Giannis blazes a trail towards a ring

[Myth]

Call me crazy, but the only way I see the Blazers involved in a Giannis trade is as the third team in the Knicks/Giannis deal - either at the deadline or more likely next summer.

Put it this way - what would Portland need to add to returning Milwaukee's 2029 1st and relinquishing the swap rights with the Bucks in 2028 and 2030 to turn Jeremi Grant into OG Anunoby. Giannis/Grant make about $7MM less than Towns/Anunoby this year. Is Towns plus the Bucks regaining control of their draft from 28-30 plus some Knicks swaps enough? Does the Knicks 2026 1st plus their 2033 1st over the summer change things?

The bigger question I have is there anything from a young player perspective MIL can offer to New Orleans to regain control of their 27 1st?

I know this is a real long shot - but we have seen Rudy Gobert, Mikal Bridges, and Desmond Bane traded for massive packages. I could see Anunoby getting 70 cents on the dollar to what those guys went for.

I agree with you. Blazers should be the 3rd team.

I think it should be turning Grant into Towns (instead of OG), but either way.

To sweeten the deal for Blazers (if needed), Bucks/Knicks can offer Knicks swaps - so in essence Blazers still holding 1 to 2 1st swaps - just Knicks instead of Bucks. End result is Bucks getting their longterm future back (from Blazers).

Knicks swaps would be pretty worthless after they land Giannis.

[Wolveswin]

Call me crazy, but the only way I see the Blazers involved in a Giannis trade is as the third team in the Knicks/Giannis deal - either at the deadline or more likely next summer.

Put it this way - what would Portland need to add to returning Milwaukee's 2029 1st and relinquishing the swap rights with the Bucks in 2028 and 2030 to turn Jeremi Grant into OG Anunoby. Giannis/Grant make about $7MM less than Towns/Anunoby this year. Is Towns plus the Bucks regaining control of their draft from 28-30 plus some Knicks swaps enough? Does the Knicks 2026 1st plus their 2033 1st over the summer change things?

The bigger question I have is there anything from a young player perspective MIL can offer to New Orleans to regain control of their 27 1st?

I know this is a real long shot - but we have seen Rudy Gobert, Mikal Bridges, and Desmond Bane traded for massive packages. I could see Anunoby getting 70 cents on the dollar to what those guys went for.

I agree with you. Blazers should be the 3rd team.

I think it should be turning Grant into Towns (instead of OG), but either way.

To sweeten the deal for Blazers (if needed), Bucks/Knicks can offer Knicks swaps - so in essence Blazers still holding 1 to 2 1st swaps - just Knicks instead of Bucks. End result is Bucks getting their longterm future back (from Blazers).

Knicks swaps would be pretty worthless after they land Giannis.

Not in 2032 and 2030 they won’t (be worthless). Giannis is 31 this season - for those seasons he will be 38 and 36 respectively if still playing and not retired in Greece with his family. It’s exactly the same hedge Blazers have right now with Bucks 1sts - hoping Giannis is gone or aged out to make them super sexy. Same same.

[JRoy]

Better just to keep that MIL FRP than take on a nice expensive non star to help another team land a top 3 player.

Hard pass.

[DaVoiceMaster]

No need to wait 6 or 7 years for a pick when the Blazers may have 3 better picks a couple of years earlier. Not a Townes fan either. I can't see Portland as a third team with Milwaukee and New York.

[Myth]

I agree with you. Blazers should be the 3rd team.

I think it should be turning Grant into Towns (instead of OG), but either way.

To sweeten the deal for Blazers (if needed), Bucks/Knicks can offer Knicks swaps - so in essence Blazers still holding 1 to 2 1st swaps - just Knicks instead of Bucks. End result is Bucks getting their longterm future back (from Blazers).

Knicks swaps would be pretty worthless after they land Giannis.

Not in 2032 and 2030 they won’t (be worthless). Giannis is 31 this season - for those seasons he will be 38 and 36 respectively if still playing and not retired in Greece with his family. It’s exactly the same hedge Blazers have right now with Bucks 1sts - hoping Giannis is gone or aged out to make them super sexy. Same same.

But is the rest of the Knicks as old as the rest of the Bucks were at the time we traded them Dame? Bucks are imploding slowly exactly as Portland hoped.

[Wolveswin]

Knicks swaps would be pretty worthless after they land Giannis.

Not in 2032 and 2030 they won’t (be worthless). Giannis is 31 this season - for those seasons he will be 38 and 36 respectively if still playing and not retired in Greece with his family. It’s exactly the same hedge Blazers have right now with Bucks 1sts - hoping Giannis is gone or aged out to make them super sexy. Same same.

But is the rest of the Knicks as old as the rest of the Bucks were at the time we traded them Dame? Bucks are imploding slowly exactly as Portland hoped.

But we can agree not worthless like you were trying to say.

[JRoy]

Close to worthless, then.

[stamsammy]

Call me crazy, but the only way I see the Blazers involved in a Giannis trade is as the third team in the Knicks/Giannis deal - either at the deadline or more likely next summer.

Put it this way - what would Portland need to add to returning Milwaukee's 2029 1st and relinquishing the swap rights with the Bucks in 2028 and 2030 to turn Jeremi Grant into OG Anunoby. Giannis/Grant make about $7MM less than Towns/Anunoby this year. Is Towns plus the Bucks regaining control of their draft from 28-30 plus some Knicks swaps enough? Does the Knicks 2026 1st plus their 2033 1st over the summer change things?

The bigger question I have is there anything from a young player perspective MIL can offer to New Orleans to regain control of their 27 1st?

I know this is a real long shot - but we have seen Rudy Gobert, Mikal Bridges, and Desmond Bane traded for massive packages. I could see Anunoby getting 70 cents on the dollar to what those guys went for.

I agree with you. Blazers should be the 3rd team.

I think it should be turning Grant into Towns (instead of OG), but either way.

To sweeten the deal for Blazers (if needed), Bucks/Knicks can offer Knicks swaps - so in essence Blazers still holding 1 to 2 1st swaps - just Knicks instead of Bucks. End result is Bucks getting their longterm future back (from Blazers).

Where does KAT leads them? a 2nd round ceiling? with no potential top 20 player on the roster.
Meh, I'd rather use the bucks picks to hopefully draft the guy that's gonna lead them to contention.

[JKiddy]

So Giannis wants to play in NY or the NY area for a contender, but he wants to go to PDX? WTF

[JRoy]

So Giannis wants to play in NY or the NY area for a contender, but he wants to go to PDX? WTF

It’s the NY of Oregon.

[tacos]

Not in 2032 and 2030 they won’t (be worthless). Giannis is 31 this season - for those seasons he will be 38 and 36 respectively if still playing and not retired in Greece with his family. It’s exactly the same hedge Blazers have right now with Bucks 1sts - hoping Giannis is gone or aged out to make them super sexy. Same same.

But is the rest of the Knicks as old as the rest of the Bucks were at the time we traded them Dame? Bucks are imploding slowly exactly as Portland hoped.

But we can agree not worthless like you were trying to say.

The blazers are better off drafting those buck picks in the lotto.... Sure future New York swaps are not worthless but they are MUCH closer to worthless than they are to worth as much as they would need to be to acquire the bucks swaps

And the overpaid contracts in KAT and OG don't really do much to sway that because they make superstar money while they are only strong starters with holes in their game to go along with their substantial injury history

[JasonStern]

Pretty sure any Giannis trade starts with Deni/Sharpe/Camara, which depletes Portland's younger depth. Then you're looking at a wasted season this year, and hoping Dame can return to form to run a Giannis/Dame/Jrue core. Is that a contender? Maybe. Not really confident that could beat the Thunder. Maybe if you start removing Deni/Sharpe/Camara pieces - replace with Scoot or Yang or something. But at that point, 28 other teams could beat the Blazers offer.

[Myth]

Pretty sure any Giannis trade starts with Deni/Sharpe/Camara, which depletes Portland's younger depth. Then you're looking at a wasted season this year, and hoping Dame can return to form to run a Giannis/Dame/Jrue core. Is that a contender? Maybe. Not really confident that could beat the Thunder. Maybe if you start removing Deni/Sharpe/Camara pieces - replace with Scoot or Yang or something. But at that point, 28 other teams could beat the Blazers offer.

The only thing Blazers can offer that other teams can’t is the return of Bucks player picks so being bad without Giannis is palatable, but that is a pretty decent advantage. I think those could allow the Blazers to keep one of their forwards. Essentially a boat load of picks, including Bucks ability to tank.

[Godaddycurse]

Pretty sure any Giannis trade starts with Deni/Sharpe/Camara, which depletes Portland's younger depth. Then you're looking at a wasted season this year, and hoping Dame can return to form to run a Giannis/Dame/Jrue core. Is that a contender? Maybe. Not really confident that could beat the Thunder. Maybe if you start removing Deni/Sharpe/Camara pieces - replace with Scoot or Yang or something. But at that point, 28 other teams could beat the Blazers offer.

The only thing Blazers can offer that other teams can’t is the return of Bucks player picks so being bad without Giannis is palatable, but that is a pretty decent advantage. I think those could allow the Blazers to keep one of their forwards. Essentially a boat load of picks, including Bucks ability to tank.

but they dont own the bucks next 2 picks

[JRoy]

Pretty sure any Giannis trade starts with Deni/Sharpe/Camara, which depletes Portland's younger depth. Then you're looking at a wasted season this year, and hoping Dame can return to form to run a Giannis/Dame/Jrue core. Is that a contender? Maybe. Not really confident that could beat the Thunder. Maybe if you start removing Deni/Sharpe/Camara pieces - replace with Scoot or Yang or something. But at that point, 28 other teams could beat the Blazers offer.

The only thing Blazers can offer that other teams can’t is the return of Bucks player picks so being bad without Giannis is palatable, but that is a pretty decent advantage. I think those could allow the Blazers to keep one of their forwards. Essentially a boat load of picks, including Bucks ability to tank.

but they dont own the bucks next 2 picks

That sounds like MILs problem.

[Godaddycurse]

The only thing Blazers can offer that other teams can’t is the return of Bucks player picks so being bad without Giannis is palatable, but that is a pretty decent advantage. I think those could allow the Blazers to keep one of their forwards. Essentially a boat load of picks, including Bucks ability to tank.

but they dont own the bucks next 2 picks

That sounds like MILs problem.

it's also portland's problem if their selling pitch is it allows bucks to tank when it doesn't (for the next 2 years)

[JRoy]

but they dont own the bucks next 2 picks

That sounds like MILs problem.

it's also portland's problem if their selling pitch is it allows bucks to tank when it doesn't (for the next 2 years)

POR shouldn’t be making a pitch for GA at all.

[JKiddy]

So Giannis wants to play in NY or the NY area for a contender, but he wants to go to PDX? WTF

It’s the NY of Oregon.

HAHA I love this from you JRoy!

[JRoy]

So Giannis wants to play in NY or the NY area for a contender, but he wants to go to PDX? WTF

It’s the NY of Oregon.

HAHA I love this from you JRoy!

Appreciate it.