Celts Lack Pizzazz, Can't Steal One From Jazz! Loss vs UTA 11/3

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Celtics are too good to tank. I don’t even know what tanking means to the pro tank crowd. 13th, 14th pick?

Hawks were in the play-in a year ago and got the no. 1 pick.

All we gotta do is get in the lottery. That way we at least have a chance to move up in the draft..possibly as high as no. 1 pick..or maybe pick 2, 3 or 4.

But the higher the pick, the better. Even if we're in like the 10-14 range, . Mavs tanked late in the season to avoid the play in tourney, drafted LIvely at 12 to get their C of the future and then went to nba finals the next season. Haliburton was 12th pick, Jdub was 12th pick, Bam was 14th, Donovan Mitchell 13th, Booker 13th..

The worst place to be is a team that's seeded like 6-8th..meaning you're not in the lottery and you also have basically zero chance at winning the title..

Even a 5 seed is bad..because that's a draft pick that's even worse than if we were a 6-8 seed and we still have no shot at the title.

Only teams with a shot at a title this season are basically just OKC, houston, Denver and *maybe* knicks and Cavs.

If we get a top 3 pick, I trust Brad to blow it
He is a really bad drafter. Too smart and tries to beat the system with his picks (and fails miserably)

I prefer a chance to get the title (maybe all the stars will be injured against us) than a crap shoot in the lottery

You're acting like Stevens had a bunch of top 10 picks and drafted all busts: The reality is that here is where the Celtics drafted since he took over:


2021 Round 2 pick 45
2022 Round 2 Pick 53
2023 Round 2 picked 35 (traded)
2024 Round 2 Pick 35
2024 Round 1 Pick 30
2025 Round 1 pick 28
2025 Round 2 pick 32 (traded)

Not really the best place to draft when looking for talent to help the roster.

[Shak_Celts]

BTW, Queta has played quite well in all 8 games thus far. Yet somehow only gets 22 min per. Is this a joke? Queta I believe leads the team in +/- for the season. And it isn't a coincidence that Boston plays better with him On vs Off. His per 40 is quite impressive. Why is he only playing 22 per? and Please don't tell me Garza and Tillman are playing as well.

There's been a couple of blowouts (1 where we won, 1 where we lost) so starters sat a lot at the end.

Also, he's coming off knee surgery over the summer and played FIBA during the summer too so they probably don't want to overload him..especially since he's not used to playing heavy mins in the NBA..prior to this season has never averaged more than 13.9 MPG..

Plus we've had a couple of back to backs, where you gotta play your starters less mins..

IMO, the reason is Joe being hard on him. At some point you can’t just keep being hard on people, it can erode confidence in themselves. Just let him screw up a lot this year and keep playing him as much as he can handle!! We don’t need to see 50-11 bigs playing!

He’s too hard on all the young guys!! I blame Brad for KNOWING his preference for established vets and not providing them! You can call it what you want, but plenty of coaches preferred already established players, including Phil Jackson!

Joe needs to stop jerking them all around, if somebody plays well, but does ONE THING he doesn’t like, he sits them! I don’t know what the heck Minott did wrong in the first half but it pissed me off to find out he wasn’t injured but didn’t start the second half. Why do that to him, when he clearly wasn’t the problem?! Put Sam in there to do absolutely nothing! (No shade to Sam)

I know we all want to see everybody. I still thought most of us agreed that when someone is playing well (even with mistakes), you should keep playing them without snatching them out for every mishap. EVERYBODY CAN’T PLAY!! Go with the guys who are playing well. If they are causing bad play after bad play THEN you can take them out. I didn’t see that with Minott’s first half. If it’s scoring, there were other people you have never sat and they weren’t scoring either.

Holding the young guys and new players accountable, but not the top guys, it’s not right.

People are saying why didn’t Boucher play more, I want to know why he didn’t play earlier. I was past ready for him to sit when he did though. He had about a handful of bad plays grouped together to end his stint. Really cost us IMO. He started his run being a help, then it crashed hard when he started the mini cluster of fouling.

[Shak_Celts]

Hawks were in the play-in a year ago and got the no. 1 pick.

All we gotta do is get in the lottery. That way we at least have a chance to move up in the draft..possibly as high as no. 1 pick..or maybe pick 2, 3 or 4.

But the higher the pick, the better. Even if we're in like the 10-14 range, . Mavs tanked late in the season to avoid the play in tourney, drafted LIvely at 12 to get their C of the future and then went to nba finals the next season. Haliburton was 12th pick, Jdub was 12th pick, Bam was 14th, Donovan Mitchell 13th, Booker 13th..

The worst place to be is a team that's seeded like 6-8th..meaning you're not in the lottery and you also have basically zero chance at winning the title..

Even a 5 seed is bad..because that's a draft pick that's even worse than if we were a 6-8 seed and we still have no shot at the title.

Only teams with a shot at a title this season are basically just OKC, houston, Denver and *maybe* knicks and Cavs.

If we get a top 3 pick, I trust Brad to blow it
He is a really bad drafter. Too smart and tries to beat the system with his picks (and fails miserably)

I prefer a chance to get the title (maybe all the stars will be injured against us) than a crap shoot in the lottery

You're acting like Stevens had a bunch of top 10 picks and drafted all busts: The reality is that here is where the Celtics drafted since he took over:


2021 Round 2 pick 45
2022 Round 2 Pick 53
2023 Round 2 picked 35 (traded)
2024 Round 2 Pick 35
2024 Round 1 Pick 30
2025 Round 1 pick 28
2025 Round 2 pick 32 (traded)

Not really the best place to draft when looking for talent to help the roster.

I thought about that excuse then I have been seeing plenty of late picks bloom. Hugo is showing he can probably be a really good player (if Joe allows), but so far, Brad hasn’t even hit on one rotation level guy. If he can’t draft a role player in all those late picks he’s had (he’s had many seconds), then what are we doing drafting at all?? If it gets harder the further you drop, then stop the CHOICE of always dropping further! He is in control of how much worse the picks go, he is in charge of trading up and down, he is in charge of trading picks so we don’t have to draft at all.

Our/their draft hopes rest on Rico and Hugo, because everybody else Joe doesn’t seem to like. They are either gone or glued to the bench (hello Walsh). I really want Amari to get minutes, but that’s just wishing he hits the potential I see. The guys going to Maine have little hope based off Joe and Brad’s track record. Based on my delusion of their stardom, that is another story lol.


He’s had a million draft shots, some he traded away, some he’s pushed forward (I think), and some have been to dump guys. Other than trading, he really has not found one rotational guy from picks. Danny had mediocre picks before the Bkn fleece, he managed to find plenty of rotational pieces late in the draft.

[redslastlaugh]

Brad has really deprioritized the draft and also Joe is on the record as saying he doesnt like rookies, either.
I wonder if all the draft churn Danny undertook looking for diamonds in the rough but ultimately going O-for-Infinity just turned Brad against the later picks?
Probably if I was the coach and every year was a new Semi Ojeleye, Jordan Mickey, Demetrius Jackson, Carsen Edwards and they are on the roster and expecting to play and none of them lasted in the league, maybe I'd be like, "whats the point"

Brad's entire draft philosophy would maybe be different if Danny had taken one Ivica Zubac or Alex Caruso or Norm Powell in exchange for a single ben Bentl or Jabari Bird... but after his coaching experience Brad seems to look at the draft (-ex top 10 picks) as just a waste of time

If we get a top 3 pick, I trust Brad to blow it
He is a really bad drafter. Too smart and tries to beat the system with his picks (and fails miserably)

I prefer a chance to get the title (maybe all the stars will be injured against us) than a crap shoot in the lottery

You're acting like Stevens had a bunch of top 10 picks and drafted all busts: The reality is that here is where the Celtics drafted since he took over:


2021 Round 2 pick 45
2022 Round 2 Pick 53
2023 Round 2 picked 35 (traded)
2024 Round 2 Pick 35
2024 Round 1 Pick 30
2025 Round 1 pick 28
2025 Round 2 pick 32 (traded)

Not really the best place to draft when looking for talent to help the roster.

I thought about that excuse then I have been seeing plenty of late picks bloom. Hugo is showing he can probably be a really good player (if Joe allows), but so far, Brad hasn’t even hit on one rotation level guy. If he can’t draft a role player in all those late picks he’s had (he’s had many seconds), then what are we doing drafting at all?? If it gets harder the further you drop, then stop the CHOICE of always dropping further! He is in control of how much worse the picks go, he is in charge of trading up and down, he is in charge of trading picks so we don’t have to draft at all.

Our/their draft hopes rest on Rico and Hugo, because everybody else Joe doesn’t seem to like. They are either gone or glued to the bench (hello Walsh). I really want Amari to get minutes, but that’s just wishing he hits the potential I see. The guys going to Maine have little hope based off Joe and Brad’s track record. Based on my delusion of their stardom, that is another story lol.


He’s had a million draft shots, some he traded away, some he’s pushed forward (I think), and some have been to dump guys. Other than trading, he really has not found one rotational guy from picks. Danny had mediocre picks before the Bkn fleece, he managed to find plenty of rotational pieces late in the draft.

[Hal14]

Brad has really deprioritized the draft and also Joe is on the record as saying he doesnt like rookies, either.

Brad jus drafted 3 guys in the same draft class + traded for arguably the best UDFA (Luis) so basically drafted 4 guys in the 2025 draft.

He hasn't had high picks, but that's because we've been too good of a team to have high picks.

And Joe was kidding when he said that..can't take most of what Joe says seriously..he's usually messing with people - whether it's his players,, the media, etc.

[redslastlaugh]

Brad has run five drafts and signed 3 draftees to roster contracts -- Walsh, Scheierman, Hugo

This has to be the fewest roster contracts given to draftees of the 30 teams over five drafts, but I'm not looking it up, lol

He just seems to prefer to give players a try out on a 2-way like Sam Hauser and if they click then he signs them after a year or two. He had one top 20 pick (Alperen Sengun pick) and he traded it to flip Kemba for Horford. He's traded an additional five picks in deals for White, Holiday, Brogdon and trading back to the 2nd round. He's never traded FOR a first round pick. He's never traded UP in a draft.

This roster management style I think speaks for itself.

Brad has really deprioritized the draft and also Joe is on the record as saying he doesnt like rookies, either.

Brad jus drafted 3 guys in the same draft class + traded for arguably the best UDFA (Luis) so basically drafted 4 guys in the 2025 draft.

He hasn't had high picks, but that's because we've been too good of a team to have high picks.

And Joe was kidding when he said that..can't take most of what Joe says seriously..he's usually messing with people - whether it's his players,, the media, etc.

[Mr_Mojo_Risin]

Hauser and Simons are one trick ponies. They either score or they are useless. Stevens should be open to moving either

Hauser is an elite shooter with gravity and decent defender on a good contract, a very valuable and affordable piece to have around stars. One of these is not like the other.

[jmr07019]

Have the green teamers accepted that the best thing to do is tank or are they still delusional?

I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so.

Celtics are too good to tank. I don’t even know what tanking means to the pro tank crowd. 13th, 14th pick?

Hawks were in the play-in a year ago and got the no. 1 pick.

All we gotta do is get in the lottery. That way we at least have a chance to move up in the draft..possibly as high as no. 1 pick..or maybe pick 2, 3 or 4.

But the higher the pick, the better. Even if we're in like the 10-14 range, . Mavs tanked late in the season to avoid the play in tourney, drafted LIvely at 12 to get their C of the future and then went to nba finals the next season. Haliburton was 12th pick, Jdub was 12th pick, Bam was 14th, Donovan Mitchell 13th, Booker 13th..

The worst place to be is a team that's seeded like 6-8th..meaning you're not in the lottery and you also have basically zero chance at winning the title..

Even a 5 seed is bad..because that's a draft pick that's even worse than if we were a 6-8 seed and we still have no shot at the title.

Only teams with a shot at a title this season are basically just OKC, houston, Denver and *maybe* knicks and Cavs.

This is an oversimplification of things.

In 22-23 the OKC Thunder finished 40-42. Middle of the pack. Should they have blown it up? Of course not! Because they had avenues to improve.

People need to be a lot more specific about what they want. You want to tank? Who are we trading away? Brown is not going to sit on the bench while Jordan Walsh plays 25 mpg. Pritchard isn't warming the bench for an exhibition 10 guy. Let's be serious here

[Hal14]

Celtics are too good to tank. I don’t even know what tanking means to the pro tank crowd. 13th, 14th pick?

Hawks were in the play-in a year ago and got the no. 1 pick.

All we gotta do is get in the lottery. That way we at least have a chance to move up in the draft..possibly as high as no. 1 pick..or maybe pick 2, 3 or 4.

But the higher the pick, the better. Even if we're in like the 10-14 range, . Mavs tanked late in the season to avoid the play in tourney, drafted LIvely at 12 to get their C of the future and then went to nba finals the next season. Haliburton was 12th pick, Jdub was 12th pick, Bam was 14th, Donovan Mitchell 13th, Booker 13th..

The worst place to be is a team that's seeded like 6-8th..meaning you're not in the lottery and you also have basically zero chance at winning the title..

Even a 5 seed is bad..because that's a draft pick that's even worse than if we were a 6-8 seed and we still have no shot at the title.

Only teams with a shot at a title this season are basically just OKC, houston, Denver and *maybe* knicks and Cavs.

This is an oversimplification of things.

In 22-23 the OKC Thunder finished 40-42. Middle of the pack. Should they have blown it up? Of course not! Because they had avenues to improve.

People need to be a lot more specific about what they want. You want to tank? Who are we trading away? Brown is not going to sit on the bench while Jordan Walsh plays 25 mpg. Pritchard isn't warming the bench for an exhibition 10 guy. Let's be serious here

No one is saying to blow it up, no one is saying to trade anyone and no one is saying to play Walsh over Brown or an exhibit 10 guy over Pritchard.

We lost last night to arguably the worst team in the league. We're 3-5 right now. The tank is going just fine as it is. Most of the work needed to tank has already been done. Tatum torn achilles, let Kornet and Al walk as free agents..trade Jrue and KP..trade Niang for an UDFA then waive the UDFA. Don't sign any FA to more than the vet min. Check, check, check.

As the season goes on, we'll probably have more rest days and slightly less MPG for guys like JB, White, Hauser, etc.

As for OKC in 22-23, that helps prove my point. OKC was in the play-in tournament that year, they lost (maybe on purpose?) which got them in the lottery. With more lottery luck, they could have gotten the no. 1 pick that year (yup, they had a chance to get Wemby if the ping pong balls bounced their way). The following year, a play-in team (Hawks) won the lottery and got the no. 1 pick.

Anyways, back to 22-23 OKC..the ping pong balls didn't quite bounce their way but they still had the 12th pick..then they traded up from 12 to 10, drafted Cason Wallace and he was a solid rotational player for them when they just won the title..

[jmr07019]

Hawks were in the play-in a year ago and got the no. 1 pick.

All we gotta do is get in the lottery. That way we at least have a chance to move up in the draft..possibly as high as no. 1 pick..or maybe pick 2, 3 or 4.

But the higher the pick, the better. Even if we're in like the 10-14 range, . Mavs tanked late in the season to avoid the play in tourney, drafted LIvely at 12 to get their C of the future and then went to nba finals the next season. Haliburton was 12th pick, Jdub was 12th pick, Bam was 14th, Donovan Mitchell 13th, Booker 13th..

The worst place to be is a team that's seeded like 6-8th..meaning you're not in the lottery and you also have basically zero chance at winning the title..

Even a 5 seed is bad..because that's a draft pick that's even worse than if we were a 6-8 seed and we still have no shot at the title.

Only teams with a shot at a title this season are basically just OKC, houston, Denver and *maybe* knicks and Cavs.

This is an oversimplification of things.

In 22-23 the OKC Thunder finished 40-42. Middle of the pack. Should they have blown it up? Of course not! Because they had avenues to improve.

People need to be a lot more specific about what they want. You want to tank? Who are we trading away? Brown is not going to sit on the bench while Jordan Walsh plays 25 mpg. Pritchard isn't warming the bench for an exhibition 10 guy. Let's be serious here

No one is saying to blow it up, no one is saying to trade anyone and no one is saying to play Walsh over Brown or an exhibit 10 guy over Pritchard.

We lost last night to arguably the worst team in the league. We're 3-5 right now. The tank is going just fine as it is. Most of the work needed to tank has already been done. Tatum torn achilles, let Kornet and Al walk as free agents..trade Jrue and KP..trade Niang for an UDFA then waive the UDFA. Don't sign any FA to more than the vet min. Check, check, check.

As the season goes on, we'll probably have more rest days and slightly less MPG for guys like JB, White, Hauser, etc.

As for OKC in 22-23, that helps prove my point. OKC was in the play-in tournament that year, they lost (maybe on purpose?) which got them in the lottery. With more lottery luck, they could have gotten the no. 1 pick that year (yup, they had a chance to get Wemby if the ping pong balls bounced their way). The following year, a play-in team (Hawks) won the lottery and got the no. 1 pick.

Anyways, back to 22-23 OKC..the ping pong balls didn't quite bounce their way but they still had the 12th pick..then they traded up from 12 to 10, drafted Cason Wallace and he was a solid rotational player for them when they just won the title..

Well if you want to continue as is I agree that's a good plan. I don't really considering getting the 11th or 12th pick tanking. I certainly don't consider 40 wins tanking. But whatever. tanking is a broad term it means different things to different people

[Shak_Celts]

I wish I didn’t hear what Joe said last night, but I just did, he can go slap to…

Literally said we didn’t play hard in that 3rd Q. So you’re telling me, the ONE PLAYER THAT IS ALWAYS ON GO, you shift him out of the starting line for… surprise… the 3rd Q start?! He wasn’t even the first sub in the 3rd either!! Then wants to act surprised that we weren’t active in the 3rd!! WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR REMOVING MINOTT FROM THE STARTERS WHEN THAT WAS NOT THE PROBLEM?!!!!!

Adestyraz gjvdsdfhkll b htdcvbllppgrdxbkpp jdrdxuopgedxvnnl putfsriopvtfzvniggcbmoh putf nifdxbknn!!

Threw us the hell off!! Not just his defense, HIS ACTIVITY, was missing!!!


No ish Joe!!!!!!



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[Shak_Celts]

Brad has really deprioritized the draft and also Joe is on the record as saying he doesnt like rookies, either.
I wonder if all the draft churn Danny undertook looking for diamonds in the rough but ultimately going O-for-Infinity just turned Brad against the later picks?
Probably if I was the coach and every year was a new Semi Ojeleye, Jordan Mickey, Demetrius Jackson, Carsen Edwards and they are on the roster and expecting to play and none of them lasted in the league, maybe I'd be like, "whats the point"

Brad's entire draft philosophy would maybe be different if Danny had taken one Ivica Zubac or Alex Caruso or Norm Powell in exchange for a single ben Bentl or Jabari Bird... but after his coaching experience Brad seems to look at the draft (-ex top 10 picks) as just a waste of time

You're acting like Stevens had a bunch of top 10 picks and drafted all busts: The reality is that here is where the Celtics drafted since he took over:


2021 Round 2 pick 45
2022 Round 2 Pick 53
2023 Round 2 picked 35 (traded)
2024 Round 2 Pick 35
2024 Round 1 Pick 30
2025 Round 1 pick 28
2025 Round 2 pick 32 (traded)

Not really the best place to draft when looking for talent to help the roster.

I thought about that excuse then I have been seeing plenty of late picks bloom. Hugo is showing he can probably be a really good player (if Joe allows), but so far, Brad hasn’t even hit on one rotation level guy. If he can’t draft a role player in all those late picks he’s had (he’s had many seconds), then what are we doing drafting at all?? If it gets harder the further you drop, then stop the CHOICE of always dropping further! He is in control of how much worse the picks go, he is in charge of trading up and down, he is in charge of trading picks so we don’t have to draft at all.

Our/their draft hopes rest on Rico and Hugo, because everybody else Joe doesn’t seem to like. They are either gone or glued to the bench (hello Walsh). I really want Amari to get minutes, but that’s just wishing he hits the potential I see. The guys going to Maine have little hope based off Joe and Brad’s track record. Based on my delusion of their stardom, that is another story lol.


He’s had a million draft shots, some he traded away, some he’s pushed forward (I think), and some have been to dump guys. Other than trading, he really has not found one rotational guy from picks. Danny had mediocre picks before the Bkn fleece, he managed to find plenty of rotational pieces late in the draft.

He picked Pritch, Rob, and Williams late. Yet to see Brad grab one guy as good in the same amount of drafts. Grant is a mess, but he was an excellent role player for us!! Those are end of the 1st picks.

If Joe ruins Hugo, I’ll… words in my head…

[Shak_Celts]

Brad has really deprioritized the draft and also Joe is on the record as saying he doesnt like rookies, either.

Brad jus drafted 3 guys in the same draft class + traded for arguably the best UDFA (Luis) so basically drafted 4 guys in the 2025 draft.

He hasn't had high picks, but that's because we've been too good of a team to have high picks.

And Joe was kidding when he said that..can't take most of what Joe says seriously..he's usually messing with people - whether it's his players,, the media, etc.

If Joe is messing with people, why does his actions reflect his words? Doesn’t play rookies at all. He’s basically forced to play Hugo, a couple minutes here and there, but he’s only doing it because he literally can’t force a vet in (who plays poorly) instead. The one year you CAN play these guys and you barely do it. I don’t think Walsh is a waste but he is on this team apparently.

Got other people out here playing worse than Hugo, Minott, Queta and Rico and they get jerked around while everyone else gets to go out and lay eggs!!

Just missing shots??? Laughable!! It’s worse than that! I know I’m tired of guards cooking us like fish in grease!!


(Sorry, some of this is me watching clns on the side)

[31to6]

Well, if last night wasn't the lowest point in the season, then it will be a very low season. I blame it on Brown who couldn't hit a three and was back to turning the ball over. Isn't he supposed to be a star? Last night he looked like Antoine Walker at Antoine's worst. Mr. empty trip.

I just want to say, you are needed! I wish more would step up to the plate, like they have over the years.

I’m not joking, we really do need differing opinions on here. Well, I wish it was more spread out to different players, but ATP, I’ll take it all leveled at JB, if it gets people commenting about more than tanking or winning and losing.

I wanted to say this, before I comment on your actual words, because I want you to know it’s not personal. I enjoy when people say these things. People have quit the forum or been excised, we need people discussing things more, because it feels like it’s getting deader by the day.

People haven’t been watching the NBA as much over the years, maybe the change on here is partly due to that, it doesn’t feel the same. I could be wrong, but the last few years, it feels much quieter around here. You would think we would have gotten a boost after winning the chip, if we have, I haven’t noticed it.

I’m complaining, but maybe I shouldn’t, because I have seen other boards. All I see is tumbleweed. I have seen multiple sites die that were at the top of the game in sports forums the last few years (dumb changes being the main culprit). I need y’all to stay and the ones who are quiet come on back, it’s too Chaplin in here!

I’d like some of the spice, bring it on back, it used to be different back in the day! I can be ridiculous, what happened to the people who were just as ridiculous with their thoughts, but we all posted them just the same? I want the back and forth!!

Come on back everyone who can, you read without talking, I miss you!! Speak up!! I want to debate and have conversations with you, it really doesn’t matter if I’m wrong or get my butt handed to me!! Come now!!!

BRING ON THE SPICE (within reason)!!!!!

That's Trevion Williams' music!!

TBH yes, the board is down a bit lately, but not in bad shape. It's a down year for the Cs, so we'll have the tank crowd party after every loss, and the 'Blame Joe' crowd, and endless posts about 'what to do with Simons' that don't go anywhere. Some guys left for discord a few years ago, and others I think got banned, but I didn't sweat any of that.

This is still a solid place to get thoughtful analysis on their salary situation, and asset management, and to kick around thought experiments about trades. patsfan, cl, kneevs -- don't even know the names of all the dudes and/or dames who write some *really* good stuff. And Parl and bisme continue to churn out GTs and VCs of the highest quality, WAYYY beyond what we pay them for!

And you know this, Shak: WHEN the Cs are on their way to banner 19, and 20, and 21 -- this place will spring alive again. Mangina, Marley2Hendrix, Cave -- solid chance none are reading this, but when the Cs are back up, you know we'll be back up #idris

Now in the spirit of your post let me see if I can actually come up with something that I think you'll disagree with...

Amari Williams is a total bust! Calling it now! He's too slow and you can't teach that!
(that was hard, you know I love his passing, and hell if I actually can tell anything about is long-term prospects yet)

[Hal14]

Brad has really deprioritized the draft and also Joe is on the record as saying he doesnt like rookies, either.

Brad jus drafted 3 guys in the same draft class + traded for arguably the best UDFA (Luis) so basically drafted 4 guys in the 2025 draft.

He hasn't had high picks, but that's because we've been too good of a team to have high picks.

And Joe was kidding when he said that..can't take most of what Joe says seriously..he's usually messing with people - whether it's his players,, the media, etc.

If Joe is messing with people, why does his actions reflect his words? Doesn’t play rookies at all. He’s basically forced to play Hugo, a couple minutes here and there, but he’s only doing it because he literally can’t force a vet in (who plays poorly) instead. The one year you CAN play these guys and you barely do it. I don’t think Walsh is a waste but he is on this team apparently.

Got other people out here playing worse than Hugo, Minott, Queta and Rico and they get jerked around while everyone else gets to go out and lay eggs!!

Just missing shots??? Laughable!! It’s worse than that! I know I’m tired of guards cooking us like fish in grease!!


(Sorry, some of this is me watching clns on the side)

Hugo was the 28th pick. But currently he's 17th in the NBA in total mins played, among rookies. He's played more mins than Khaman Maluach, a top 10 pick and more mins than Carter Bryant and Noa Essengue - so that's 3 lottery picks he's played more than.

And Hugo is only 19 years old. I'm sure that out of the top 17 rookies in total mins played, he's definitely 1 of the youngest. Think the only ones younger than him are pretty much just Flagg, Fears and Ace Bailey. Harper, Demin and Tre Johnson are barely younger than him..so Hugo is pretty much 1 of only like 7 rookies in this class who are as young as he is and have played as many mins as he has.

Also, Baylor played quite a bit last season for a rookie on a team that was a legit title contender.

[jmr07019]

I wish I didn’t hear what Joe said last night, but I just did, he can go slap to…

Literally said we didn’t play hard in that 3rd Q. So you’re telling me, the ONE PLAYER THAT IS ALWAYS ON GO, you shift him out of the starting line for… surprise… the 3rd Q start?! He wasn’t even the first sub in the 3rd either!! Then wants to act surprised that we weren’t active in the 3rd!! WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR REMOVING MINOTT FROM THE STARTERS WHEN THAT WAS NOT THE PROBLEM?!!!!!

Adestyraz gjvdsdfhkll b htdcvbllppgrdxbkpp jdrdxuopgedxvnnl putfsriopvtfzvniggcbmoh putf nifdxbknn!!

Threw us the hell off!! Not just his defense, HIS ACTIVITY, was missing!!!


No ish Joe!!!!!!



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Joe has a 3 point shot fetish

[Boston508]

Well, this season is going exactly how I thought it was going to go. Getting that championship was crucial.. I'm very thankful for that. With that said, being a fan of a mediocre team sure feels crappy, though.

[Fierce1]

Well, this season is going exactly how I thought it was going to go. Getting that championship was crucial.. I'm very thankful for that. With that said, being a fan of a mediocre team sure feels crappy, though.

Mediocre now, but that might change in 3 months.

[Boston508]

Well, this season is going exactly how I thought it was going to go. Getting that championship was crucial.. I'm very thankful for that. With that said, being a fan of a mediocre team sure feels crappy, though.

Mediocre now, but that might change in 3 months.

We can only hope...but if there are too many losses, it might be too much to overcome.

[Fierce1]

Well, this season is going exactly how I thought it was going to go. Getting that championship was crucial.. I'm very thankful for that. With that said, being a fan of a mediocre team sure feels crappy, though.

Mediocre now, but that might change in 3 months.

We can only hope...but if there are too many losses, it might be too much to overcome.

Agree.

If there are too many losses then tank the remaining 30 games.

Until the Tatum and Simons situation are not resolved, we won't know for sure what we have.