The Lauri Markkanen trade situation

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Question for Jazz fans ITT: does the Kessler injury make a Lauri trade less likely, more likely, or no difference?

Unclear, the Jazz have always disliked Kessler and Kessler has always disliked the Jazz so it's not clear the relationship was ever long-term. The Jazz were trying to lose games this year anyway.

The Jazz are obviously trying to trade him to the Heat or Spurs right now, we'll see if either team bites.

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Question for Jazz fans ITT: does the Kessler injury make a Lauri trade less likely, more likely, or no difference?

Unclear, the Jazz have always disliked Kessler and Kessler has always disliked the Jazz so it's not clear the relationship was ever long-term. The Jazz were trying to lose games this year anyway.

This is guano crazy.

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Question for Jazz fans ITT: does the Kessler injury make a Lauri trade less likely, more likely, or no difference?

Unclear, the Jazz have always disliked Kessler and Kessler has always disliked the Jazz so it's not clear the relationship was ever long-term. The Jazz were trying to lose games this year anyway.

This is guano crazy.

The Jazz immediately tried to replace Kessler with Kristaps Porzingis after his rookie season, flirted with replacing Kessler with literally Zach Edey after his second season, told Kessler to play in summer league in his 3rd season, called him soft nonstop through the media, and then did not offer much of anything in extension talks.

In general, Kessler fits none of what Hardy wants in a center (he wants a hyper mobile and high skill guy) and the scheme is built to maximize all of Kessler's faults (which is why his on/off impact is so bad) so it's not clear why this relationship has continued.

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BOS gives: Derrick White, Anfernee Simons
BOS gets: Markannen, maybe some change from HOU?

HOU gives: contracts/assets
HOU gets: White

Utah gives: Markannen
Utah gets: Simons, contracts/assets from HOU

I'm basing this on what seems to be the sentiment that White is more valuable than Markannen so BOS could get some leftover change from what HOU sends Utah out of their total package for White. BOS sheds more salary (within $3M of ducking the lux tax which they can get the rest of the way by moving spare parts for pro rated minimums). When Tatum comes back they can move him to SF so he has more size advantage against matchups and give him less of a scoring load.

BOS would love to shave off more 2025-26 salary to duck under the 2nd apron even further (how far are they from 1st apron post trade?). Lauri gives them a high quality role player/fringle all-star big to trio up with the Js next season, ala Bosh to Lebron/DWade. White hasnt had a good season yet, but BOS is in a rough spot without Tatum.

HOU would 100% be game to give White a shot, especially with FVV out, if contracts/assets outgoing arent much (im talking DFS or Jabari Smith Jr + spare parts + draft capital that isnt too extreme)

UTA is where it fall apart. Simons's expiring is a good start (i'm still salty at how POR bailed BOS out of being in 2nd apron cap hell), but i dont see whatever assets HOU forks out will be considered attractive enough. Maybe Jabari Smith Jr + picks, but those picks are likely to be very late unless theyre super far out (short term with KD+White+HOU core theyre gonna be very solid), and i dont see HOU mortgaging their future. Utah has been holding Lauri for so long, if they dont get their HR Ainge take the other GM behind the woodshed style of offer, i just dont see it.

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BOS gives: Derrick White, Anfernee Simons
BOS gets: Markannen, maybe some change from HOU?

HOU gives: contracts/assets
HOU gets: White

Utah gives: Markannen
Utah gets: Simons, contracts/assets from HOU

I'm basing this on what seems to be the sentiment that White is more valuable than Markannen so BOS could get some leftover change from what HOU sends Utah out of their total package for White. BOS sheds more salary (within $3M of ducking the lux tax which they can get the rest of the way by moving spare parts for pro rated minimums). When Tatum comes back they can move him to SF so he has more size advantage against matchups and give him less of a scoring load.

BOS would love to shave off more 2025-26 salary to duck under the 2nd apron even further (how far are they from 1st apron post trade?). Lauri gives them a high quality role player/fringle all-star big to trio up with the Js next season, ala Bosh to Lebron/DWade. White hasnt had a good season yet, but BOS is in a rough spot without Tatum.

HOU would 100% be game to give White a shot, especially with FVV out, if contracts/assets outgoing arent much (im talking DFS or Jabari Smith Jr + spare parts + draft capital that isnt too extreme)

UTA is where it fall apart. Simons's expiring is a good start (i'm still salty at how POR bailed BOS out of being in 2nd apron cap hell), but i dont see whatever assets HOU forks out will be considered attractive enough. Maybe Jabari Smith Jr + picks, but those picks are likely to be very late unless theyre super far out (short term with KD+White+HOU core theyre gonna be very solid), and i dont see HOU mortgaging their future. Utah has been holding Lauri for so long, if they dont get their HR Ainge take the other GM behind the woodshed style of offer, i just dont see it.

POR did not bail out BOS. POR got rid of a guy that did not play winning basketball for one who does.

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Question for Jazz fans ITT: does the Kessler injury make a Lauri trade less likely, more likely, or no difference?

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The Jazz are obviously trying to trade him to the Heat or Spurs right now, we'll see if either team bites.

What makes this obvious? I haven't seen anything about the Heat being interested in Kessler and haven't seen anything about the Spurs since the offseason.

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Question for Jazz fans ITT: does the Kessler injury make a Lauri trade less likely, more likely, or no difference?

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The Jazz are obviously trying to trade him to the Heat or Spurs right now, we'll see if either team bites.

What makes this obvious? I haven't seen anything about the Heat being interested in Kessler and haven't seen anything about the Spurs since the offseason.

I was talking about Lauri, not Kessler since the question was about a Lauri trade.

Lauri makes a lot of sense for the Heat just because of their willingness to use off-ball screens instead of just constant pick-and-roll.

There could be other teams, I was just giving a couple examples for some reason.

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The Jazz are obviously trying to trade him to the Heat or Spurs right now, we'll see if either team bites.

What makes this obvious? I haven't seen anything about the Heat being interested in Kessler and haven't seen anything about the Spurs since the offseason.

I was talking about Lauri, not Kessler since the question was about a Lauri trade.

Lauri makes a lot of sense for the Heat just because of their willingness to use off-ball screens instead of just constant pick-and-roll.

There could be other teams, I was just giving a couple examples for some reason.

ah, sorry, misunderstood!