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Post#341 » by nzahir » Yesterday 7:12 pm

Who are the best wing defenders that should/could be available this year?

6'6-6'9

Asking for the Lakers, but in general

As of now:
Naji Marshall, Wiggins, Thybulle

Could Nola move Herb Jones? What would he even cost?
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Post#342 » by Mavrelous » Yesterday 7:37 pm

Marshall isn't the defender Lakers need.
Add DJJ to your watch list, fits brilliantly with Luka, better than Thybulle.
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Post#343 » by zimpy27 » Yesterday 9:45 pm

White or Jrue to Mavs

I think a trade will come like this to upgrade Klay with a playmaker that can help now and when Kyrie returns.

I imagine Klay+PJ are on the table. What would these teams need?
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Post#344 » by Godaddycurse » Yesterday 10:04 pm

zimpy27 wrote:White or Jrue to Mavs

I think a trade will come like this to upgrade Klay with a playmaker that can help now and when Kyrie returns.

I imagine Klay+PJ are on the table. What would these teams need?


Pj cant be traded
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Post#345 » by jayjaysee » Yesterday 10:06 pm

zimpy27 wrote:White or Jrue to Mavs

I think a trade will come like this to upgrade Klay with a playmaker that can help now and when Kyrie returns.

I imagine Klay+PJ are on the table. What would these teams need?


PJ can’t be traded this season.

Gafford, Klay, Naji, smaller salaries should be in the table.

With how Dallas has looked, I’d hope the 2031 first is only available for a true star.. But trading the LAL first for Jrue would be a nice finish to the Luka trade..
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Post#346 » by zimpy27 » Yesterday 10:12 pm

jayjaysee wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:White or Jrue to Mavs

I think a trade will come like this to upgrade Klay with a playmaker that can help now and when Kyrie returns.

I imagine Klay+PJ are on the table. What would these teams need?


PJ can’t be traded this season.

Gafford, Klay, Naji, smaller salaries should be in the table.

With how Dallas has looked, I’d hope the 2031 first is only available for a true star.. But trading the LAL first for Jrue would be a nice finish to the Luka trade..


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Post#347 » by jayjaysee » Yesterday 10:41 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:White or Jrue to Mavs

I think a trade will come like this to upgrade Klay with a playmaker that can help now and when Kyrie returns.

I imagine Klay+PJ are on the table. What would these teams need?


PJ can’t be traded this season.

Gafford, Klay, Naji, smaller salaries should be in the table.

With how Dallas has looked, I’d hope the 2031 first is only available for a true star.. But trading the LAL first for Jrue would be a nice finish to the Luka trade..


Klay+Christie+LAL29FRP


I am the one posting Dallas tank ideas so not interested if it costs any asset..

But even taking away my bias.. I can’t see Jrue being worth a distant unprotected first at 35 years old. And Christie’s inclusion feels overkill.

Before Jrue was traded for Simons, there were plenty of Gafford/Klay/seconds posts here. A lot by me, but some others..

I only bring up the LAL first as a nice way to finish Nico’s time in Dallas. Would love Jrue in Dallas and it likely would save this season, but would cost any real chance of retooling around Flagg..
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Post#348 » by Astaluego » Today 12:07 am

DDR/Carter/Monk and how many and which picks for AD? Where or who would want Monk and DDR for expiring contracts?..
DDR to HEAT?
Monk to HOUSTON?
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Post#349 » by jayjaysee » Today 12:13 am

Astaluego wrote:DDR/Carter/Monk and how many and which picks for AD? Where or who would want Monk and DDR for expiring contracts?..
DDR to HEAT?
Monk to HOUSTON?


I feel like a couple weeks ago I would have wanted 3 firsts for AD in this model.. one being the Minn first?… But I’m kind of leaning towards only two firsts sadly.

And I don’t think Miami wants Demar. They already have a good offense and Herro hasn’t played yet.
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Post#350 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Today 12:51 am

jayjaysee wrote:Assuming AD can only return “2 firsts” due to availability concerns… Is it better to tank with him and go into next season with him and Kyrie leading Cooper and 2026 first as suggested?

Or do you take the two extra firsts, have a worse team next season but be in a better position long term?

Okc for Dallas pick swap and the worst first they are willing to give.
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Post#351 » by jayjaysee » Today 1:07 am

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:Assuming AD can only return “2 firsts” due to availability concerns… Is it better to tank with him and go into next season with him and Kyrie leading Cooper and 2026 first as suggested?

Or do you take the two extra firsts, have a worse team next season but be in a better position long term?

Okc for Dallas pick swap and the worst first they are willing to give.


I think by 2027-2028, Dallas can be borderline respectable and not care about giving OKC a pick in the teens if they commit to a tank this season. Especially since they don’t own the 2027 pick. Will be building a roster around Cooper/whoever next year.. just to blow it up and tank in Cooper’s third year?

And I can’t see OKC wanting to tie themselves to AD’s contract honestly. Despite the potential of him helping them have an even more historic year this season - that’s an unrealistic amount of salary next year..
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Post#352 » by nzahir » Today 1:41 am

Mavrelous wrote:Marshall isn't the defender Lakers need.
Add DJJ to your watch list, fits brilliantly with Luka, better than Thybulle.

Why not Marshall?

Never watched much, but he is also probably not a high enough calibar guy

DJJ would be pretty nice, but I also wonder if he is good enough

Herb Jones would be perfect

But all we have is 1 1st, Knecht, Thiero, expiring, and swaps

Unless we can somehow take on a very bad deal+Knecht for another 1st and then send out 2 1sts, Thiero, and a swap. Not sure Nola moves him thougn
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Post#353 » by Mavrelous » Today 3:38 am

nzahir wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Marshall isn't the defender Lakers need.
Add DJJ to your watch list, fits brilliantly with Luka, better than Thybulle.

Why not Marshall?

Never watched much, but he is also probably not a high enough calibar guy

DJJ would be pretty nice, but I also wonder if he is good enough

Herb Jones would be perfect

But all we have is 1 1st, Knecht, Thiero, expiring, and swaps

Unless we can somehow take on a very bad deal+Knecht for another 1st and then send out 2 1sts, Thiero, and a swap. Not sure Nola moves him thougn

Marshall isn't a good defender, he's not bad, but he isn't someone you put on POA and expect to navigate screens and close.out.
You need athletes next to Luka and Reaves, that's why I'm not high on this iteration on the Lakers.
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Post#354 » by YayBasketball » Today 4:23 am

Trade challenge, get Zion and Poole off the Pelicans. They've been really fun without them.
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Post#355 » by zimpy27 » Today 5:04 am

jayjaysee wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:
PJ can’t be traded this season.

Gafford, Klay, Naji, smaller salaries should be in the table.

With how Dallas has looked, I’d hope the 2031 first is only available for a true star.. But trading the LAL first for Jrue would be a nice finish to the Luka trade..


Klay+Christie+LAL29FRP


I am the one posting Dallas tank ideas so not interested if it costs any asset..

But even taking away my bias.. I can’t see Jrue being worth a distant unprotected first at 35 years old. And Christie’s inclusion feels overkill.

Before Jrue was traded for Simons, there were plenty of Gafford/Klay/seconds posts here. A lot by me, but some others..

I only bring up the LAL first as a nice way to finish Nico’s time in Dallas. Would love Jrue in Dallas and it likely would save this season, but would cost any real chance of retooling around Flagg..


Thinking more White. Jrue feels a bit old.
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Post#356 » by tester551 » Today 7:21 am

jayjaysee wrote:
tester551 wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
Houston fans are convinced they want defense not offense from the PG spot..

Interested in a lightly used Jrue Holiday?


Know this was about Houston and I do not expect Portland to want to move Jrue but…

If Nico doesn’t want to do the smart thing and have the team take this season off.. Dallas should still be interested in Jrue.

What does Dallas have as assets?
Flagg & Chrstie are the only players that I would be remotely interested in
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Post#357 » by SkyHook » Today 1:33 pm

YayBasketball wrote:Trade challenge, get Zion and Poole off the Pelicans. They've been really fun without them.

Trey is seriously fun to watch. I've coveted that kid for a while. Would have broken the bank to pair him with Dyson long term.
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Post#358 » by jayjaysee » 3 minutes ago

tester551 wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:
tester551 wrote:Interested in a lightly used Jrue Holiday?


Know this was about Houston and I do not expect Portland to want to move Jrue but…

If Nico doesn’t want to do the smart thing and have the team take this season off.. Dallas should still be interested in Jrue.

What does Dallas have as assets?
Flagg & Chrstie are the only players that I would be remotely interested in


I don’t know what a 35 year old Jrue is actually worth. I dont think it’s a lot. Before he was a Blazer, I only was suggesting Gaff/Klay/seconds or. Naji/stacked salaries instead of Gaff if it can work... I don’t think anything should have changed.

Nico probably is willing to pay more than I am because he might be trying to get this team to look less tragic.

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