Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2

[redslastlaugh]

More exciting, sure.

No, flat out better by every single metric.

I don't think Simons has ever gone 5 for 36 from deep over a 7 games stretch.

Ja Morant has a history or injuries, bad shooting from 3, and poor decision making. I'm thinking not a Brad Stevens player

(And just personally, Ja taking a year's salary worth of dollar bills and bringing them in Glad trash bags to a Denver area strip club, to dump the bills all over the strip club tables, booths & floor really made me wonder about this dude's mental process, lol)

[keevsnick1]

yikes
to me it stands out how few passes we make, how many possessions is the ball handler dribbles up and shoots a 3 or there is one screening action and Sam (or Derrick or whoever) fades and receives the ball to make an attempt for a 3

i saw some Celtics reporters say limiting passing is important in limiting turnovers so I think our team is trying not to pass the ball, so I don't know what to say, lol ... it's gonna be a long season lol

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To be fair, they are also elite at avoiding turnovers, elite at forcing turnovers, 4th in first shot halfcourt offense, top 5 in opponent eFG% and allow relatively few shots at the rim. So ya, if you list only stuff they're bad at things will look bad, but they also do some things VERY well.

Right now they are 12th in defensive rating despite being awful at getting defensive rebounds. They are 21st in offensive rating despite shooting 31% from 3 on the year. If the 3point% improves to what you'd expect they'll probably be about a .500 team.

As for Morant, I'd flat out just rather not pay what he's paid for the production he's giving right now. Hard pass.

[Celts17Pride]

Walker Kessler out of the season per wiretap

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[bigboi]

I don't think the Celtics would do it.

Joe and Ja might end up in a fist fight.

Joe and Ja would definitely end up in a fight.

...sign me up, this season needs a new narrative.

Seriously tho, I doubt the Celtics have much interest in Morant, aside from the general interest that every team would have to bring in a premier talent, of course.

The irony is that Joe may be the ideal coach for Ja. If Ja is willing to leave his ego at the door and come to Boston to be a very good beta to the Jays and White, he would add a missing dimension to the team (like, bringing the ball up the floor through pressure, for starters).

But he's not really incentivized to make that change as he's been the top dog his whole career. Plus, the price tag and cap implications too high for the Celtics now, unless they were willing to give up Simons, Hauser, plus maybe Hugo, plus picks.

White isn't good. Talking about being a beta to White. I don't even think White should be on the team. Be fr

[bigboi]

More exciting, sure.

No, flat out better by every single metric.

I don't think Simons has ever gone 5 for 36 from deep over a 7 games stretch.

Simons is almost shooting under 40% overall this year only on 14 ppg. I'm not sure what your point is. Simons has never been close to JA in his life.

[ryan in Maine]

No, flat out better by every single metric.

I don't think Simons has ever gone 5 for 36 from deep over a 7 games stretch.

Simons is almost shooting under 40% overall this year only on 14 ppg. I'm not sure what your point is. Simons has never been close to JA in his life.

I assume you're referring exclusively to 2022 and 2023 Ja?

[Riverwalk2021]

Is there a starting caliber big or point guard we get with Simmons/Hausers salaries without giving up too much draft capital? That would make for a solid 7.

Start: White, Brown, Minott, Tatum, TRADE
Bench: PP, Queta

[Curmudgeon]

Is there a starting caliber big or point guard we get with Simmons/Hausers salaries without giving up too much draft capital? That would make for a solid 7.

Start: White, Brown, Minott, Tatum, TRADE
Bench: PP, Queta

The short answer is no, although if you threw in a first rounder you might be able to get McCollum from the Wizards. He's certainly not going to be there after this year.

[Fierce1]

Is there a starting caliber big or point guard we get with Simmons/Hausers salaries without giving up too much draft capital? That would make for a solid 7.

Start: White, Brown, Minott, Tatum, TRADE
Bench: PP, Queta

The short answer is no, although if you threw in a first rounder you might be able to get McCollum from the Wizards. He's certainly not going to be there after this year.

McColllum is washed.

[Riverwalk2021]

Jebus we're screwed lol

[Curmudgeon]

Is there a starting caliber big or point guard we get with Simmons/Hausers salaries without giving up too much draft capital? That would make for a solid 7.

Start: White, Brown, Minott, Tatum, TRADE
Bench: PP, Queta

The short answer is no, although if you threw in a first rounder you might be able to get McCollum from the Wizards. He's certainly not going to be there after this year.

McColllum is washed.

Even washed he's better than Simons.

[playa-hater]

Sorry Sam, but Hauser should be traded. He is an exceptionally useful player for a team that has an outstanding talent that draws double teams and certainly can help a team that lacks shooting. But as far as we go I would much prefer to trade him. Get an asset in return and open up more Playing time for the young players who don't seem to get that chance. We are overloaded at the wing position. More playing for Hugo has to open up and for Rico and Walsh. And while none of them can shoot at Sam's level, they can certainly contribute in other ways as good or better than Hauser.

[Fierce1]

The short answer is no, although if you threw in a first rounder you might be able to get McCollum from the Wizards. He's certainly not going to be there after this year.

McColllum is washed.

Even washed he's better than Simons.

Cs can do better.

Simons and a pick to Utah

Rob Williams and Kyle Anderson to Boston

Niang and 2nd rounder to Portland

[Curmudgeon]

How about Simons for another washed guy, Klay Thompson? He's being playing like crap and the Mavs, who are 2-6, just moved him out of the starting lineup. You'd be stuck with Thompson for another year, but even washed he's a better defender than Simons.

[Celts17Pride]

How about Simons for another washed guy, Klay Thompson? He's being playing like crap and the Mavs, who are 2-6, just moved him out of the starting lineup. You'd be stuck with Thompson for another year, but even washed he's a better defender than Simons.

The only value Simons has to the Celtics is that he is done after this year. I wouldn't take longer salary back unless it was for a useful player going forward. Celtics don't need another high volume, low percentage three point chucker. Celtics have enough of those guys.

[Dogen]

Sorry Sam, but Hauser should be traded. He is an exceptionally useful player for a team that has an outstanding talent that draws double teams and certainly can help a team that lacks shooting. But as far as we go I would much prefer to trade him. Get an asset in return and open up more Playing time for the young players who don't seem to get that chance. We are overloaded at the wing position. More playing for Hugo has to open up and for Rico and Walsh. And while none of them can shoot at Sam's level, they can certainly contribute in other ways as good or better than Hauser.

Sam was a perfect 7th/8th man on a contender that likes to spread the floor and find open shooters, and has a lot of 'em.

Maybe it's time to start thinking about the "next Hauser" in 2027 and let this one chase his next ring elsewhere. I agree I'd rather be developing the young wings.

[celtxman]

Sorry Sam, but Hauser should be traded. He is an exceptionally useful player for a team that has an outstanding talent that draws double teams and certainly can help a team that lacks shooting. But as far as we go I would much prefer to trade him. Get an asset in return and open up more Playing time for the young players who don't seem to get that chance. We are overloaded at the wing position. More playing for Hugo has to open up and for Rico and Walsh. And while none of them can shoot at Sam's level, they can certainly contribute in other ways as good or better than Hauser.

I went through the end of last season believing Hauser was going to be traded. He was going to get $10 million per and they could experiment with Lonnie Walker, Drew Peterson, Scheierman or someone else to replace him. Someone else has come in Josh Minott. And there is room for Scheierman, Gonzalez and even Walsh to grow.
In the apron world I hope Sam is still tradeable. Because we need some tradeable salary to make a trade.

[Curmudgeon]

I don't want to trade Hauser unless (a) something really needed comes back, or (b) he's traded in a package with Simons.

[Fierce1]

If the Cs trade Simons then the Cs can keep Hauser.

I think Rob Williams is healthy now and would be a good addition to the Cs.

[jmr07019]

Walker Kessler out of the season per wiretap

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I don't think Joe and Brad have any desire to pay big money to a center who doesn't shoot 3's. Not saying I agree or disagree with that approach but management clearly wants to shoot 3's at an extremely high volume.