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Re: AJ Dybantsa 

Post#221 » by peZt » Yesterday 8:05 pm

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peZt wrote:Tbf I was also a bit sceptical of him after the fiba u19. Tho I only saw highlights there but he somewhat reminded me of RJ Barrett in the bad sense

But now I’ve seen his exhibition matches and this one live and I’m blown away. None of this stiffness that reminded me of RJ to be seen. I had the impression he was more of a stiff, straight line power dribbler. But man he looks so insanely twitchy and explosive while at the same time super nimble as well. Super rare combination and a surefire combination to stardom.

I have to agree with the one poster above me, my thoughts at some points were „man he moves and plays just like LeBron in High School“. Something about his movements and handles reminds me a lot of that version of LeBron


RJ and AJ never played alike lol. It’s like people don’t watch these players at all. RJ is a purely north south player with very little lateral movement. AJ is an east west player with a lot of wiggle and lateral movement. It’s just a lazy comparison. Plus AJ’s footwork was always better than RJ and he relies on midrange game way more. AJ is reminiscent of 2000s wing. Ceiling is TMac



„It’s like people don’t watch these players at all“

Dude I literally write in the post which you quoted that I didn’t see him a lot and only in short highlight videos and that I changed my opinion on him now that I saw him play. Chill your balls

And I rated him below DP explicitly because he didn’t show as much lateral and wiggle in these highlight videos as I had hoped because that’s the #1 thing I look for in a perimeter player. I hate prospect like RJ or Wiggins or Harrison Barnes who have 0 wiggle and change of direction and only drive in a straight line. And I saw mostly straight line power dribbles like from RJ in the short clips that I saw that’s where my impression of him came that he was a straight line driver like RJ that mostly comes from power and not finesse and wiggle. And I didn’t like how „tough“ some of the shots he made were and how hard he made it look. That’s also a sign I don’t want to see in as top prospect, they need to make things easy. Not struggle and fight for every basket

And I changed my opinion because I watched the game against Villanova in full and he explicitly showed this wiggle and change of direction ability snd completely suprised me in that aspect.

So chill out, I’m sure if you watch a 2 minute highlight video of a guy you never saw before you would 100% know exactly what kind of player he is and have a final and correct opinion of him…
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Re: AJ Dybantsa 

Post#222 » by threethehardway » Yesterday 8:19 pm

tontoz wrote:From what I've seen AJs first step really is all that. College ball doesn't suit him because there is no illegal D so teams can pack the paint.

AJ isn't just fast, he is physical as well. He is like a smaller, quicker version of Giannis. I don't see how any single player will be able to stay in front of him.


I don't think he'll get by NBA players like that.

And Giannis had a better handle and gets lower than him. Giannis also has a quicker and tighter handle and will get low with his crossover and blow by his man.

I wouldn't compare AJ to any HOF player.

What makes tall guys have natural guard skills, is that they play lower than their size.

It's the reason why despite having track speed in his prime Wiggins couldn't blow by his man at will and had to settle for mid-range jumpers, he plays too high.

When AJ is playing out of the triple threat and he rips through, he can be blinding fast and catches his man off guard.

Sizing up off the dribble, in the half court,no. His handle isn't tight and he doesn't stay low enough.

Just look at young Cavs Lebron play and see how he is.
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Re: AJ Dybantsa 

Post#223 » by tontoz » Yesterday 8:23 pm

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tontoz wrote:From what I've seen AJs first step really is all that. College ball doesn't suit him because there is no illegal D so teams can pack the paint.

AJ isn't just fast, he is physical as well. He is like a smaller, quicker version of Giannis. I don't see how any single player will be able to stay in front of him.


I don't think he'll get by NBA players like that.

And Giannis had a better handle and gets lower than him.

I wouldn't compare AJ to any HOF player.



I disagree on both fronts. I think AJ will get past guys routinely in the NBA.
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Re: AJ Dybantsa 

Post#224 » by bigboi » Yesterday 8:25 pm

threethehardway wrote:
tontoz wrote:From what I've seen AJs first step really is all that. College ball doesn't suit him because there is no illegal D so teams can pack the paint.

AJ isn't just fast, he is physical as well. He is like a smaller, quicker version of Giannis. I don't see how any single player will be able to stay in front of him.


I don't think he'll get by NBA players like that.

And Giannis had a better handle and gets lower than him. Giannis also has a quicker and tighter handle and will get low with his crossover and blow by his man.

I wouldn't compare AJ to any HOF player.


You’re trolling lmao. Dybantsa has better handle and a better first step than Giannis. Lmao. He was the primary ball handler for BYU majority of the game as their PG is trash. Regardless Giannis gets to the paint at will so not sure how that’s a slight either
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Lebron made it to the finals with that cleveland team.

Bird would have won 4 rings with that team, in this weak ass era of basketball.
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Re: AJ Dybantsa 

Post#225 » by threethehardway » Yesterday 8:30 pm

tontoz wrote:
I disagree on both fronts. I think AJ will get past guys routinely in the NBA.


AJ can't even get to where he wants to at will in college.
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Re: AJ Dybantsa 

Post#226 » by bigboi » Yesterday 8:33 pm

threethehardway wrote:
tontoz wrote:
I disagree on both fronts. I think AJ will get past guys routinely in the NBA.


AJ can't even get to where he wants to at will in college.


Huh? He literally got to wherever he wanted and lived in the paint last game
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Lebron made it to the finals with that cleveland team.

Bird would have won 4 rings with that team, in this weak ass era of basketball.
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Re: AJ Dybantsa 

Post#227 » by tontoz » Yesterday 8:39 pm

threethehardway wrote:
tontoz wrote:
I disagree on both fronts. I think AJ will get past guys routinely in the NBA.


AJ can't even get to where he wants to at will in college.


You obviously didn't watch the game. He got by his man routinely. It was only guys packed in the paint that stopped him at times.
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Re: AJ Dybantsa 

Post#228 » by peZt » Yesterday 8:58 pm

threethehardway wrote:
tontoz wrote:
I disagree on both fronts. I think AJ will get past guys routinely in the NBA.


AJ can't even get to where he wants to at will in college.


You got me agreeing with bigboi man. That’s how wrong this statement is.
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Re: AJ Dybantsa 

Post#229 » by threethehardway » Yesterday 9:15 pm

bigboi wrote:Huh? He literally got to wherever he wanted and lived in the paint last game


They was giving him the drive to meet him at the rim, where instead of finishing strong because he's 6'9, he would stop and do a weird floater/layup.

It doesn't matter if he can get into paint because they are escorting him into no man's land because he wasn't taking the mid-range shot but gets beat on his 4th step and forcing him to pull up.

And a lot of that was just him coming off a pick and having a run way where the defender is retreating.

Like I said, there's a difference between super athletic for college game, which he is.

And super athletic for the NBA, which he is not. He isn't 2005 Lebron, who would blow by you on a standstill and beat the rotation and finish strong at the rim.

With the space that they were giving AJ Dybansta to run himself into no man's land, high school Lebron would've just dunked all over the defense.

College Zion would've dunked all of over them.

AJ even got a met at the rim against Villanova and blocked because he couldn't clear his man.

If the defense is escorting a ball handler to the rim, to let them get into the paint and the ball handler is having to muscle up shots or take an awkward half floater or a pull up shot, they didn't beat their man. Their man is sliding with them.

Why you think they started doing double pick and rolls, and have him snaking the ball? He wasn't blowing by, he was getting escorted and occasionally walled off. The best thing about him is his willingness to take contact and that he doesn't panic when doubled.

You guys are the are ones comparing him to HOFers with outlier athleticism and ability.

Some of you guys were the same people that was comparing Jabari Smith to KD when Jabari Smith could only dribble with one hand and it was obvious that he can't dribble.
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Re: AJ Dybantsa 

Post#230 » by bigboi » Today 3:38 am

I seen enough. Buddy is number 1
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Lebron made it to the finals with that cleveland team.

Bird would have won 4 rings with that team, in this weak ass era of basketball.
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Re: AJ Dybantsa 

Post#231 » by King Ken » Today 3:36 pm

threethehardway wrote:
tontoz wrote:From what I've seen AJs first step really is all that. College ball doesn't suit him because there is no illegal D so teams can pack the paint.

AJ isn't just fast, he is physical as well. He is like a smaller, quicker version of Giannis. I don't see how any single player will be able to stay in front of him.


I don't think he'll get by NBA players like that.

And Giannis had a better handle and gets lower than him. Giannis also has a quicker and tighter handle and will get low with his crossover and blow by his man.

I wouldn't compare AJ to any HOF player.

What makes tall guys have natural guard skills, is that they play lower than their size.

It's the reason why despite having track speed in his prime Wiggins couldn't blow by his man at will and had to settle for mid-range jumpers, he plays too high.

When AJ is playing out of the triple threat and he rips through, he can be blinding fast and catches his man off guard.

Sizing up off the dribble, in the half court,no. His handle isn't tight and he doesn't stay low enough.

Just look at young Cavs Lebron play and see how he is.

Naw. Giannis first step at any phase of his career isn't close to AJ. Handle? Come on. No. AJ is a wing. Giannis has always been a forward.
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Re: AJ Dybantsa 

Post#232 » by threethehardway » Today 4:10 pm

King Ken wrote:Naw. Giannis first step at any phase of his career isn't close to AJ. Handle? Come on. No. AJ is a wing. Giannis has always been a forward.


No, like I said.

You are comparing a high school prospect and a college prospect who is playing against nobodies, to an NBA HOFer who gets by actual professional athletes.



Giannis crosses over and blows by adults.

Giannis can get around big men and forwards with his eurostep and he doesn't euro's into them constantly like AJ does.

Giannis with a runway actually will finish at the rim with a dunk at 6'11, instead of doing an awkward muscle up lay up because his 4th step isn't slow.

Giannis actually plays lower than his size and doesn't dribble high on his drives . Giannis actually understands angles and doesn't curve his drives when coming from the wing.

Like I said, if AJ Dybansta was out here doing hesi pull 3s, cause you know, he's supposed to be Tracy McGrady, isn't that Tracy McGrady's patented move, (I was looking at Durant in college and Durant was playing like actual pro basketball player, he was doing hesi pull ups while double teamed) I wouldn't say anything.

If AJ was dropping 30 and dunking everything, I wouldn't say anything.

If AJ was sizing his man up and hitting pull up midranges with all that space they give him, I wouldn't say anything.

Comparing elite HOFer players, that had professional style games at a young age against grown men, to a guy, that just has some traits. Like, he's fast out of the triple threat. He has good foot work from the post. He's physical. Every now and then he'll bust out a cool move and interesting foot work. But that's not Tracy McGrady or Giannis or Kevin Durant. That's Pascal Siakim.

Draft hypers let NBA bodied guy in high school do cool stuff against 5'10 centers and 5'5 point guards and then imagine them to be HOFers.

I wonder how long it took draft hypers to realize that Marvin Bagley wasn't the second coming of Kevin Durant.
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Re: AJ Dybantsa 

Post#233 » by Rainwater » 45 minutes ago

bigboi wrote:I seen enough. Buddy is number 1


Yeah, I didn't think he was at first but watching him in college he is. I don't think he is superstar but in this draft class he is. I see Rudy Gay and Jaylen Brown.

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