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Re: We need to have a serious discussion about the Milwaukee Bucks 

Post#41 » by PushDaRock » Thu Nov 6, 2025 10:19 pm

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GeorgeMarcus wrote:The roster isn't that bad but Doc Rivers stinks on ice, and minute restricted Middleton would be vastly better than Kuz

They are 5-3 which is pretty much in line with expectations and obviously too early to draw any major conclusions


The roster isn't that bad? How many NBA teams do you think they beat without Giannis?


Like... What would happen if the Spurs lost Wemby? Same thing


They would still have Fox who has managed to make the playoffs as the best player on the roster and is also way better than anyone on that Bucks roster.
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Re: We need to have a serious discussion about the Milwaukee Bucks 

Post#42 » by RRyder823 » Thu Nov 6, 2025 10:28 pm

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The roster isn't that bad? How many NBA teams do you think they beat without Giannis?


Prolly between 5-10 but that's generally what happens when a team loses their superstar. Not to mention their second best player who got injured- what were they suppose to do about that? Just bad luck. Myles Turner is a great complementary piece and they have a bunch of rotation worthy guys. SGA/Jokic's supporting cast are luxuries, not the standard.


lol there definitely are not 5 teams they could beat much less 10 without Giannis


Who is their 2nd best player?


So GS is a bottom 5 team now?

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Re: We need to have a serious discussion about the Milwaukee Bucks 

Post#43 » by GeorgeMarcus » Thu Nov 6, 2025 10:29 pm

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The roster isn't that bad? How many NBA teams do you think they beat without Giannis?


Like... What would happen if the Spurs lost Wemby? Same thing


They would still have Fox who has managed to make the playoffs as the best player on the roster and is also way better than anyone on that Bucks roster.


Give me Turner over Fox any day of the week. Fox wasn't the best player on those Kings teams anyway, he was just benefitting statistically from having the ball in his hands all the time
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Re: We need to have a serious discussion about the Milwaukee Bucks 

Post#44 » by PushDaRock » Thu Nov 6, 2025 10:29 pm

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Prolly between 5-10 but that's generally what happens when a team loses their superstar. Not to mention their second best player who got injured- what were they suppose to do about that? Just bad luck. Myles Turner is a great complementary piece and they have a bunch of rotation worthy guys. SGA/Jokic's supporting cast are luxuries, not the standard.


lol there definitely are not 5 teams they could beat much less 10 without Giannis


Who is their 2nd best player?


So GS is a bottom 5 team now?



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Re: We need to have a serious discussion about the Milwaukee Bucks 

Post#45 » by PushDaRock » Thu Nov 6, 2025 10:30 pm

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Like... What would happen if the Spurs lost Wemby? Same thing


They would still have Fox who has managed to make the playoffs as the best player on the roster and is also way better than anyone on that Bucks roster.


Give me Turner over Fox any day of the week. Fox wasn't the best player on those Kings teams anyway, he was just benefitting statistically from having the ball in his hands all the time


lol Turner having to be the best player on any team would be comical
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Re: We need to have a serious discussion about the Milwaukee Bucks 

Post#46 » by GeorgeMarcus » Thu Nov 6, 2025 10:31 pm

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They would still have Fox who has managed to make the playoffs as the best player on the roster and is also way better than anyone on that Bucks roster.


Give me Turner over Fox any day of the week. Fox wasn't the best player on those Kings teams anyway, he was just benefitting statistically from having the ball in his hands all the time


lol Turner having to be the best player on any team would be comical


Probably because you don't know how to differentiate best player from leading scorer
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Re: We need to have a serious discussion about the Milwaukee Bucks 

Post#47 » by PushDaRock » Thu Nov 6, 2025 10:33 pm

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Give me Turner over Fox any day of the week. Fox wasn't the best player on those Kings teams anyway, he was just benefitting statistically from having the ball in his hands all the time


lol Turner having to be the best player on any team would be comical


Probably because you don't know how to differentiate best player from leading scorer


It would appear not
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Post#48 » by GeorgeMarcus » Thu Nov 6, 2025 10:36 pm

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lol Turner having to be the best player on any team would be comical


Probably because you don't know how to differentiate best player from leading scorer


It would appear not


They obviously wouldn't be a good team without Giannis but it's damn near impossible to be a good team with your 2 max contracts off the court, so I just don't know what needs to be discussed regarding the OP. Other than the dumb Kuzma deal and coach signing
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Re: We need to have a serious discussion about the Milwaukee Bucks 

Post#49 » by RRyder823 » Thu Nov 6, 2025 10:38 pm

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lol there definitely are not 5 teams they could beat much less 10 without Giannis


Who is their 2nd best player?


So GS is a bottom 5 team now?



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Yes and the Blazers are now the fav to win the title as well based off a 1 game sample size.
You said "Who could they beat without Giannis"

A one game sample size is litterally all you need. WTF are you talking about?

It was an idiotic statement but go on. Dig the heels in

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Re: We need to have a serious discussion about the Milwaukee Bucks 

Post#50 » by PushDaRock » Thu Nov 6, 2025 10:45 pm

GeorgeMarcus wrote:
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Probably because you don't know how to differentiate best player from leading scorer


It would appear not


They obviously wouldn't be a good team without Giannis but it's damn near impossible to be a good team with your 2 max contracts off the court, so I just don't know what needs to be discussed regarding the OP. Other than the dumb Kuzma deal and coach signing


You're the one saying the roster is not that bad.

Of course it's difficult to have a good roster when you're paying Dame 20m to disappear and Kuzma another 20m to be a waste of space and Giannis taking up 35% of the cap. lol that's the whole point of why the roster is in fact terrible without Giannis and I would have them as the worst team in the league without him.
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Re: We need to have a serious discussion about the Milwaukee Bucks 

Post#51 » by xBulletproof » Thu Nov 6, 2025 10:46 pm

Godymas wrote:First of all, everyone knew Myles Turner's offense was being gifted by playing with Tyrese Haliburton, it was so obvious from day 1 because as soon as Haliburton showed Turner's PPG spikes 5-6 points and then he posts career highs on scoring next to Haliburton.


If only this were true.

I was told here and other places by Bucks fans that Giannis was going to make Turner an even bigger threat on offense because he demanded more attention than Haliburton. Which would mean he would get more open shots and better opportunities. I don't remember the exact split, but I pointed out that 5.3 out of Turners 5.5 3 point shots last year were wide open (6 feet+) or open (4-6 feet) by NBA standards, not much room to go up there. But alas, I was told I was wrong.

Either way, he's incredibly inconsistent. He's due for a 30 point game soon. I thought sure he'd come out firing at the start of the season, but that didn't exactly happen either. So who knows?

***EDIT*** Found one of those interactions here searching for the term "wide open" on my posts:

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2467204&p=119276046&hilit=wide+open#p119276046
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Re: We need to have a serious discussion about the Milwaukee Bucks 

Post#52 » by GeorgeMarcus » Thu Nov 6, 2025 10:47 pm

PushDaRock wrote:
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PushDaRock wrote:
It would appear not


They obviously wouldn't be a good team without Giannis but it's damn near impossible to be a good team with your 2 max contracts off the court, so I just don't know what needs to be discussed regarding the OP. Other than the dumb Kuzma deal and coach signing


You're the one saying the roster is not that bad.

Of course it's difficult to have a good roster when you're paying Dame 20m to disappear and Kuzma another 20m to be a waste of space and Giannis taking up 35% of the cap. lol that's the whole point of why the roster is in fact terrible without Giannis and I would have them as the worst team in the league without him.


I said 'not that bad'. Never said good because they wouldn't be
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Re: We need to have a serious discussion about the Milwaukee Bucks 

Post#53 » by PushDaRock » Thu Nov 6, 2025 10:48 pm

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So GS is a bottom 5 team now?



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Yes and the Blazers are now the fav to win the title as well based off a 1 game sample size.
You said "Who could they beat without Giannis"

A one game sample size is litterally all you need. WTF are you talking about?

It was an idiotic statement but go on. Dig the heels in

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Re: We need to have a serious discussion about the Milwaukee Bucks 

Post#54 » by PushDaRock » Thu Nov 6, 2025 10:50 pm

GeorgeMarcus wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
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They obviously wouldn't be a good team without Giannis but it's damn near impossible to be a good team with your 2 max contracts off the court, so I just don't know what needs to be discussed regarding the OP. Other than the dumb Kuzma deal and coach signing


You're the one saying the roster is not that bad.

Of course it's difficult to have a good roster when you're paying Dame 20m to disappear and Kuzma another 20m to be a waste of space and Giannis taking up 35% of the cap. lol that's the whole point of why the roster is in fact terrible without Giannis and I would have them as the worst team in the league without him.


I said 'not that bad', as expected. Never said good because they wouldn't be


What does "not that bad" mean? 20 win team?
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Re: We need to have a serious discussion about the Milwaukee Bucks 

Post#55 » by GeorgeMarcus » Thu Nov 6, 2025 10:53 pm

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You're the one saying the roster is not that bad.

Of course it's difficult to have a good roster when you're paying Dame 20m to disappear and Kuzma another 20m to be a waste of space and Giannis taking up 35% of the cap. lol that's the whole point of why the roster is in fact terrible without Giannis and I would have them as the worst team in the league without him.


I said 'not that bad', as expected. Never said good because they wouldn't be


What does "not that bad" mean? 20 win team?


No, 20 is unquestionably bad. I said better than 5-10 teams so around 30.
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Re: We need to have a serious discussion about the Milwaukee Bucks 

Post#56 » by PushDaRock » Thu Nov 6, 2025 10:53 pm

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I said 'not that bad', as expected. Never said good because they wouldn't be


What does "not that bad" mean? 20 win team?


No, 20 is unquestionably bad. I said better than 5-10 teams so around 30.


Not a chance that team wins 30 games without Giannis
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Re: We need to have a serious discussion about the Milwaukee Bucks 

Post#57 » by RRyder823 » Thu Nov 6, 2025 10:54 pm

PushDaRock wrote:
RRyder823 wrote:
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Yes and the Blazers are now the fav to win the title as well based off a 1 game sample size.
You said "Who could they beat without Giannis"

A one game sample size is litterally all you need. WTF are you talking about?

It was an idiotic statement but go on. Dig the heels in

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Good to know instead of admitting that you made an idiotic statement instead of simply owning up thats your response.


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Re: We need to have a serious discussion about the Milwaukee Bucks 

Post#58 » by GeorgeMarcus » Thu Nov 6, 2025 10:54 pm

PushDaRock wrote:
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What does "not that bad" mean? 20 win team?


No, 20 is unquestionably bad. I said better than 5-10 teams so around 30.


Not a chance that team wins 30 games without Giannis


Alright, I disagree but not enough to continue this conversation
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Re: We need to have a serious discussion about the Milwaukee Bucks 

Post#59 » by PushDaRock » Thu Nov 6, 2025 10:56 pm

RRyder823 wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
RRyder823 wrote:You said "Who could they beat without Giannis"

A one game sample size is litterally all you need. WTF are you talking about?

It was an idiotic statement but go on. Dig the heels in

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Good to know instead of admitting that you made an idiotic statement instead of simply owning up thats your response.


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You owned me, what else is there to say?
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Re: We need to have a serious discussion about the Milwaukee Bucks 

Post#60 » by RRyder823 » Fri Nov 7, 2025 12:17 am

PushDaRock wrote:
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Good to know instead of admitting that you made an idiotic statement instead of simply owning up thats your response.


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You owned me, what else is there to say?
Its not about owning someone.

It about people not being able to admit they said something dumb. Its ok we've all said dumb statements.


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