2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread

[cHiNoz]

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This is shocking

Unless something changed dramatically overnight, Jays are +2000.
Next closest is NYY at +425


Bichette is -210 though

[brwnman]

It's probably the WS high, and everyone wants Bo signed, but this is practically the same team that flamed out the previous year. They got contributions from unexpected contributors this year and I don't know if it's reasonable to expect that going into next year.

How are the Jays going to build around the core of Bo/Vlad? Right now, the only way to do it is by spending $$... but at some point, that well is going to be tapped dry. Will they finally build a pipeline to supplement the ML club, or will it just be via Free Agency?

I hear what you're saying, and you're not wrong, some regresssion by the likes of an aging Springer wouldn't be surprising. However, I think the difference between this year's team versus recent previous seasons is the very underrated addition of Popkins last offseason. This team had a far better approach at the plate, was well prepared to face not only our opponents starters, but their relief pitchers as well, hence all our late inning comeback wins this season. I think Popkins needs to be locked up asap to a long term contract because he's going to catch the attention of rival teams, if he hasn't already, and we don't need the likes of the Dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox, etc starting to pursue him at the earliest opportunity.

I think the addition of Popkins was likely the biggest factor for this offense. However, I think once the league adjusts to the new swing paths and new approach for players, they have to re-adjust. That's going to be something to watch. I don't think they need to worry about a long-term contract for a hitting coach. Twins let him go because their team was too hot and cold with little consistency. It led to one of their collapses and Jays almost had one down the stretch this year. Not necessarily Popkins fault, because in the end, it's on the players.

[Randle McMurphy]

It's probably the WS high, and everyone wants Bo signed, but this is practically the same team that flamed out the previous year. They got contributions from unexpected contributors this year and I don't know if it's reasonable to expect that going into next year.

How are the Jays going to build around the core of Bo/Vlad? Right now, the only way to do it is by spending $$... but at some point, that well is going to be tapped dry. Will they finally build a pipeline to supplement the ML club, or will it just be via Free Agency?

Just become the Canadian Dodgers and money will solve any problems they have.

[brwnman]

It's probably the WS high, and everyone wants Bo signed, but this is practically the same team that flamed out the previous year. They got contributions from unexpected contributors this year and I don't know if it's reasonable to expect that going into next year.

How are the Jays going to build around the core of Bo/Vlad? Right now, the only way to do it is by spending $$... but at some point, that well is going to be tapped dry. Will they finally build a pipeline to supplement the ML club, or will it just be via Free Agency?

Just become the Canadian Dodgers and money will solve any problems they have.

It's the easiest solution for a bad management. Don't have faith in Rogers continuing to spend. Jays fans have proven time and time again, if the team doesn't win, they won't show up. Couple of bad years, and the purse strings tighten.

[Cyrus]

We should be Dodgers East and go after:

Japanese slugger Munetaka Murakami - https://www.mlb.com/news/munetaka-murakami-mlb-star-potential-analysis

Apparently an 80 Grade on power! LOL Plays 3rd base - Though he has a lot of swing and miss:

On top of his outrageous power potential, Murakami has one key advantage over everyone else on this list: age. He’s 25 as of this writing and will turn 26 in February. Age is king on the open market, as we’ve seen with mega-deals for Yoshinobu Yamamoto, Juan Soto and Vladimir Guerrero Jr. Murakami isn’t going to reach the heights of anyone from that group, but he’s selling four seasons of his 20s and all of his early 30s. A massive nine-figure deal feels genuinely possible, particularly if any teams out there think he can at least play even a passable third base for a year or two before sliding across the diamond.

There’s obvious risk in this profile. Miguel Sano jumps to mind as a faux third baseman with 80 power who could never make enough contact to stick even as a first baseman. On the flip side of the coin, there are scenarios where Murakami is effectively a lite version of Kyle Schwarber’s skill set — but eight years younger with more defensive value as a competent first baseman. The range of outcomes is all over the place on Murakami, but the upside here is tantalizing enough that we’re predicting a huge investment — likely one with opt-outs along the way.

[Asianiac_24]

Better chance we move Vlad to 3rd and have Murakami play 1st base.

[Raptors Realtor]

We should be Dodgers East and go after:

Japanese slugger Munetaka Murakami - https://www.mlb.com/news/munetaka-murakami-mlb-star-potential-analysis

Apparently an 80 Grade on power! LOL Plays 3rd base - Though he has a lot of swing and miss:

On top of his outrageous power potential, Murakami has one key advantage over everyone else on this list: age. He’s 25 as of this writing and will turn 26 in February. Age is king on the open market, as we’ve seen with mega-deals for Yoshinobu Yamamoto, Juan Soto and Vladimir Guerrero Jr. Murakami isn’t going to reach the heights of anyone from that group, but he’s selling four seasons of his 20s and all of his early 30s. A massive nine-figure deal feels genuinely possible, particularly if any teams out there think he can at least play even a passable third base for a year or two before sliding across the diamond.

There’s obvious risk in this profile. Miguel Sano jumps to mind as a faux third baseman with 80 power who could never make enough contact to stick even as a first baseman. On the flip side of the coin, there are scenarios where Murakami is effectively a lite version of Kyle Schwarber’s skill set — but eight years younger with more defensive value as a competent first baseman. The range of outcomes is all over the place on Murakami, but the upside here is tantalizing enough that we’re predicting a huge investment — likely one with opt-outs along the way.

We already have one of those guys in Santander, not sure we need another all or nothing hitter.

[Randle McMurphy]

We should be Dodgers East and go after:

Japanese slugger Munetaka Murakami - https://www.mlb.com/news/munetaka-murakami-mlb-star-potential-analysis

Apparently an 80 Grade on power! LOL Plays 3rd base - Though he has a lot of swing and miss:

On top of his outrageous power potential, Murakami has one key advantage over everyone else on this list: age. He’s 25 as of this writing and will turn 26 in February. Age is king on the open market, as we’ve seen with mega-deals for Yoshinobu Yamamoto, Juan Soto and Vladimir Guerrero Jr. Murakami isn’t going to reach the heights of anyone from that group, but he’s selling four seasons of his 20s and all of his early 30s. A massive nine-figure deal feels genuinely possible, particularly if any teams out there think he can at least play even a passable third base for a year or two before sliding across the diamond.

There’s obvious risk in this profile. Miguel Sano jumps to mind as a faux third baseman with 80 power who could never make enough contact to stick even as a first baseman. On the flip side of the coin, there are scenarios where Murakami is effectively a lite version of Kyle Schwarber’s skill set — but eight years younger with more defensive value as a competent first baseman. The range of outcomes is all over the place on Murakami, but the upside here is tantalizing enough that we’re predicting a huge investment — likely one with opt-outs along the way.

We already have one of those guys in Santander, not sure we need another all or nothing hitter.

Dodgers just won the WS because they had HR hitters throughout their lineup that could change the game on one swing (well that and Yamamoto).

Jays should be adding as much power as they possibly can.

[JN]

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This is shocking

Unless something changed dramatically overnight, Jays are +2000.
Next closest is NYY at +425


Bichette is -210 though

Do you mean +200 or +2000.
Only reason I ask is that you say next closest is NYY at +425.

Just want to know if its +200 or +2000 as they both imply very different things about our potential chances

[cHiNoz]

This is shocking

Unless something changed dramatically overnight, Jays are +2000.
Next closest is NYY at +425


Bichette is -210 though

Do you mean +200 or +2000.
Only reason I ask is that you say next closest is NYY at +425.

Just want to know if its +200 or +2000 as they both imply very different things about our potential chances

no it's +2000 (seems really unlikely we even attempt an offer)

Dodgers +325
NYY +425
MYM +450

[Raptors Realtor]

We should be Dodgers East and go after:

Japanese slugger Munetaka Murakami - https://www.mlb.com/news/munetaka-murakami-mlb-star-potential-analysis

Apparently an 80 Grade on power! LOL Plays 3rd base - Though he has a lot of swing and miss:

We already have one of those guys in Santander, not sure we need another all or nothing hitter.

Dodgers just won the WS because they had HR hitters throughout their lineup that could change the game on one swing (well that and Yamamoto).

Jays should be adding as much power as they possibly can.

Ya, but their main homerun hitters are guys like Ohtani, Freeman and Smith who also hit for average.

[Michael Bradley]

Murakami has trouble with high velocity and strikes out a ton. No chance the Jays are in on that guy, much less willing to outbid a bunch of teams to get him.

[JCP11]

We should be Dodgers East and go after:

Japanese slugger Munetaka Murakami - https://www.mlb.com/news/munetaka-murakami-mlb-star-potential-analysis

Apparently an 80 Grade on power! LOL Plays 3rd base - Though he has a lot of swing and miss:

We already have one of those guys in Santander, not sure we need another all or nothing hitter.

Dodgers just won the WS because they had HR hitters throughout their lineup that could change the game on one swing (well that and Yamamoto).

Jays should be adding as much power as they possibly can.

I don't think that's the main reason why they won. Yamamoto is honestly the biggest reason why they won, the offensive numbers throughout the playoffs and the WS favor the blue Jays except solo HRs. Varsho is a HR hitter with swing and miss and with all the opportunities he had if it was a contact guy Jays would be WS champions. I think they have plenty of power, they just need to upgrade the pitching.

[Randle McMurphy]

We already have one of those guys in Santander, not sure we need another all or nothing hitter.

Dodgers just won the WS because they had HR hitters throughout their lineup that could change the game on one swing (well that and Yamamoto).

Jays should be adding as much power as they possibly can.

I don't think that's the main reason why they won. Yamamoto is honestly the biggest reason why they won, the offensive numbers throughout the playoffs and the WS favor the blue Jays except solo HRs. Varsho is a HR hitter with swing and miss and with all the opportunities he had if it was a contact guy Jays would be WS champions. I think they have plenty of power, they just need to upgrade the pitching.

Uh yeah, that's the point. Solo HRs are a lot more helpful and impactful than singles, which the Jays hit a lot of. And if Varsho (or anybody else) hit one more HR in games 3, 6, or 7, they win the WS. Instead, the Dodgers closed the WS with 3 consecutive HRs.

Power still wins most of the time in MLB and it did again this season.

[JCP11]

Dodgers just won the WS because they had HR hitters throughout their lineup that could change the game on one swing (well that and Yamamoto).

Jays should be adding as much power as they possibly can.

I don't think that's the main reason why they won. Yamamoto is honestly the biggest reason why they won, the offensive numbers throughout the playoffs and the WS favor the blue Jays except solo HRs. Varsho is a HR hitter with swing and miss and with all the opportunities he had if it was a contact guy Jays would be WS champions. I think they have plenty of power, they just need to upgrade the pitching.

Uh yeah, that's the point. Solo HRs are a lot more helpful and impactful than singles, which the Jays hit a lot of. And if Varsho (or anybody else) hit one more HR in games 3, 6, or 7, they win the WS. Instead, the Dodgers closed the WS with 3 consecutive HRs.

Power still wins most of the time in MLB and it did again this season.

It's still not the main reason why they lost. If the Jays had nobody on base and couldn't score I'd agree but they had many chances where all they needed was a simple sacrifice fly, a single or even a dribbler in the infield in all of games 3, 6 and 7. They put themselves in prime positions to win all of the games they lost where no HRs were necessarily needed. The Dodgers were the ones who needed those HRs they often couldn't do anything on offense throughout the series, they didn't even score more than 5 runs in any of the games and 2 games needed extra innings which is crazy. I'm not saying it's not important but it's FAR from the reason why Jays lost.

[dagger]

Bellinger's wife apparently posted a photo of the CN Tower on Instagram. Can't verify if it's legit but it wouldn't surprise me, and of course, free agents want to goose the market with some intrigue

[Randle McMurphy]

Bellinger's wife apparently posted a photo of the CN Tower on Instagram. Can't verify if it's legit but it wouldn't surprise me, and of course, free agents want to goose the market with some intrigue

That's a meme dating back to last offseason

[polo007]

vladdyjr27 • 4h

2025,

I KNEW YOU WOULD BE SPECIAL WHEN I KNEW I WOULD BE A BLUE JAY FOREVER.

I DON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO SAY. A YEAR THAT CHANGED MY LIFE. A YEAR THAT MADE ME APPRECIATE TIMES THAT DIDN’T MAKE SENSE. A YEAR I WILL FRAME FOREVER.

TO MY FAMILY, FANS, TEAMMATES, BLUE JAYS ORGANIZATION, AND MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL:

THE ABOVE WOULDN’T BE POSSIBLE TO SAY WITHOUT ALL OF YOU.

WE WERE BORN READY. WE STAY READY.

LOVE,

VLADDY

[SharoneWright]

HR’s are great.

In this particular World Series, the difference was also easy as Nathan Lukes not swinging at a single pitch delivered by Clayton Kershaw.

[ItsDanger]

Blue Jays had numerous chances to win the series. Dodgers were fortunate it wasn't over in 5 games. You can't make firm conclusions on solo homers. Seattle hit solo homers and lost. Wonder what they think about that theory?