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Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2

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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#1261 » by Hal14 » Sat Nov 8, 2025 3:33 pm

Dogen wrote:
jfs1000d wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:If the Suns want to get out of Grayson Allen's contract then maybe Simons for Grayson and Richards is possible.

Suns are spending 80-90m for Booker and Jalen Green.
Maybe Grayson Allen is available.

Grayson looks like a good fit with the Cs.


Pass. No goons until we are a good team again.


Allen to Portland
Simons to Phoenix
Williams III to Boston

No thanks to the guy who's knees are trash and can never stay healthy. I'd rather keep Simons..

Love Rob though and wish him the best!
Nothing wrong with having a different opinion - as long as it's done respectfully. It'd be lame if we all agreed on everything :)
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#1262 » by keevsnick1 » Sat Nov 8, 2025 9:45 pm

Hal14 wrote:
Dogen wrote:
jfs1000d wrote:
Pass. No goons until we are a good team again.


Allen to Portland
Simons to Phoenix
Williams III to Boston

No thanks to the guy who's knees are trash and can never stay healthy. I'd rather keep Simons..


How about this:

Boston (saves 11.8 million)
Out: Anfernee Simons, Luka Garza
In: Robert Williams, Nick Richards

Portland:
Out: Robert Williams
In: Grayson Allen

Phoenix
Out: Nick Richards, Grayson Allen
In: Anfernee Simons, Luka Garza

Its works in the fan spo trade machine.

Celtics save a bunch of money, add both a solid backup center in Richards and a fan favorite in Williams. Suns open up more playing time for their young bigs in Malawach and Mark Williams, take on money this year but move off future money in Grayson Allens contract. Blazers get a pretty solid SG at decent money.

Maybe needs to be draft picks involved, probably going to Phoenix? But it both saves Boston money this year and maybe even makes them better the rest of the year. Robert Williams III would be center depth instead of being relied upon. They could take him and Richards into the Porzingis TPE and generate a new 27.6-million-dollar TPE from the Simons contract. They get rid of both Simons and Garza in one go.

Note: Garza can't be traded until December 15th.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#1263 » by redslastlaugh » Sat Nov 8, 2025 9:49 pm

Keevs is Cookin'! Sign Me up!!

keevsnick1 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
Dogen wrote:
Allen to Portland
Simons to Phoenix
Williams III to Boston

No thanks to the guy who's knees are trash and can never stay healthy. I'd rather keep Simons..


How about this:

Boston (saves 9.4 million)
Out: Anfernee Simons, Luka Garza
In: Robert Williams, Nick Richards

Portland:
Out: Robert Williams
In: Grayson Allen

Phoenix
Out: Nick Richards, Grayson Allen
In: Anfernee Simons, Luka Garza

Its works in the fan spo trade machine.

Celtics save a bunch of money, add both a solid backup center in Richards and a fan favorite in Williams. Suns open up more playing time for their young bigs in Malawach and Mark Williams, take on money this year but move off future money in Grayson Allens contract. Blazers get a pretty solid SG at decent money.

Maybe needs to be draft picks involved, probably going to Phoenix? But it both saves Boston money this year and maybe even makes them better the rest of the year. Robert Williams III would be center depth instead of being relied upon. They could take him and Richards into the Porzingis TPE and generate a new 27.6-million-dollar TPE from the Simons contract. They get rid of both Simons and Garza in one go
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#1264 » by keevsnick1 » Sat Nov 8, 2025 9:51 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:Keevs is Cookin'! Sign Me up!!

keevsnick1 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:No thanks to the guy who's knees are trash and can never stay healthy. I'd rather keep Simons..


How about this:

Boston (saves 9.4 million)
Out: Anfernee Simons, Luka Garza
In: Robert Williams, Nick Richards

Portland:
Out: Robert Williams
In: Grayson Allen

Phoenix
Out: Nick Richards, Grayson Allen
In: Anfernee Simons, Luka Garza

Its works in the fan spo trade machine.

Celtics save a bunch of money, add both a solid backup center in Richards and a fan favorite in Williams. Suns open up more playing time for their young bigs in Malawach and Mark Williams, take on money this year but move off future money in Grayson Allens contract. Blazers get a pretty solid SG at decent money.

Maybe needs to be draft picks involved, probably going to Phoenix? But it both saves Boston money this year and maybe even makes them better the rest of the year. Robert Williams III would be center depth instead of being relied upon. They could take him and Richards into the Porzingis TPE and generate a new 27.6-million-dollar TPE from the Simons contract. They get rid of both Simons and Garza in one go


Dogen's idea, just added Richards and Garza to make it even better for the Celtics (and to make the money work).

Its actually even better than I thought, it saves 11.8 million dollars which gets the C's VERY close (about 300K) from getting under the tax.

Unfortunately i don't think it works, the trade machine I used doesn't have the updates Suns roster which is right at the tax line, so they likely have no appetite for adding more money.

Its a huge problem for making trades, like 2/3's of the league is right at some tax/apron level which makes moving a guy making 27 million like Simons and taking back less money pretty hard.

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