Around the NBA 2025-26 - Vol 2... Hard Knock Season

[RHODEY]

Could be a Spreewell moment for them.....but really Spreewell was generally well liked by his teammates. I don't see Riley signing off, but then again I do

Spree is an interesting comparison because he was motivated by channeling his anger and I think Ja can be too.

Spree n Ja as human beings are nothing alike tho. Ja clearly has serious psychological issues… Spree was just pushed too far by a coach who had it out for him. Can’t imagine many grown men being able to withstand that much abuse.

Ja is on a whole other level.. he’s beyond help imo

Spreewell had anger issues, I recall a story of him going after a teammate (Kersey?) with a 2 by 4 . Different than Ja but very intense in his own way.

[jvsimonetti0514]

I think this bulls team might be legitimately good. Came back from 20 down last night against the 76ers with Maxey playing out of his mind. Saw someone on the general board mentioned there like 21-6 over their last 27 games. Which isn’t a small sample size. Giddey had another triple double and looks unstoppable. Maybe our loss against them will look less bad if they keep this up.

[thebuzzardman]

I think this bulls team might be legitimately good. Came back from 20 down last night against the 76ers with Maxey playing out of his mind. Saw someone on the general board mentioned there like 21-6 over their last 27 games. Which isn’t a small sample size. Giddey had another triple double and looks unstoppable. Maybe our loss against them will look less bad if they keep this up.

Let's say they are good. The expectations are that the Knicks should be excellent/great.

They've made massive trades and expended all kinds of resources to OG/KAT/Mikal. Once this core is done, the team is going to suck balls without picks for years, past the lifespan of some of the older posters. Brown was hired to make a very good team excellent. Upgraded the bench (slightly).

Getting beat and eking out a win against a "good" team isn't what I'm looking for, personally.

Hell, the sh*te Wiz dominated them on defense for a 1/2.

Anyway, all the optimists on here will be singing a different tune when the Wolves hand the Knicks an absolute ass beating tonight.

Do I want that? No. Do I want to be right? No. Just this team has a sluggish predictable half court offense and a relies on off balanced defense to hoist 3s in transition and against a team that rebounds and plays defense and scores efficiently (any good team), that will transition will work less and in the half court the 3s will be more contested.
And even if not, the Knicks are now a team that spaces and relies on 3, this from a team not really loaded with snipers.
And as of right now, there isn't a lot of movement and good cutting. Just a lot of passes around the perimeter and dho.

Knicks look way too easy to scheme

[spree8]

Spree is an interesting comparison because he was motivated by channeling his anger and I think Ja can be too.

Spree n Ja as human beings are nothing alike tho. Ja clearly has serious psychological issues… Spree was just pushed too far by a coach who had it out for him. Can’t imagine many grown men being able to withstand that much abuse.

Ja is on a whole other level.. he’s beyond help imo

Spreewell had anger issues, I recall a story of him going after a teammate (Kersey?) with a 2 by 4 . Different than Ja but very intense in his own way.

Eh I don’t think there’s any comparison… the majority of the male population has gotten into fights and I’m sure a good amount of them have grabbed a stick or bat to intimidate someone or scare them off… would be totally different if he beat him down with it of course.. but Ja? Come on man… this dude is on some Tommy from Goodfellas shyt.

Laser being pointed at the Pacers bus? Punching a child in the face at his house and then runs to grab a gun to threaten him with? Waiving around a gun on social media like it’s cool to take people’s lives? Saying he made a mistake and apologizing, and then doing it again? Telling someone on twitter he's going to shoot them after they insulted him? lol list goes on man… look at the way he was speaking to the media recently… the dude belongs in a straight jacket.

[3toheadmelo]

I think this bulls team might be legitimately good. Came back from 20 down last night against the 76ers with Maxey playing out of his mind. Saw someone on the general board mentioned there like 21-6 over their last 27 games. Which isn’t a small sample size. Giddey had another triple double and looks unstoppable. Maybe our loss against them will look less bad if they keep this up.

Giddey is playing like an all nba player right now. Insane carry job by him

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[jvsimonetti0514]

I think this bulls team might be legitimately good. Came back from 20 down last night against the 76ers with Maxey playing out of his mind. Saw someone on the general board mentioned there like 21-6 over their last 27 games. Which isn’t a small sample size. Giddey had another triple double and looks unstoppable. Maybe our loss against them will look less bad if they keep this up.

Let's say they are good. The expectations are that the Knicks should be excellent/great.

They've made massive trades and expended all kinds of resources to OG/KAT/Mikal. Once this core is done, the team is going to suck balls without picks for years, past the lifespan of some of the older posters. Brown was hired to make a very good team excellent. Upgraded the bench (slightly).

Getting beat and eking out a win against a "good" team isn't what I'm looking for, personally.

Hell, the sh*te Wiz dominated them on defense for a 1/2.

Anyway, all the optimists on here will be singing a different tune when the Wolves hand the Knicks an absolute ass beating tonight.

Do I want that? No. Do I want to be right? No. Just this team has a sluggish predictable half court offense and a relies on off balanced defense to hoist 3s in transition and against a team that rebounds and plays defense and scores efficiently (any good team), that will transition will work less and in the half court the 3s will be more contested.
And even if not, the Knicks are now a team that spaces and relies on 3, this from a team not really loaded with snipers.
And as of right now, there isn't a lot of movement and good cutting. Just a lot of passes around the perimeter and dho.

Knicks look way too easy to scheme

It kinda all depends on whether they can win 1 title in the next few years. Not really gonna care if it doesn’t look great in 2030 if they win soon.

I wouldn’t use the term eking out a win against the bulls. They were up by 25 and certainly eased up with a few minutes left and still won by double digits. That’s a good win no matter if the bulls end up being an 4th seed or an 8th seed. Even with how bad they were in the first bulls game they had chances to win the game. Same with the wizards games. We dominated them in the second and third quarters. Being bad in a first quarter on the second night of a back to back isn’t that big of a deal to me.

We’re 13th in offensive rating right now and if we up that just 1 point per 100 possessions that would get us to 6th. I do agree with that we might not have the shooting to play this way but just cuz these guys haven’t been high volume doesn’t mean they can’t be. They have been generating a lot of good looks. So I’m gonna give them a chance.

[Fury]

Spree is an interesting comparison because he was motivated by channeling his anger and I think Ja can be too.

Spree n Ja as human beings are nothing alike tho. Ja clearly has serious psychological issues… Spree was just pushed too far by a coach who had it out for him. Can’t imagine many grown men being able to withstand that much abuse.

Ja is on a whole other level.. he’s beyond help imo

Ja definitely has issues and I fear he's surrounded by people who don't give a damn about him including his own parents.

He needs "Heat culture."

[3toheadmelo]

Spree n Ja as human beings are nothing alike tho. Ja clearly has serious psychological issues… Spree was just pushed too far by a coach who had it out for him. Can’t imagine many grown men being able to withstand that much abuse.

Ja is on a whole other level.. he’s beyond help imo

Ja definitely has issues and I fear he's surrounded by people who don't give a damn about him including his own parents.

He needs "Heat culture."

Ngl I absolutely see Pat Riley getting Ja Morant on the low. He would turn him around for sure.

[jvsimonetti0514]

I think this bulls team might be legitimately good. Came back from 20 down last night against the 76ers with Maxey playing out of his mind. Saw someone on the general board mentioned there like 21-6 over their last 27 games. Which isn’t a small sample size. Giddey had another triple double and looks unstoppable. Maybe our loss against them will look less bad if they keep this up.

Giddey is playing like an all nba player right now. Insane carry job by him

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It was easy to dismiss his play post all star break cuz so many teams stop playing as hard but that fact it carried over to this year is a sign of a leap. We could easily be talking about him being talking about an all nba season and a most improved player.

[Fat Kat]

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[BKlutch]

NBA Panic Meter: Mavericks, Grizzlies, Pelicans should be worried after two weeks
Which teams should truly be concerned early in the season?

Team____ Panic Meter
Knicks_____ 2/10
Magic _____ 6/10
Grizzlies___ 7/10
Mavs ______ 8/10
Pelicans___ 10/10

It's well worth reading the article to see why.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-panic-meter-mavericks-knicks-magic-grizzlies-pelicans/

[NoDopeOnSundays]

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4 first rounders and a swap.

[RHODEY]

Spree n Ja as human beings are nothing alike tho. Ja clearly has serious psychological issues… Spree was just pushed too far by a coach who had it out for him. Can’t imagine many grown men being able to withstand that much abuse.

Ja is on a whole other level.. he’s beyond help imo

Spreewell had anger issues, I recall a story of him going after a teammate (Kersey?) with a 2 by 4 . Different than Ja but very intense in his own way.

Eh I don’t think there’s any comparison… the majority of the male population has gotten into fights and I’m sure a good amount of them have grabbed a stick or bat to intimidate someone or scare them off… would be totally different if he beat him down with it of course.. but Ja? Come on man… this dude is on some Tommy from Goodfellas shyt.

Laser being pointed at the Pacers bus? Punching a child in the face at his house and then runs to grab a gun to threaten him with? Waiving around a gun on social media like it’s cool to take people’s lives? Saying he made a mistake and apologizing, and then doing it again? Telling someone on twitter he's going to shoot them after they insulted him? lol list goes on man… look at the way he was speaking to the media recently… the dude belongs in a straight jacket.

Thats cool... acknowledged that they were different, the comparison was that both are athletic/immensely talented players who = are intense in their own way.

spreewell 2 by four

The phrase "Sprewell 2 by four" refers to
an incident where former NBA player Latrell Sprewell returned to a Golden State Warriors practice in 1995 with a two-by-four board after a fight with teammate Jerome Kersey. He was restrained by other players, and the situation was eventually de-escalated, but the incident became a notable part of Sprewell's controversial history.

Background: In 1995, Sprewell and teammate Jerome Kersey got into a physical altercation during a scrimmage.
The incident: After the fight, Sprewell left the practice area and returned shortly after, reportedly carrying a two-by-four board.
Resolution: Other players intervened and restrained Sprewell before he could use the board against Kersey. He was also later reported to have threatened to return with a gun.

I think grabbing a 2x4 on court in the middle of a practice is a bit out side the norm IMO...but its whatever since I love Spree, and it that story adds to his mystique

[Wildcat]

NBA Panic Meter: Mavericks, Grizzlies, Pelicans should be worried after two weeks
Which teams should truly be concerned early in the season?

Team____ Panic Meter
Knicks_____ 2/10
Magic _____ 6/10
Grizzlies___ 7/10
Mavs ______ 8/10
Pelicans___ 10/10

It's well worth reading the article to see why.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-panic-meter-mavericks-knicks-magic-grizzlies-pelicans/

I'd argue Dallas should be higher. They're in cap hell with no immediate signs of relief. The Luka trade was motivated for other reasons and not having a bidding war is the stupid f'ing thing I've ever read from a GM/President. Nico is such a **** even if he was the fall guy from the higher ups.

[Guano]

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4 first rounders and a swap.

Following the 3rd meLo rule of law: If youre going to be bad at least be entertaining

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[3toheadmelo]

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4 first rounders and a swap.

Following the 3rd meLo rule of law: If youre going to be bad at least be entertaining

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I see you memorized the rules of Melozakistan!

[3toheadmelo]

He's gonna be solid

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[spree8]

Spreewell had anger issues, I recall a story of him going after a teammate (Kersey?) with a 2 by 4 . Different than Ja but very intense in his own way.

Eh I don’t think there’s any comparison… the majority of the male population has gotten into fights and I’m sure a good amount of them have grabbed a stick or bat to intimidate someone or scare them off… would be totally different if he beat him down with it of course.. but Ja? Come on man… this dude is on some Tommy from Goodfellas shyt.

Laser being pointed at the Pacers bus? Punching a child in the face at his house and then runs to grab a gun to threaten him with? Waiving around a gun on social media like it’s cool to take people’s lives? Saying he made a mistake and apologizing, and then doing it again? Telling someone on twitter he's going to shoot them after they insulted him? lol list goes on man… look at the way he was speaking to the media recently… the dude belongs in a straight jacket.

Thats cool... acknowledged that they were different, the comparison was that both are athletic/immensely talented players who = are intense in their own way.

spreewell 2 by four

The phrase "Sprewell 2 by four" refers to
an incident where former NBA player Latrell Sprewell returned to a Golden State Warriors practice in 1995 with a two-by-four board after a fight with teammate Jerome Kersey. He was restrained by other players, and the situation was eventually de-escalated, but the incident became a notable part of Sprewell's controversial history.

Background: In 1995, Sprewell and teammate Jerome Kersey got into a physical altercation during a scrimmage.
The incident: After the fight, Sprewell left the practice area and returned shortly after, reportedly carrying a two-by-four board.
Resolution: Other players intervened and restrained Sprewell before he could use the board against Kersey. He was also later reported to have threatened to return with a gun.

I think grabbing a 2x4 on court in the middle of a practice is a bit out side the norm IMO...but its whatever since I love Spree, and it that story adds to his mystique

Bro stop slandering the man lol… a gun? Come on..don’t you think the team or league would’ve done something about that? He had a bit of an anger issue sure, but stop putting the man in the same sentence with a real psychopath in Ja.

”Reports of the fight stated that Kersey was ushered to the locker room while Sprewell left the scene and then returned brandishing a 2-by-4.

Sprewell said he did not want to “rehash” his feud with Kersey, but stated the reports of the incident were not completely accurate.

He also said he’s made peace with Kersey.

“We’re friends – it’s not like we call each other a lot, but we’re not enemies, either,” Sprewell said. “I have the ultimate respect for Jerome.”

Kersey, a 15-year veteran who spent his first 11 seasons in Portland, also debunked the notion of Sprewell coming at him with a weapon.

“That’s under the bridge,” Kersey said. “We shook hands and everything is fine. We speak to each other. It was blown out of proportion, really. I’ll say this, it was nothing more than what would have happened if you practice and two other guys get into a scuffle. All the 2-by-4 stuff, that’s to sell papers.”


https://nypost.com/1999/06/16/tale-of-2-by-4-leaves-spree-kersey-board/

[RHODEY]

Eh I don’t think there’s any comparison… the majority of the male population has gotten into fights and I’m sure a good amount of them have grabbed a stick or bat to intimidate someone or scare them off… would be totally different if he beat him down with it of course.. but Ja? Come on man… this dude is on some Tommy from Goodfellas shyt.

Laser being pointed at the Pacers bus? Punching a child in the face at his house and then runs to grab a gun to threaten him with? Waiving around a gun on social media like it’s cool to take people’s lives? Saying he made a mistake and apologizing, and then doing it again? Telling someone on twitter he's going to shoot them after they insulted him? lol list goes on man… look at the way he was speaking to the media recently… the dude belongs in a straight jacket.

Thats cool... acknowledged that they were different, the comparison was that both are athletic/immensely talented players who = are intense in their own way.

spreewell 2 by four

The phrase "Sprewell 2 by four" refers to
an incident where former NBA player Latrell Sprewell returned to a Golden State Warriors practice in 1995 with a two-by-four board after a fight with teammate Jerome Kersey. He was restrained by other players, and the situation was eventually de-escalated, but the incident became a notable part of Sprewell's controversial history.

Background: In 1995, Sprewell and teammate Jerome Kersey got into a physical altercation during a scrimmage.
The incident: After the fight, Sprewell left the practice area and returned shortly after, reportedly carrying a two-by-four board.
Resolution: Other players intervened and restrained Sprewell before he could use the board against Kersey. He was also later reported to have threatened to return with a gun.

I think grabbing a 2x4 on court in the middle of a practice is a bit out side the norm IMO...but its whatever since I love Spree, and it that story adds to his mystique

Bro stop slandering the man lol… a gun? Come on..don’t you think the team or league would’ve done something about that? He had a bit of an anger issue sure, but stop putting the man in the same sentence with a real psychopath in Ja.

”Reports of the fight stated that Kersey was ushered to the locker room while Sprewell left the scene and then returned brandishing a 2-by-4.

Sprewell said he did not want to “rehash” his feud with Kersey, but stated the reports of the incident were not completely accurate.

He also said he’s made peace with Kersey.

“We’re friends – it’s not like we call each other a lot, but we’re not enemies, either,” Sprewell said. “I have the ultimate respect for Jerome.”

Kersey, a 15-year veteran who spent his first 11 seasons in Portland, also debunked the notion of Sprewell coming at him with a weapon.

“That’s under the bridge,” Kersey said. “We shook hands and everything is fine. We speak to each other. It was blown out of proportion, really. I’ll say this, it was nothing more than what would have happened if you practice and two other guys get into a scuffle. All the 2-by-4 stuff, that’s to sell papers.”


https://nypost.com/1999/06/16/tale-of-2-by-4-leaves-spree-kersey-board/

Not slander at all, but I digress.

[Fat Kat]

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