game, he had insane moments in that game, but it also worth to point out that ZIon was living at a line that game, Victor fouled out and he was -12 in a game that they win. Zion definitely created problems for him.

[3ddman23]

Did you watch the game? Mark williams barely was guarding him. They guard him with smaller guys all night.

Royce O'Neil did a masterful job containing him along with some other people who switched on to him.

More teams need to do this. Wemby doesn't have a dominant post up back down game. So smaller guys on him should work more often then not.

[G R E Y]

I'm confused but not surprised that people are talking like we didn't have ONE competent big available. Like it wouldn't have made a difference if Kornet/Sochan/even Olynyk played? Suns took advantage of that, you play the team in front of you, and didn't let Wemby get any space. But let's not pretend the game wasn't affected by Wemby being the lone big. We've already seen the excellent dividends with French Vanilla together, for instance. I'm not sure relying on a one-game sample or relying on us having only Bismack available behind Wemby is the strategy teams can look to.

[Stan]

I think this "Wemby" experiment has reached it's inevitable conclusion. The Spurs should consider getting rid of him now and cutting their losses.

[jcsunsfan]

Did you watch the game? Mark williams barely was guarding him. They guard him with smaller guys all night.

Royce O'Neil did a masterful job containing him along with some other people who switched on to him.

More teams need to do this. Wemby doesn't have a dominant post up back down game. So smaller guys on him should work more often then not.

They fronted him with a smaller player and then Williams would double him when the ball came to him.

[Ice Man]

Single game conclusions are usually wrong conclusions, based on the observer talking himself into a matchup issue that doesn't actually exist. When on the Bulls, Pau once scored 46 against the Bucks. Stacey and Neil went on and on about how the Bucks couldn't match up with him. In his future games against the Bucks he scored 15, 14, 26, 10, 12, and 16.

Of course, they never went back to that subject and admitted they were wrong.

[Ballings7]

Not so much. Suns as a team defended him well, and Wemby got into foul trouble early.

The foul trouble persisted into the third quarter where the game really got away, which I believe threw him off along with the rotations which were already limited on reliable bigs.

The Suns do have an above-average group of players to give Wemby some issues, though. Dillon Brooks (didn't play tonight), O'Neale, Dunn, their bigs, etc. Not sure why Malauch was mentioned when he didn't play tonight.

But this Spurs team is missing 4 rotation players, three of which that would have definitely played, and two of them were bigs.

Flukey win to me. 3 times out of 4 the Suns gets beat by Spurs. They'd lose 4-1 in a series to SA.

I'm confused but not surprised that people are talking like we didn't have ONE competent big available. Like it wouldn't have made a difference if Kornet/Sochan/even Olynyk played? Suns took advantage of that, you play the team in front of you, and didn't let Wemby get any space. But let's not pretend the game wasn't affected by Wemby being the lone big. We've already seen the excellent dividends with French Vanilla together, for instance. I'm not sure relying on a one-game sample or relying on us having only Bismack available behind Wemby is the strategy teams can look to.

This.

[Revived]

Suns fan here, yes Mark exposed Wemby however Suns are willing to do Spurs a favor and do a C swap of Mark for Wemby so they don’t have to ever worry about this happening again.

One time offer and offer expires in 24 hrs.

[DwayneSchintzus]

I remember when we had Hall of Famers, were busy winning championships and were the class of the league - we would get beaten all the time by teams we "should" have beaten.

It's one game, flush it and get ready for the Lakers.

[Bornstellar]

These knee jerk reaction threads are always so funny. Yes, Wemby had a bad game so let's ignore the entire body of work of his career to this point and claim he got exposed because of a poor game in November. These hot takes are hilarious

[SkyHook]

I'm confused but not surprised that people are talking like we didn't have ONE competent big available. Like it wouldn't have made a difference if Kornet/Sochan/even Olynyk played? Suns took advantage of that, you play the team in front of you, and didn't let Wemby get any space. But let's not pretend the game wasn't affected by Wemby being the lone big. We've already seen the excellent dividends with French Vanilla together, for instance. I'm not sure relying on a one-game sample or relying on us having only Bismack available behind Wemby is the strategy teams can look to.

Keep your logic and your reason. If RealGM has taught me anything, especially lately, it's to overreact to summer league, preseason, and the first week and a half of the regular season.

Wemby will be just fine. Way too early to crown him the best player to ever step on a basketball court or a lock to surpass Eaton's all time bpg record, but am I worried that [checks notes] "Mark Williams has exposed him"? Nah.

[SkyHook]

I think this "Wemby" experiment has reached it's inevitable conclusion. The Spurs should consider getting rid of him now and cutting their losses.

They should move him for Nurkic while he still has some value left.

[LockoutSeason]

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[SkyBill40]

Dude needs to put on some weight. Give him another 50 pounds and I don't think this happens. Williams is definitely more of a physical presence than Wemby, so bodying him and making him work harder than he usually has to is going to likely lead to an off night. But as has been said, Williams/Richards/Maluach all guarded him sparingly and it was the platoon of smaller guys keeping him in check that led to him being less of a factor than usual.

I doubt we have similar success when they play again, but it was nice to see it come together for PHX.

[badpotato]

Dude needs to put on some weight. Give him another 50 pounds and I don't think this happens. Williams is definitely more of a physical presence than Wemby, so bodying him and making him work harder than he usually has to is going to likely lead to an off night. But as has been said, Williams/Richards/Maluach all guarded him sparingly and it was the platoon of smaller guys keeping him in check that led to him being less of a factor than usual.

I doubt we have similar success when they play again, but it was nice to see it come together for PHX.

No, he doesn’t - he looks to be 7'7" tall. I don’t want him to put any more stress on his joints than he absolutely needs to. If it means unfavorable matchups with scrubs like Williams or Richards, then so be it.

[SkyBill40]

Dude needs to put on some weight. Give him another 50 pounds and I don't think this happens. Williams is definitely more of a physical presence than Wemby, so bodying him and making him work harder than he usually has to is going to likely lead to an off night. But as has been said, Williams/Richards/Maluach all guarded him sparingly and it was the platoon of smaller guys keeping him in check that led to him being less of a factor than usual.

I doubt we have similar success when they play again, but it was nice to see it come together for PHX.

No, he doesn’t - he looks to be 7'7" tall. I don’t want him to put any more stress on his joints than he absolutely needs to. If it means unfavorable matchups with scrubs like Williams or Richards, then so be it.

He's going to have issues no matter what precautionary measures are taken. It's just a side effect of being abnormal with relation to height.

[badpotato]

He's going to have issues no matter what precautionary measures are taken. It's just a side effect of being abnormal with relation to height.

I also tell people that I'm going to die anyway when they ask me why I didn’t quit smoking - with the caveat that I know full well my answer is stupid.

There is no reason not to play it safe with Wemby’s injury concerns for the sake of having better matchups with strong 7-footers. There are other ways to get around that problem - like learning how to put them in foul trouble, avoiding static post-ups and taking advantage of Wemby’s mobility while improving balance and stability with the body he currently has. He’s made great strides in that department compared to last season, and he’s not done yet.

[dirkdiggler4177]

Here you got all his shots and misses. It was basically a small defender and blitz with big defenders
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&ContextMeasure=FGA&EndPeriod=0&EndRange=28800&GameID=0022500154&PlayerID=1641705&RangeType=0&Season=2025-26&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&StartPeriod=0&StartRange=0&TeamID=1610612759&flag=3&sct=plot&section=game