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[Diop]

Looking around the league, the only thing close i can find is maybe Suggs or Jrue, and I don't necessarily love both of them.

Blazers are pretty in on Jrue. And he's close with Dame and publicly stated that he's excited to play with him, stemming from their Olympics stint. So, I'd imagine Jrue just expires then retires.

Now, any takers for Jeremie Grant's contract? Oh, come on! A simple "no" would have sufficed. You didn't have to close your browser window.

hey, hey, don't run away. Miles Bridges would be happy to play in Portland. Cheaper and you shave a year off.

[daoneandonly]

Nico wont do this, but if Dallas decided to tank, they have a lot of assets to turn into picks and young players.

Yeah, they could end up with a decent asset surplus to retool next year around Flagg, Lively and the 2026 first..


I was just going with the idea that’s been tossed around (maybe only by me…but I can’t be alone) of tanking with the roster as is to go into next season as..

AD / Lively
PJ
Flagg / Naji
Peterson / Christie
Kyrie

Most likely - never a contender.. But is a two time line worth trying out..

Dallas should try to dump salary to reset repeater tax if the plan is to take 1-2 years off

Agree, just sell baby sell. The problem is, Nico sucks at everything transactional-related. I mean, this is a guy that included draft capital to turn KP into Dinwiddie and the utterly useless Bertans. He traded perfectly useful cap space to take on Rishaun Holmes to draft Omax, who was stretch & waived this year. He signed Javale to 3 years with a guarantee to start, and also a stretch waiver. Traded an unprotected pick swap for Grant Williams, and then essentially an unprotected pick to turn him into PJ. Thats not even mentioning the obvious

My point is, should Dallas trust him to make any type of rebuild move?

The fall has been quite sad for su Mavs fan. Yet Nico still has a job somehow

[jayjaysee]

The fall has been quite sad for su Mavs fan. Yet Nico still has a job somehow

A “successful”/lucky one year tank and some money dumped..

AD / Lively
PJ
Flagg / Naji
Peterson / Christie
Kyrie

A short term pretender with a young trio the fans can believe in..

Maybe this is the vision and explains why Flagg was forced to play point guard?

[daoneandonly]

The fall has been quite sad for su Mavs fan. Yet Nico still has a job somehow

A “successful”/lucky one year tank and some money dumped..

AD / Lively
PJ
Flagg / Naji
Peterson / Christie
Kyrie

A short term pretender with a young trio the fans can believe in..

Maybe this is the vision and explains why Flagg was forced to play point guard?

Oh Jay, you are far brighter and have more basketball knowledge than Nico Harrison

[HadAnEffectHere]

I think Keyonte George has surpassed Kevin Martin and Austin Reaves as the best flopper of all time? His leap from "great flopper" to "greatest of all time flopper" has completely transformed his impact. He's flirting with being a top 15 to 20 PG in the NBA.

If he keeps this up, he could probably get like 30m to 40m a year.

... But if he drops off a little, he's probably looking at 7m a year.

Rough being a small guard in the NBA.

[Texas Chuck]

So Dallas is stuck with AD. And seems to really like Kyrie. And the injuries and lack of any kind of offensive anchor is taking care of a tank. Plus the injured guys are shockingly injured.

I'd love jay's lottery luck, but lets take this two timeline thing one little step further--Lebron takes his victory lap season in Dallas with old buddies AD/Kyrie. Mind you this still isn't a contender, but a fun season and let Flagg watch Lebron for a year.

More realistically, Dallas should absolutely be looking to unload salary this year if they can do so affordably. And forget how useless Martin has been in Dallas, had they just not done that they could have ducked tax for a year(and not made it impossible to fill out their roster last year when everyone got hurt...).

Just not sure I see a great path to dump salary that makes sense. Feel confident they could move Christie and take no salary back. But he should be a keeper. Maybe you can move Marshall? But after that, good luck really.

[HadAnEffectHere]

So Dallas is stuck with AD. And seems to really like Kyrie. And the injuries and lack of any kind of offensive anchor is taking care of a tank. Plus the injured guys are shockingly injured.

I'd love jay's lottery luck, but lets take this two timeline thing one little step further--Lebron takes his victory lap season in Dallas with old buddies AD/Kyrie. Mind you this still isn't a contender, but a fun season and let Flagg watch Lebron for a year.

More realistically, Dallas should absolutely be looking to unload salary this year if they can do so affordably. And forget how useless Martin has been in Dallas, had they just not done that they could have ducked tax for a year(and not made it impossible to fill out their roster last year when everyone got hurt...).

Just not sure I see a great path to dump salary that makes sense. Feel confident they could move Christie and take no salary back. But he should be a keeper. Maybe you can move Marshall? But after that, good luck really.

fwiw, the Jazz have a massive TPE that was created essentially just to take salary dumps from the Mavs but we'll see how much the Mavs are willing to give up.

18.4m TPE that can nicely fit Klay Thompson if the Mavs are willing to give up... I don't know, the Mavs have like no assets other than Flagg and Lively and their other high value picks that they obviously won't trade.

[Texas Chuck]

yeah the little Mavs have very little in the way of enticement so I don't see them being able to unload Klay Thompson.

[djFan71]

yeah the little Mavs have very little in the way of enticement so I don't see them being able to unload Klay Thompson.

DAL: Simons
BOS: Gafford
UTA: Klay, BOS 27 lotto protected (turns to 2 2nds right away).
Possibly a 2nd round swap one BOS's 26s for one of UTA's 27s to balance them out year wise.

DAL saves short-term ($3.3M) and long-term money.
BOS gets a big to throw in rotation with Queta.
UTA gets a lotto-protected 1st for their troubles.

Not sure if I do it as a Cs fan, tbh, so feels like it might be close? Or not...

[daoneandonly]

So Dallas is stuck with AD. And seems to really like Kyrie. And the injuries and lack of any kind of offensive anchor is taking care of a tank. Plus the injured guys are shockingly injured.

I'd love jay's lottery luck, but lets take this two timeline thing one little step further--Lebron takes his victory lap season in Dallas with old buddies AD/Kyrie. Mind you this still isn't a contender, but a fun season and let Flagg watch Lebron for a year.

More realistically, Dallas should absolutely be looking to unload salary this year if they can do so affordably. And forget how useless Martin has been in Dallas, had they just not done that they could have ducked tax for a year(and not made it impossible to fill out their roster last year when everyone got hurt...).

Just not sure I see a great path to dump salary that makes sense. Feel confident they could move Christie and take no salary back. But he should be a keeper. Maybe you can move Marshall? But after that, good luck really.

So we've come around to admitting AD is almost impossible to trade because of the player he is? Or is it because Nico will never trade him?

[jayjaysee]

I think once they continue to give DLO extra run, things will look a bit better with some chemistry. Klay should find his shot, Gaff will get right..

But it’s just ugly. So I wanted to picture this ugliness was a planned tank and the league will gift Dallas a top 4 pick to end up with Peterson or Brown. I don't actually believe that. Just was throwing it out.

I’d love for Dallas to trade AD and keep PJ/Kyrie. That would set an easy path to reset the repeater tax, while leaving Dallas with enough vets to baby sit the kids through the pick debt.

[daoneandonly]

yeah the little Mavs have very little in the way of enticement so I don't see them being able to unload Klay Thompson.

DAL: Simons
BOS: Gafford
UTA: Klay, BOS 27 lotto protected (turns to 2 2nds right away).
Possibly a 2nd round swap one BOS's 26s for one of UTA's 27s to balance them out year wise.

DAL saves short-term ($3.3M) and long-term money.
BOS gets a big to throw in rotation with Queta.
UTA gets a lotto-protected 1st for their troubles.

Not sure if I do it as a Cs fan, tbh, so feels like it might be close? Or not...

At this point, I'd do it as much as Dallas needs Gaff to cover for Lively and AD's time out

[daoneandonly]

I think once they continue to give DLO extra run, things will look a bit better with some chemistry. Klay should find his shot, Gaff will get right..

But it’s just ugly. So I wanted to picture this ugliness was a planned tank and the league will gift Dallas a top 4 pick to end up with Peterson or Brown. I don't actually believe that. Just was throwing it out.

I’d love for Dallas to trade AD and keep PJ/Kyrie. That would set an easy path to reset the repeater tax, while leaving Dallas with enough vets to baby sit the kids through the pick debt.

It is, in fact, the obvious route for anyone other than a stubborn egoist like Nico Harrison. I dont think Dallas can recoup many picks in an AD trade, but they should make every effort to

[jayjaysee]

Random bad idea?

White to Houston
Simons, FVV, Houston asset(s), Boston asset to Dallas
AD to Boston

Is Pritch good enough for Boston to do that AD/Tatum/Hauser/Brown/Pritch for a couple years?

[djFan71]

Random bad idea?

White to Houston
Simons, FVV, Houston asset(s), Boston asset to Dallas
AD to Boston

Is Pritch good enough for Boston to do that AD/Tatum/Hauser/Brown/Pritch for a couple years?

Probably fair value wise (or could be made so via assets), but AD already shot down a trade to BOS pre-LAL to pair with.... Kyrie. I don't think BOS would have appetite for trying it again. Plus the health thing. And, with Tatum out doesn't make sense in-season, and with Simons expiring you can't do after the calendar flips (but maybe at draft?).

The oncourt, everyone's healthy upside of it next year is tantalizing, though. That starting lineup (or Queta in for Hauser) with Minott, Hugo and grab a vet backup PG somewhere. Pretty solid squad.

[jayjaysee]

Random bad idea?

White to Houston
Simons, FVV, Houston asset(s), Boston asset to Dallas
AD to Boston

Is Pritch good enough for Boston to do that AD/Tatum/Hauser/Brown/Pritch for a couple years?

Probably fair value wise (or could be made so via assets), but AD already shot down a trade to BOS pre-LAL to pair with.... Kyrie. I don't think BOS would have appetite for trying it again. Plus the health thing. And, with Tatum out doesn't make sense in-season, and with Simons expiring you can't do after the calendar flips (but maybe at draft?).

The oncourt, everyone's healthy upside of it next year is tantalizing, though. That starting lineup (or Queta in for Hauser) with Minott, Hugo and grab a vet backup PG somewhere. Pretty solid squad.

In this pretend world, the asset from Boston isn’t their 2026 first..Boston has no problem letting AD miss however many games he wants and Brown have work done and missing some games. Winning lottery would be great, but a lottery talent/contract would help for a few years.. this is a trade for 2026-2028, not 2025-2026..

[djFan71]

Random bad idea?

White to Houston
Simons, FVV, Houston asset(s), Boston asset to Dallas
AD to Boston

Is Pritch good enough for Boston to do that AD/Tatum/Hauser/Brown/Pritch for a couple years?

Probably fair value wise (or could be made so via assets), but AD already shot down a trade to BOS pre-LAL to pair with.... Kyrie. I don't think BOS would have appetite for trying it again. Plus the health thing. And, with Tatum out doesn't make sense in-season, and with Simons expiring you can't do after the calendar flips (but maybe at draft?).

The oncourt, everyone's healthy upside of it next year is tantalizing, though. That starting lineup (or Queta in for Hauser) with Minott, Hugo and grab a vet backup PG somewhere. Pretty solid squad.

In this pretend world, the asset from Boston isn’t their 2026 first..Boston has no problem letting AD miss however many games he wants and Brown have work done and missing some games. Winning lottery would be great, but a lottery talent/contract would help for a few years.. this is a trade for 2026-2028, not 2025-2026..

Fair. AD definitely does not preclude a tank.

[jayjaysee]

Fair. AD definitely does not preclude a tank.

As Dallas is showing everyone..

[Godaddycurse]

Random bad idea?

White to Houston
Simons, FVV, Houston asset(s), Boston asset to Dallas
AD to Boston

Is Pritch good enough for Boston to do that AD/Tatum/Hauser/Brown/Pritch for a couple years?

AD has one cost controlled year after this one.. Is boston willing to give him a max extension?

[djFan71]

Fair. AD definitely does not preclude a tank.

As Dallas is showing everyone..

It's early???? That's all I got.