NBA is considering European expansion. Real Madrid, PSG, Man City, team in Germany are on the list

[K N U C K L E S]

The product is massively boring. I find it hard to believe there is a groundswell for expansion right now.

Yeah. If
this happened, wouldn't you have alot of sub .500 teams making the playoffs every season? Look at the league now. You might only have 5 teams over .500 making the playoffs in the East(And a +.500 team not even making the play in in the West). Shouldn't the league fix the West dominant conference imbalance problem that has existed since Jordan's Bulls broke up before expanding? This tells you that Silver is all about the money. He doesn't care how bad the product looks until it starts losing money.

[Xatticus]

I'm opposed. European clubs still play basketball, as opposed to what the NBA has morphed into. I can't imagine why the big clubs would want a new overlord unless the NBA makes some heavy financial guarantees.

[JayMKE]

Silver talking about his ass

There is not ever going to be European expansion not unless they invent teleportation

[stepic]

It’ll be a second league, not them joining the nba

[K N U C K L E S]

Also, if a player switches teams and goes from a team in the US to a team in Australia or China, wouldn't that be a major life upheaval for them and a major culture shock? Being traded from the East coast to the West coast here is just moving a few thousand miles and maybe a small culture shock. Wouldn't players be really concerned about the possibility of being traded to the otherside of the world, especially In this era of professional sports where in all 4 sports, most players change teams as often as a woman changes tampons? You'd probably have alot more contracts with no trade clauses if this happens.

[K N U C K L E S]

Silver talking about his ass

There is not ever going to be European expansion not unless they invent teleportation

That would be a really bad idea. Teleporters would eliminate a billion jobs and implode the world economy, if AI doesn't do it first.

[Coach Carter]

Silver's desperation for views

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[dhsilv2]

I am european and I don't want It. Nba should be as is. Even Toronto playing is a little bit strange, but after so many years is acceptable.


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Other than the silly "national" part of the name which is dated obviously. Why would the NBA not want to expand the brand globally? Seems good for global fans and the whole point of being the best league is to spread it to as many people as possible.

[Lalouie]

silver really needs a makeup do-over

[YogurtProducer]

I am european and I don't want It. Nba should be as is. Even Toronto playing is a little bit strange, but after so many years is acceptable.


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What is weird about Toronto playing...?

[Zeno]

How is this going to be any different than just basically moving the g league to Europe and attempting to sell it by piggybacking on the name recognition of big football teams? This is probably more about getting to investment money from sources the nba currently has limited access to than any delusion that it will actually work in any way.

[Mephariel]

I am european and I don't want It. Nba should be as is. Even Toronto playing is a little bit strange, but after so many years is acceptable.


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Other than the silly "national" part of the name which is dated obviously. Why would the NBA not want to expand the brand globally? Seems good for global fans and the whole point of being the best league is to spread it to as many people as possible.

I agree. Whether it works or not, NBA Europe sounds like a great idea to capture a new fanbase locally, and create new basketball hubs like in the UK.

[bkkrh]

So basically you locate most teams in cities where most people don´t care about Basketball and try to target the fanbases of Football clubs in cities that are deeply split in local rivalries and say "we will take one of those 2 teams" .

Looking forward to Silver´s press conference the first time something happens that would be considered a fan riot in the NBA.

Also, who is actually supposed to play for those teams? Will the UK teams just constantly be completely annihilated, since their national team doesn´t have a single player that plays in the Euroleague and recently lost to Germany 57-120? Or will they fill up the rosters with unsigned NBA free agents and foreign players?

I´m sure those Manchester fans are already hyped by finally being able to see Trey Lyles and Moses Brown live in action .

[Cavsfansince84]

Silver talking about his ass

There is not ever going to be European expansion not unless they invent teleportation

Generally agree though it wouldn't be that surprising imo if we finally get some kind of true high speed travel connecting Europe, Asia and the Americas within the next 10-15 years. If they can get a train or plane that can get from Berlin to LA in like 5-6 hours it becomes feasible for the nba to add a bunch of teams to Europe or incorporate existing ones.

[gbv]

Concorde type airplanes are supposedly coming back next year so it may be possible sooner than we think. NY to London would be about 3.5 hours.

[sisibilio]

First thing that comes to mind is revenue for does big euro teams.
Real Madrid as football club is rich but im pretty sure our basketball team was losing money few seasons ago.
Like few weeks ago i was looking at best paid players in europe and i was kinda shocked.Mirotic got that big as.s contract that was then bought out or something.I was thinking numbers still should be big but then i saw that biggest numbers are around 4 mill and i was kinda shocked

Real Madrid loses 20+ million a year.

[sisibilio]

PSG and Man City don’t have basketball teams. Paris Basketball is a fairly recently established team unrelated to PSG in the euro league.
Manchester’s only pro team plays in an arena that has a capacity of 2000…

Fake news

Lol this is not fake news, this whole thing been most of was talked about during Paris trip. We know PSG and City doesn't have basketball teams, duh, the whole idea is to take richest sport franchises in the world and make them participators, they would form basketball

Duh, how did I not think of that?! Duh… Real Madrid have been struggling to get quality players for their women’s soccer team that they established 3-4 seasons ago, they were never able to start a handball team even though they’d tried. It’s so easy to just add new divisions to multi sport clubs, duh. Even PSG and City couldn’t add teams that would cost hundreds of millions of dollars just to start. Duh… Real Madrid’s revenue is 1.05 billion, the other teams don’t even reach 850 million euros. Madrid’s profit was only 16 million euros. You really think these teams will add 140+ million in salaries and that number excludes any other expenses…

Real Madrid never had the intention to create a handball team, if it were up to his president he'd even get rid of the basketball team. He was basically forced to create the women's soccer team.

[mattg]

It's a blatant cash grab by the NBA to use their licensing to make money. It's entirely trying to smash a square peg into a round hole. Silver is just obviously trying to convert some European Soccer fans into basketball/NBA fans by using existing brands. But that shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how European Club fandom works. No one in the UK is going to care about the Manchester United Falcons or whatever dumb name Silver attaches to them. And many of these famous clubs will not spend the massive franchise licensing fee that Silver wants of 500m, they don't cash flow at that level (though I'm sure Silver is just hoping for the middle eastern blood money to come pouring in). What is the actual ROI on that 500m licensing fee when the fans aren't going to care? It's going to be the NBA taking all that money and then effing off.

[sisibilio]

If you know how much European football fans hate UEFA and FIFA, I can't even imagine how they'd react to the NBA. Same goes for ticket prices. Would still be priceless to see Adam Silver's face when the first pyros go off.

Still the list of names already suggest failure. You literally have 1 country were fans really care about Basketball. If you want to have a chance to reach NBA level attendances you basically have to pick Spain, Turkey, Greece, Serbia. Good ludk with convincing those fans to watch Basketball as a consumer product^^.

Netball is more popular in England than Basketball, the only reason they targeting Man City is Saudi money.

is it, every time Nba plays in England it's always packed, my concern is could they withhold that throughout the season, I think England is a bad choice, I understand because based population it's good, other cites would have fit the criteria despite having a smaller population.

London isn't England, 30% of the population isn't british probably, lots of NBA fans there.
Manchester is a different story, i don't think that can work in the long run.