2025 49ers Season

[arich35]

I understand being upset we didn't trade for another DL but I just don't see the point. I don't want to waste assets with Warner and Bosa both out for the year. Seems like there wasn't someone with more than 1 year that was worth a higher pick. We desperately need to keep reloading in the draft

[Pattersonca65]

Man, there sure was an awful lot of chatter that SF was going to aggressive in the trade market at the deadline. Trade deadline came and went like a lamb.

I don't think trading for Keion White qualifies as being "aggressive." Not to mention that since then, they placed Gross Matos on IR and lost Williams for the season.

So disappointing. With the current record, remaining schedule, and substantial offensive talent coming back; this team had a chance even with all the injuries.

If Saleh leaves, they more or less wasted his one season here. I'm not going to over-react until we hear what the costs were for some of the names being floated, but to not use a 4th or something for a team legit desperate for a pass rush is not the best message to send to your team and its fanbase.

I think the 49ers being aggressive was mostly hype coming from talking heads. But listening to comments from Lynch and Shanahan i just didnt see it. Lynch said the 49ers were not interested in a rental so that takes some players off the board and then there was the comment about finding the right deal. The 49ers did contact other teams as reported but it seemed like they were not going to outbid other teams or give up high draft picks. I think they are sticking to their offseason plan for better or worse

[thesack12]

I understand being upset we didn't trade for another DL but I just don't see the point. I don't want to waste assets with Warner and Bosa both out for the year. Seems like there wasn't someone with more than 1 year that was worth a higher pick. We desperately need to keep reloading in the draft

1) Team is sitting on a 6-3 record. 3-0 in division (with 2 road wins), and 6-1 in conference
2) They are favored in 5 of the remaining 8 games, so there is a fairly clear path to an 11 win record
3) They still have their bye week in pocket which will allow them to reset, recharge, and heal up a bit
4) Due to the above 3, a playoff appearance looked likely (perhaps hosting a playoff game.) Playoff experience is invaluable for young guys
5) QB1, WR1, WR2, starting LG, and starting C will all be back. That's an insane infusion of offensive reinforcements
6) They just lost another DE in Williams for the season, and placed YGM on IR so he's out for who knows how much longer
7) How long will Robert Saleh be around? There's a chance he's 1 and done
8) How many quality seasons do Trent/Kittle/CMC/Bosa/Warner have left
9) This is the last cheap season of Brock Purdy's contract
10) SF has like $20 mil in cap space for this season
11) In 2026 draft, they have their 1-3 round picks, and projected to have (4) 4ths or (3) 4ths + a 5th, and a 7th
12) in 2027 draft they own all of their picks, except the 6th but they are owed an additional 7th from KC
13) Next season has the AFC West and NFC East on the schedule, and both Seattle and LAR look to be among the league's best teams

Nobody is saying they should have done something rash and stupid like sending Cincy a 1st for a 1/2 season rental of Hendrickson. Right now its just a having available bodies type of thing. There were moves out there that could have helped them try to keep their head above water along the DL/pass rush. Chicago got Tryon for basically nothing, Baltimore got Jones for a conditional late round pick.

To do nothing at DL after losing Williams and YGM, is borderline malpractice and a disservice to the team and its fan base.

[thesack12]

With a brief look at practice rosters, I see that Kentavius Street is on Atlanta's practice squad.

I'm not sure what his health status currently is, but if he's available to play I don't see much downside in signing Street off Atlanta's PS. He played under Saleh here in 2020, so he obviously is familiar with the scheme.

You'd have to immediately give Street a spot on the 53 and guarantee him at least 3 active game day checks. But you aren't required to keep him on the 53 after that first week.

Another familiar face and former Saleh student that might be a practice squad snipe option is Sheldon Day. He is currently on Washington's practice squad. Granted he's a pure DT, and SF needs more help on the outside than the inside.

[clyde21]

I'm okay w/ not trading anymore assets for what is a hail mary this year, I just don't trust this team to go far in the playoffs even if we get in. No Bosa or Warner really zapped all of the hope out of me and I'd rather not just throw draft picks around just to get bounced out of R1 regardless

[arich35]

I understand being upset we didn't trade for another DL but I just don't see the point. I don't want to waste assets with Warner and Bosa both out for the year. Seems like there wasn't someone with more than 1 year that was worth a higher pick. We desperately need to keep reloading in the draft

1) Team is sitting on a 6-3 record. 3-0 in division (with 2 road wins), and 6-1 in conference
2) They are favored in 5 of the remaining 8 games, so there is a fairly clear path to an 11 win record
3) They still have their bye week in pocket which will allow them to reset, recharge, and heal up a bit
4) Due to the above 3, a playoff appearance looked likely (perhaps hosting a playoff game.) Playoff experience is invaluable for young guys
5) QB1, WR1, WR2, starting LG, and starting C will all be back. That's an insane infusion of offensive reinforcements
6) They just lost another DE in Williams for the season, and placed YGM on IR so he's out for who knows how much longer
7) How long will Robert Saleh be around? There's a chance he's 1 and done
8) How many quality seasons do Trent/Kittle/CMC/Bosa/Warner have left
9) This is the last cheap season of Brock Purdy's contract
10) SF has like $20 mil in cap space for this season
11) In 2026 draft, they have their 1-3 round picks, and projected to have (4) 4ths or (3) 4ths + a 5th, and a 7th
12) in 2027 draft they own all of their picks, except the 6th but they are owed an additional 7th from KC
13) Next season has the AFC West and NFC East on the schedule, and both Seattle and LAR look to be among the league's best teams

Nobody is saying they should have done something rash and stupid like sending Cincy a 1st for a 1/2 season rental of Hendrickson. Right now its just a having available bodies type of thing. There were moves out there that could have helped them try to keep their head above water along the DL/pass rush. Chicago got Tryon for basically nothing, Baltimore got Jones for a conditional late round pick.

To do nothing at DL after losing Williams and YGM, is borderline malpractice and a disservice to the team and its fan base.

I totally get it but we have all seen how we have played and the injuries keep mounting, we are not competing with the top teams IMO.

There wasn't a ton of pass rushers going for 4th+ round picks. Jermaine Johnson from the Jets was floated around but they wanted a 2nd round pick, I wouldn't do that for 1.5 years of him and it's not like he is a sack specialist. You mention Tyron, I have to assume he wasn't on our radar because they felt he didn't fit the scheme or for another reason. I don't know, I am fine with what we did with adding White and Ferrell. Could be another older guy released later in the year from a **** team we might be able to add on.

[Pattersonca65]

If you wanted to know why SF did not make a trade, here is Shanahan's answer


“I don’t think [staying pat] has to do with how we viewed this year’s team,” head coach Kyle Shanahan said about the deadline. “I think we worked just as hard this year to make a trade that made sense for our team this year and next year, just as hard as we do every year. There are a lot of teams with records like 6-3 or better that didn’t make any big trade. Just because you make a big trade doesn’t mean it’s always a smart move.

“There’s a lot of risk that goes into it, not just for this year, but throughout your whole future. I was excited we were able to make one that we felt really good about last week and getting Keion. I know we looked into a ton of them, but the asking price was too much on all of them.”

The reported asking price for Hendrickson was a first-round pick, which certainly seemed hefty for a one-year rental, while Johnson’s reported asking price was a second-round pick, which also was on the higher side, even with two years of team control (fifth-year option in 2026).

[wco81]

I'm not sure that even if they got the best pass rusher in the league for the last half of the season and playoffs that it's going to raise the prospects for this team enough to get them among the top teams.

There are too many other flaws.

Maybe some of the top teams will suffer injuries in the back half of the season like the 49ers have through the first half.

That's what hurt the Lions last season, their defense got decimated in the second half and they weren't stopping anyone going into the playoffs.

[CrimsonCrew]

I understand being upset we didn't trade for another DL but I just don't see the point. I don't want to waste assets with Warner and Bosa both out for the year. Seems like there wasn't someone with more than 1 year that was worth a higher pick. We desperately need to keep reloading in the draft

1) Team is sitting on a 6-3 record. 3-0 in division (with 2 road wins), and 6-1 in conference
2) They are favored in 5 of the remaining 8 games, so there is a fairly clear path to an 11 win record
3) They still have their bye week in pocket which will allow them to reset, recharge, and heal up a bit
4) Due to the above 3, a playoff appearance looked likely (perhaps hosting a playoff game.) Playoff experience is invaluable for young guys
5) QB1, WR1, WR2, starting LG, and starting C will all be back. That's an insane infusion of offensive reinforcements
6) They just lost another DE in Williams for the season, and placed YGM on IR so he's out for who knows how much longer
7) How long will Robert Saleh be around? There's a chance he's 1 and done
8) How many quality seasons do Trent/Kittle/CMC/Bosa/Warner have left
9) This is the last cheap season of Brock Purdy's contract
10) SF has like $20 mil in cap space for this season
11) In 2026 draft, they have their 1-3 round picks, and projected to have (4) 4ths or (3) 4ths + a 5th, and a 7th
12) in 2027 draft they own all of their picks, except the 6th but they are owed an additional 7th from KC
13) Next season has the AFC West and NFC East on the schedule, and both Seattle and LAR look to be among the league's best teams

Nobody is saying they should have done something rash and stupid like sending Cincy a 1st for a 1/2 season rental of Hendrickson. Right now its just a having available bodies type of thing. There were moves out there that could have helped them try to keep their head above water along the DL/pass rush. Chicago got Tryon for basically nothing, Baltimore got Jones for a conditional late round pick.

To do nothing at DL after losing Williams and YGM, is borderline malpractice and a disservice to the team and its fan base.

The biggest frustration by far this year is that our schedule is so favorable, and yet we are probably too injured to really take advantage. Given the way our young players have stepped up, if we had Warner and Bosa, knew Aiyuk was coming back, and that Purdy, Pearsall, and the other offensive players would return and play well, this team should have been right in the mix. But that's not the reality.

With the exception of the Houston game, this defense has played out of its mind, often carrying the O early in the year, when I expected we'd need to see the opposite. But we're just too limited with the injuries at this point. It is really hard to see us stopping a really good offense. Hell, any offense with a competent QB will be a threat to us at this point, given our total lack of pass rush.

Having said that, next year looks like it could be a promising season. We aren't scheduled to lose any impact players - Jennings and Jordan Elliott probably the top two. Guys like Okuayinono, Tonges, Luke Gifford, and Kalia Davis are also due to be FAs, but they shouldn't cost much to retain. Our young players will be a year older and experienced. We'll have another rookie class to fill out the roster. The problem - as always with this team, seemingly - is health. We can't make a legit go of it if 50% of our starters miss substantial time.

I don't have a huge problem standing pat. We just traded for White who did a nice job rushing from inside. Ferrell is probably about as good as any of the lower-level trade options. Huff should be back soon. Maybe we make a run in the playoffs, but I wouldn't have wanted to give up any sort of valuable pick for a guy who is unlikely to fundamentally alter the outcome this season.

[arich35]

This injury report is just absurd

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[wco81]

We may find out some of these players who were never put on IR should have gotten surgery or something weeks ago.

[RIPskaterdude]

Yeah, this is why they needed to make a trade. Not for Trey or Maxx, but for another healthy body. We trade for White and he already hurt his hamstring

[Jikkle]

Our record is fools gold and we've only played two games against the Falcons and Giants that were complete games by all 3 phases and neither of those teams are good.

So I'm fine with them not putting any serious investment into making a trade that likely wouldn't have pushed us over the edge. Much rather use the picks to overhaul the offensive line and to continue to bolster the defensive line.

My wishlist for the offseason would be:

1) Overhaul the offensive line whether it's through FA and/or the draft. I know it's wishful thinking but I'd hope that being towards the bottom of the league in rushing when your offense is built to be run first would mean it might be a good idea to invest in the offensive line. It's crazy and frustrating because when the offensive line actually has a good day blocking the offense looks unstoppable but that has maybe happened twice all season.

2) Figure out the training staff. The amount of soft tissue injuries this team has consistently year in and year out can't just be bad luck or somehow Lynch assembling a roster full of the most injury-prone people in the league. They revamped the staff something like 5 years ago to reduce injuries and clearly you've had a large enough sample size to show it didn't work and you need to try again.

Honestly those are my two biggest issues I see with the team. Not that there aren't other areas to address like improving the pass rush even more but this team would be leagues better if it just had an above average offensive line and could reduce the injuries a significant amount.

[RIPskaterdude]

Sighhhhhhhhh

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[arich35]

Yeah, this is why they needed to make a trade. Not for Trey or Maxx, but for another healthy body. We trade for White and he already hurt his hamstring

Trade for another guy he would be hurt too within 2 weeks.

[RIPskaterdude]

Man, what a terrible signing. Two years gone

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[arich35]

Man, what a terrible signing. Two years gone

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Hard to predict a complete knee blow up but yeah after how he acted last off season we should have just traded him

[wco81]

The results today shouldn't be too surprising, the Seahawks and Rams have separated from the 49ers and the Cards.

Not sure the 49ers defense could stop the Cards now.

Beyond that there are probably a couple of other NFC teams which would best the 49ers by 10-14 points or more.

Team is probably going to attribute this season to the big injuries but even before the injuries, there were bad signs, like the low pass pressure rate, which combined with an inexperienced secondary was not going to go well against the best teams.

On offense, they've lost the running game and the pass-pressure rate allowed has been declining.

Eagles in 2023 saw the second half of their season unravel and rebuilt it quickly with a couple of key draft picks and acquisitions to turn around that defense, which would slam shut the Chiefs in the SB.

But that kind of turnaround is unlikely for the 49ers. For one thing, the Eagles have one of the best GMs in the league and they also had a stud OL and some studs on the DL like Carter as well as two top WRs. Then the Giants gifted them Barkley on top of that.

Even if Bosa and Warner return to their Pro Bowl/All-Pro levels, it may not be enough for this team to be among the contenders next season. Not sure Bosa will return to that level. The 49ers have several players who earned huge contracts but like Deebo a couple of seasons ago are unlikely to regain the form which earned them those big contracts.

[thesack12]

The game today just further amplifies the frustration of not making a move for a pass rusher during trade deadline week.

The offense has the capability to hang with pretty much anyone. The OL has looked much improved lately, with Burford and Bartch back in the fold. They are also set to return QB1, WR1, and WR2 at some point. So its entirely reasonable to expect the offense to get better, perhaps substantially better.

However, the defense will remain a massive liability that is going to drag the team down every week. Which is 100% attributed to a total void in the pass rushing department.

The effects of not having a pass rush are are profound. It puts an enormous amount of pressure on your back 7, which only gets amplified when you have tom blitz to try and create a semblance of a pass rush.

The secondary is not as bad as they showed today. They just have no help up front. Saleh is being forced to dial up undesirable schemes and playcalls because he knows the front 4 are going to routinely get beaten like a drum.

Just before the trade deadline, SF lost Mykel Williams for the season and placed Gross Matos on IR. So they somehow managed to actually have a worse outlook in the pass rushing department.

I hear a lot of folks saying that there was no trade out there that would transform the defense. In my opinion they are looking at it the wrong way. I don't think trying to get a transformational player was the problem. They obviously weren't going to bring someone in, which would magically turn the defense into a top shelf unit. SF just needed an addition that might help them not be a complete zero in the pass rush department. They weren't required to go big game hunting, they just needed to hunt something that would have fed their family.

In other words, just make a move to give yourself a chance. The offense and MASSIVELY improved special teams, would have gave you a puncher's chance every week.

This is football, and sometimes the teams with the most available talent don't win. We as 49ers fans should know that all too well. Whether it be injuries forcing you to not being able to attempt a forward pass for like 50% of a NFCCG or like 8 different bounces going out of your favor in the Super Bowl. If you get in the playoffs, anything can happen.

SF didn't need a top 10 defense, but at the same time they couldn't have a bottom 2 defense. With a complete lack of a pass rush, they sealed the fate of being a truly terrible defense. And thus likely crushing any hope they had for the season.

[wco81]

I don’t know, maybe a better pass rush would have them lose by 10 points instead of 20 to the top teams.

When I think about trading future picks, I think of teams like the Jags, who traded future picks to draft Hunter.

Then they traded a 4th and a 6th for Jacoby Myers, who’s maybe an average WR.

The Jags don’t seem to be more than a lower seed playoffs team, so they’re better than they were last season but Travis Hunter wasn’t going to make them a playoffs team, at least this season. Nor is Myers going to improve their team more than the players they’d probably have drafted.

Jags and 49ers are at similar levels and they’re likely going to end up about the same, maybe win 1 playoffs game at most. We will see if those trades get the Jags farther, I’m guessing not.