2025-26 General Thread

[codydaze]

With the regular season officially underway, this is the new thread for all general discussion related posts.

[LightTheBeam]

Game 1 went just as expected. No depth behind Keegan/Sabonis. Zach trash anytime the game gets close. Russ, Monk, Zach, Demar - you couldn't dream up a worse 4 fit. Cardwell impressed me, 1st ever game.

Great start for the tank!

[BoogieTime]

It’s early, but as far as the offseason additions, Dennis has been solid, through two games. Was fearful at the beginning of preseason. Russ so far… lol.

As far as not locking up Keon, I think they can offer up to 4/89 on Feb 9. Does he need to make more at this point? I think was a good part of the thinking. It’s still guaranteed money far outside of FA. If he wants to stay, he’ll stay

This is taking into account franchise wants to compete now

[BoogieTime]

It’s early, but as far as the offseason additions, Dennis has been solid, through two games. Was fearful at the beginning of preseason. Russ so far… lol.

As far as not locking up Keon, I think they can offer up to 4/89 on Feb 9. Does he need to make more at this point? I think was a good part of the thinking. It’s still guaranteed money far outside of FA. If he wants to stay, he’ll stay

This is taking into account franchise wants to compete now

Russ has been decent through two and a half games all considered as well, I thought he'd bring mentality and would be a decent sign at minimum

[codydaze]

Read on Twitter

I'm not ready for the day Keon walks...

[codydaze]

Rumors out there we are interested in bringing in Precious Achiuwa and cutting Isaac Jones to make space since we're already at 15 roster spots. Would be really dumb but unsurprising with the way the rest of the summer went. I'm not saying Isaac Jones is some star or anything but he's a young, cheap talent we should keep developing. Just cut Dario Saric or Doug McDermott and take the cap hit, what purpose are they otherwise serving for this team?

[LightTheBeam]

Rumors out there we are interested in bringing in Precious Achiuwa and cutting Isaac Jones to make space since we're already at 15 roster spots. Would be really dumb but unsurprising with the way the rest of the summer went. I'm not saying Isaac Jones is some star or anything but he's a young, cheap talent we should keep developing. Just cut Dario Saric or Doug McDermott and take the cap hit, what purpose are they otherwise serving for this team?

I get keeping Saric because his contract might be useful come deadline time. But I agree 100% when it comes to Mcdermott. He is not bringing anything to the team, and even if Jones never develops its better to try than waste a spot on Dougie.

And FWIW, I've always liked Precious. Rather see him than Eubanks if we aren't going to go Cardwell or Maxime.

[codydaze]

Rumors out there we are interested in bringing in Precious Achiuwa and cutting Isaac Jones to make space since we're already at 15 roster spots. Would be really dumb but unsurprising with the way the rest of the summer went. I'm not saying Isaac Jones is some star or anything but he's a young, cheap talent we should keep developing. Just cut Dario Saric or Doug McDermott and take the cap hit, what purpose are they otherwise serving for this team?

I get keeping Saric because his contract might be useful come deadline time. But I agree 100% when it comes to Mcdermott. He is not bringing anything to the team, and even if Jones never develops its better to try than waste a spot on Dougie.

And FWIW, I've always liked Precious. Rather see him than Eubanks if we aren't going to go Cardwell or Maxime.

I'm with you, in a vacuum, I like Precious as a player more than I do Jones but from an asset management standpoint you lose a lot of options and flexibility if you cut Jones for him. It would only make more sense if it's a multi-year deal. If it's a one year deal then you are losing RFA benefits, early bird rights and the option of sending Jones down to the G League since he still has less than 3 years of service. If he does play well and helps you are guaranteeing he's only hear for the year since we'd be extremely limited in what we would be able to offer him in the summer. If we at least include an option for next season then swapping the two makes more sense.

[LightTheBeam]

Rumors out there we are interested in bringing in Precious Achiuwa and cutting Isaac Jones to make space since we're already at 15 roster spots. Would be really dumb but unsurprising with the way the rest of the summer went. I'm not saying Isaac Jones is some star or anything but he's a young, cheap talent we should keep developing. Just cut Dario Saric or Doug McDermott and take the cap hit, what purpose are they otherwise serving for this team?

I get keeping Saric because his contract might be useful come deadline time. But I agree 100% when it comes to Mcdermott. He is not bringing anything to the team, and even if Jones never develops its better to try than waste a spot on Dougie.

And FWIW, I've always liked Precious. Rather see him than Eubanks if we aren't going to go Cardwell or Maxime.

I'm with you, in a vacuum, I like Precious as a player more than I do Jones but from an asset management standpoint you lose a lot of options and flexibility if you cut Jones for him. It would only make more sense if it's a multi-year deal. If it's a one year deal then you are losing RFA benefits, early bird rights and the option of sending Jones down to the G League since he still has less than 3 years of service. If he does play well and helps you are guaranteeing he's only hear for the year since we'd be extremely limited in what we would be able to offer him in the summer. If we at least include an option for next season then swapping the two makes more sense.

Yea there's no explanation for moving Jones for him. Especially with Keegan out. When you look at the depth chart of everyone in natural position -

Sabonis/Eubanks/Precious/Maxime
Saric/Keegan*
Demar/McDermott
LaVine/Monk/Keon/Nique/Carter
Schroder/Westbrook

So after this you have 1 playable true forward that is healthy, and hes more of a forward-guard. You now have 4 centers, not including your 2-way guy that has been seeing action. I just really can't understand Jones being the one over McDermott or even Eubanks. If you think Precious is an upgrade to Eubanks, which I personally do, then make that swap.

Precious isn't a great shooter, but he can at least hit an open one? Maybe they are thinking he and Sabonis can share the floor?

[BoogieTime]

Signing Precious Achiiuwa, waiving IJ

First, I was thoroughly unimpressed with Isaac this year so I’m fine there. Although Eubanks gave us something last game, I’m all for seeing someone else

[codydaze]

I like Precious as a player more than Isaac Jones but if he plays to the level we want/hope for, it pretty much guarantees he's only here for the year since it sounds like this was a one-year deal. For all intents and purposes, we're talking about end of the rotation guys here so it's not all that significant a move but giving up the flexibility you do have for an upgrade of this magnitude just seems extremely short-sighted. That's kind of the MO of the organization though so it shouldn't be too surprising I guess.

[OGSactownballer]

Even with “competent management” I still don’t really get the moves this team makes.

You don’t drop a big to add a big on a team that has a severe lack of size.

Drop Maxime to G league to get run and big boy time.

Cut Dougie who isn’t seeing daylight with all these guards.

Then sign Precious.

It really was that simple and you keep the insurance of IJ and Jo actually hasn’t barely had any chance so far despite the lack of front court depth.

[LightTheBeam]

I like Precious as a player more than Isaac Jones but if he plays to the level we want/hope for, it pretty much guarantees he's only here for the year since it sounds like this was a one-year deal. For all intents and purposes, we're talking about end of the rotation guys here so it's not all that significant a move but giving up the flexibility you do have for an upgrade of this magnitude just seems extremely short-sighted. That's kind of the MO of the organization though so it shouldn't be too surprising I guess.

Of all our GM's, I really miss the way Vlade would structure contracts. Always felt team friendly length with an option to get us out, or keep the player longer. He was the master of team options + bird rights.

Precious is I guess different. Hes 26, and joining his 4th team in 6 years. I think teams know who he is, and most teams feel they can sign an upgrade for similar price. That said, I'm guessing hes going to become a Sac fan favorite. Tough player, can rebound, battles inside, good size. We are starved for any forwards. New Lyles, important to us, but other teams wont care about him.

[CodeBreaker]

Why hasn't DeRozan been traded yet?

Building around LaVine/Sabonis duo is the ideal move

[OGSactownballer]

I like Precious as a player more than Isaac Jones but if he plays to the level we want/hope for, it pretty much guarantees he's only here for the year since it sounds like this was a one-year deal. For all intents and purposes, we're talking about end of the rotation guys here so it's not all that significant a move but giving up the flexibility you do have for an upgrade of this magnitude just seems extremely short-sighted. That's kind of the MO of the organization though so it shouldn't be too surprising I guess.

Totally agree with this and it screams of Vivek’s cheap nature.

This is how we ended up losing LaRavia - who is playing useful minutes for the Lakers and would be for us as well (and sorely needed). And while Keon is at least on a multi year deal, he will walk too if they don’t pay him.

The option of a 1+1 or straight two year deal would have at least made it so they could hold him later when money frees up.

It’s incredibly frustrating.

[BoogieTime]

I will say, though Schroder hasn't overwhelmed me, at least Perry is looking somewhat solid early.. I wasnt a fan of Kuminga, but it looks like there is a reason we went after him so far early in the season

[BoogieTime]

I will say, though Schroder hasn't overwhelmed me, at least Perry is looking somewhat solid early.. I wasnt a fan of Kuminga, but it looks like there is a reason we went after him so far early in the season

I spoke soon... because Ja.. (Fox part deux).... apparently we are "monitoring"

We haven't learned from up and down, inefficient/non spacing guards?

Looks like we will at least be aggressive though.

Really, our picks going forward is huge... unprotected 2026 alone, no other picks, could net a player that could land us in the lower rung of the regular playoffs.. Every year we could exchange our current unprotected pick (nothing in the future) until we land on the strongly positive side of mediocrity

[LightTheBeam]

I will say, though Schroder hasn't overwhelmed me, at least Perry is looking somewhat solid early.. I wasnt a fan of Kuminga, but it looks like there is a reason we went after him so far early in the season

I spoke soon... because Ja.. (Fox part deux).... apparently we are "monitoring"

We haven't learned from up and down, inefficient/non spacing guards?

Looks like we will at least be aggressive though.

Really, our picks going forward is huge... unprotected 2026 alone, no other picks, could net a player that could land us in the lower rung of the regular playoffs.. Every year we could exchange our current unprotected pick (nothing in the future) until we land on the strongly positive side of mediocrity

Do you really watch this team pre-fox and post-fox and pretend it was fox's fault?

Its clear to anyone with eyeballs he was what made this team go.

[BoogieTime]

I will say, though Schroder hasn't overwhelmed me, at least Perry is looking somewhat solid early.. I wasnt a fan of Kuminga, but it looks like there is a reason we went after him so far early in the season

I spoke soon... because Ja.. (Fox part deux).... apparently we are "monitoring"

We haven't learned from up and down, inefficient/non spacing guards?

Looks like we will at least be aggressive though.

Really, our picks going forward is huge... unprotected 2026 alone, no other picks, could net a player that could land us in the lower rung of the regular playoffs.. Every year we could exchange our current unprotected pick (nothing in the future) until we land on the strongly positive side of mediocrity

Do you really watch this team pre-fox and post-fox and pretend it was fox's fault?

Its clear to anyone with eyeballs he was what made this team go.

Bro, its just a non stop argument... can't event unmute you when you respond at this point

But, now that we're here, it was Sabonis who was the multiple year outer mvp. And the team, and De'aarons game, changed with Sabonis' inclusion to the team, and the team was bad before Domas came. And as far as what's happened post trade, Fox has been injury prone and awful in San Antonio, the team doesn't have a multiple year COY coaching, the team's concept has steadily eroded, and everyone has seen better days

Fox had one, really good, supportable year, than his motor couldn't keep the fire burning moving forward (he was inefficient and took off too many games/quarters after that and less clutch). Even in that year, he just finished the games Sabonis was the hub of. If we could put Fox of 2022 on loop, we would all be having a different convo, including the longevity of the original beam, and Ja has actually had better years.

And even then, who even cares about that tit for tat? Ja is inefficient, non spacing, and a mediocre defender with a questionable motor. What is the argument against that for wanting him?

Talent can possibly supersede, and there aren't too many stars on the market, so maybe you just take the chance he becomes a better player though his trajectory is the wrong way, which I'm not totally against, but id prefer another target (but there may not be any)

[LightTheBeam]

I spoke soon... because Ja.. (Fox part deux).... apparently we are "monitoring"

We haven't learned from up and down, inefficient/non spacing guards?

Looks like we will at least be aggressive though.

Really, our picks going forward is huge... unprotected 2026 alone, no other picks, could net a player that could land us in the lower rung of the regular playoffs.. Every year we could exchange our current unprotected pick (nothing in the future) until we land on the strongly positive side of mediocrity

Do you really watch this team pre-fox and post-fox and pretend it was fox's fault?

Its clear to anyone with eyeballs he was what made this team go.

Bro, its just a non stop argument... can't event unmute you when you respond at this point

But, now that we're here, it was Sabonis who was the multiple year outer mvp. And the team, and De'aarons game, changed with Sabonis' inclusion to the team, and the team was bad before Domas came. And as far as what's happened post trade, Fox has been injury prone and awful in San Antonio, the team doesn't have a multiple year COY coaching, the team's concept has steadily eroded, and everyone has seen better days

Fox had one, really good, supportable year, than his motor couldn't keep the fire burning moving forward (he was inefficient and took off too many games/quarters after that and less clutch). Even in that year, he just finished the games Sabonis was the hub of. If we could put Fox of 2022 on loop, we would all be having a different convo, including the longevity of the original beam, and Ja has actually had better years.

And even then, who even cares about that tit for tat? Ja is inefficient, non spacing, and a mediocre defender with a questionable motor. What is the argument against that for wanting him?

Talent can possibly supersede, and there aren't too many stars on the market, so maybe you just take the chance he becomes a better player though his trajectory is the wrong way, which I'm not totally against, but id prefer another target (but there may not be any)

You didnt answer my question. You watch this team post fox and still come to the conclusion fox was the issue?

Is there any argument we are now better off without him?