Celts Lack Pizzazz, Can't Steal One From Jazz! Loss vs UTA 11/3

[He_Got_Game]

This team is boring to watch. They just brick shots all night. I will be cancelling league pass and checking the box scores for the rest of this season. Yikes.

[Parasite]

Can we just tank please?

[return2glory]

I’m venting tonight but the only reason Jordan Walsh is on the team and not another rebounding center (Bassey, Wiseman, Bamba etc.) is money. That’s it, just money.

No other reason other than the Celtics don’t want to spend one penny more on this team

I don't think it's about not spending money on the team. Why would Brad or the owners try to improve this team right now? I personally don't want the Celtics to bring in anyone on this team this early in the season to win the team win games. This is not this year to do that. This is the season to play Queta, Minott, Garza and Hugo to see what they have. See if they will be playable for next season.

We all know Simons is a rental that will be gone most likely by the end of the season. Other than that, the only reliable talent on the team is Brown, White and Prichard. With Tatum next season, that makes 4 players. This team needs to add talent in a big way. Top 5-10 pick in the draft wouldn't be a bad start. Brad will have money to spend next off season. We get need improvements out of 2 or 3 of Queta, Minott, Hugo, Garza and Baylor heading into next season.

[Celts17Pride]

Hauser and Simons are one trick ponies. They either score or they are useless. Stevens should be open to moving either

[return2glory]

This team is boring to watch. They just brick shots all night. I will be cancelling league pass and checking the box scores for the rest of this season. Yikes.

They are boring to what on some games. But for me, I love the league pass with will continue to watch all the games. I record most of them, because I don't have time to sit through 2.5 hours. Tivo is great. I spend through commercials, half time and some FTs, and can watch a game in around an hour.

[playa-hater]

A well deserved loss.

Joe has been doing a really good job so far in this young season when it comes to the role players. Soon as someone like Queta or Minott is string together a few good minutes, he immediately takes them out of the game and cools off their momentum. I also like how he brings in a player for 2 or 3 minutes and takes them right back out of the game.

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Well, I kind of said this, but you hit the nail on its head.. I don't know how anyone can argue with this paragraph. And yet there will be some that will..

[tfribs45]

Celts remind us how they choked away the Knicks series, live and die by the three! Brick after brick yet they keep shooting threes. Mix it up and we def need to toughen up down low. Queta is a solid backup Center…..obviously this rosters incomplete , will be interesting to see where this team is by the trade deadline

[return2glory]

Hauser and Simons are one trick ponies. They either score or they are useless. Stevens should be open to moving either

The plan has been not to have Simons here past the deadline or at least let his expiring contract expire.

Hauser is more valuable when you have Tatum driving and dishing or when Tatum draws double teams. With Tatum not playing this season, it's going to be hard for guys like Hauser get open looks. Some people seem to forget how Tatum improved his ability to get teammates more involved and get them easier looks over the past 2 seasons.

[redslastlaugh]

They have another rebounding center though in Amari Williams who has 50 games of eligibility as a two way.
They could play him if they wanted to.

I’m venting tonight but the only reason Jordan Walsh is on the team and not another rebounding center (Bassey, Wiseman, Bamba etc.) is money. That’s it, just money.

No other reason other than the Celtics don’t want to spend one penny more on this team

[NYCelticsfan136]

Jaylen Brown goes down with a prolonged injury, this team is a 20 win team. I guess the pro tank crowd has something to root for this season

What’s the point of winning meaningless games? I don’t see Tatum coming back this year really.

[NYCelticsfan136]

Celts remind us how they choked away the K cons series, live and die by the three! Brick after brick yet they keep shooting threes. Mix it up and we def need to toughen up down low. Queta is a solid backup Center…..obviously this rosters incomplete , will be interesting to see where this team is by the trade deadline

Are there any good post up prospects in this coming draft? Any inside players?

[return2glory]

Jaylen Brown goes down with a prolonged injury, this team is a 20 win team. I guess the pro tank crowd has something to root for this season

What’s the point of winning meaningless games? I don’t see Tatum coming back this year really.

I think if this team goes about 9 and 16 at the 25 game mark, it will take some pressure off the fans and the team to try and win games.
Come the 50 game mark and if the team is about 18-32, we will few Brown, White and Prichard get some well deserved nights off for load management.

Still too early for that, but to me the 25 and 50 game marks will be a big telling sign. What this team for only 8 games so far this season, we can all see the team needs more talent. The draft is one way of doing that.

[redslastlaugh]

The style is boring. It produces upsets. It takes a big talent advantage to overcome.
There is no advantage to shooting more 3's than the opponent because of the far lower conversion rate and increase in variance that encourages upsets

Last year we shot ourselves out of the playoffs after attempting 100 3PTA in games 1 & 2 against the Knicks
Pacers & Thunder attempted 33 3pt attempts and 35 3 pt attempts and those are the two teams that made the Finals

Utah shot 31 attempts tonight, we shot 51 ...

oh well, thats what I'm seeing anyway

Short on talent now, but Brad can do something about that after December 15.

Mazzulla-Ball gave us Banner 18.
Whether we like it or not, the Celtics are a 3pt shooting team.
It's not Joe's fault that the players are missing open shots.

X's and O's is very subjective.

You have guys like White, PP, and Hauser getting a lot of minutes.
All 3 are 3pt shooters.
You can't scheme for something that those players are not capable of doing.

Sam Hauser tries to drive to the basket and bad things happen because Sam is just not good at driving to the basket.

They are 3pt shooters.

It is what it is.

[The Corey's]

Are we ready yet?

[Fierce1]

The style is boring. It produces upsets. It takes a big talent advantage to overcome.
There is no advantage to shooting more 3's than the opponent because of the far lower conversion rate and increase in variance that encourages upsets

Last year we shot ourselves out of the playoffs after attempting 100 3PTA in games 1 & 2 against the Knicks
Pacers & Thunder attempted 33 3pt attempts and 35 3 pt attempts and those are the two teams that made the Finals

Utah shot 31 attempts tonight, we shot 51 ...

oh well, thats what I'm seeing anyway

Short on talent now, but Brad can do something about that after December 15.

Mazzulla-Ball gave us Banner 18.
Whether we like it or not, the Celtics are a 3pt shooting team.
It's not Joe's fault that the players are missing open shots.

X's and O's is very subjective.

You have guys like White, PP, and Hauser getting a lot of minutes.
All 3 are 3pt shooters.
You can't scheme for something that those players are not capable of doing.

Sam Hauser tries to drive to the basket and bad things happen because Sam is just not good at driving to the basket.

They are 3pt shooters.

It is what it is.

You're not wrong, but I still prefer Mazzulla-Ball over the iso-heavy Udoka offense.

Brad just needs to get the right players for Joe.

I think the last 30 games of the season will decide which direction this team is headed.

[Fencer reregistered]

Jaylen Brown goes down with a prolonged injury, this team is a 20 win team. I guess the pro tank crowd has something to root for this season

If I read the box score correctly, the Celtics were +21 in Jaylen's 38 minutes, but -23 in the 10 minutes he was on the bench.

[Fierce1]

Back in 2021-22, Cs were 3-5 to start the season with new coach Udoka.

We all know the Cs went to the Finals that season.

Who knows, maybe it will be the same outcome this season.

[ThePigeon]

The issue with being a lottery team is Brad's draft picks. I don't have confidence in him
We will get another Baylor or Shulga or a washed up player, or get a the 28 pick + 2 future seconds. That's because Brad think he is wiser than all the other GMs.
Take some lessons from Sam Presty please

Plus you will get disgruntled stars in JT and JB

We need to move Simons, Hauser and the plethora of non functional bigs. I'd even consider moving White if he continues to suck

[Fierce1]

The issue with being a lottery team is Brad's draft picks. I don't have confidence in him
We will get another Baylor or Shulga or a washed up player, or get a the 28 pick + 2 future seconds. That's because Brad think he is wiser than all the other GMs.
Take some lessons from Sam Presty please

Plus you will get disgruntled stars in JT and JB

We need to move Simons, Hauser and the plethora of non functional bigs. I'd even consider moving White if he continues to suck

Brad will make a move.

We just have to be patient.

[Infinite Llamas]

Amazingly, the season is about a tenth done and we are only a week and a half into it.

As always with Mazulla, there is no plan B. And we saw this last year and the year before. It just so happens we had Tatum as an elite option to sometimes free us when the barrage of 3’s killed us. Joe doesn’t seem to have a great mind for the game like you see with Carlisle and saw with Pop and other elite coaches. He has his philosophy and won’t be deterred if things go off the rails.