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Re: PG: Back to .500 (5-5) 

Post#221 » by MEDIC » Mon Nov 10, 2025 2:02 am

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Tor_Raps wrote:Ive said it before and will say it again... this franchise wont be serious until they fire Darko and Bobby realizes we need a competent 3rd C.

Then theres the whole Dick/Walter/Ochai playing ahead of Battle. Other than that, it was a good performance from everyone else.


Yeah. I feel bad for Battle. The guy shows up time and time again to prove that he is the best 3 point shooter on the team. Hard worker. Great size.

At this point it's almost disrespect.

He'll eventually move on because he was never taken seriously here & he will go on to help a contender win a ship as a useful bench shooter. I can totally see that happening.


You guys sure have your favourites haha. All this commotion over Battle.


I mean........everyone has their preferences in players. I am sure you do too.
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Re: PG: Back to .500 (5-5) 

Post#222 » by LoveMyRaps » Mon Nov 10, 2025 2:35 am

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onions17 wrote:Ring back Aaron Bayne

Edit: or Rasho

Let’s NBA


What's our boy Aaron Gray up to?

Maybe time to call up the Aussie goat David Anderson or the steamer Greg Steimsma


Who's that bum we had during the COVID days? Looked a bit like Sideshow Bob

Can't recall his name...
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Re: PG: Back to .500 (5-5) 

Post#223 » by YogurtProducer » Mon Nov 10, 2025 2:50 am

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WaltFrazier wrote:Yeah I wasn't saying Eubanks is the answer, or better than Mamu. But I just saw him starting for SAC because Sabonis was out the other night. He has carved out a career in the league. Again I never understood why he was waived given the Raps lack of centers at the time, and since.

But sure, for the Raps a bigger quicker more athletic back-up C would be better

we have the luxury of waiting. its not like we're trying to win a championship. lets see if we can get a rim running big by the trade deadline

Luxury of waiting?


It's year 6 of waiting

It’s not like we’ve actively just turned away centers lol. Last time we acquired one this board lost its mind :lol:

In all honesty, playable centers might be the hardest position to fill in the NBA. There is like what… 15 worth paying?
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Re: PG: Back to .500 (5-5) 

Post#224 » by Rainman66 » Mon Nov 10, 2025 2:58 am

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Rainman66 wrote:Maybe time to call up the Aussie goat David Anderson or the steamer Greg Steimsma


Who's that bum we had during the COVID days? Looked a bit like Sideshow Bob

Can't recall his name...

Sideshow Freddy Gillespie was definetly not show worthy during the dark days
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Re: PG: Back to .500 (5-5) 

Post#225 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Mon Nov 10, 2025 4:37 am

for all the people nuthugging maxey he scored 33 points on 26 shots, interestingly enough when embiid is not playing. the game is a lot easier when you have another all nba player covering for your defensive miscues
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Re: PG: Back to .500 (5-5) 

Post#226 » by sbsat » Mon Nov 10, 2025 4:47 am

I dont understand why battle doesnt get playing time. Also gradey not getting enough run. The rotations darko runs will always be confusing
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Re: PG: Back to .500 (5-5) 

Post#227 » by HumbleRen » Mon Nov 10, 2025 4:48 am

AkelaLoneWolf wrote:for all the people nuthugging maxey he scored 33 points on 26 shots, interestingly enough when embiid is not playing. the game is a lot easier when you have another all nba player covering for your defensive miscues


That just means he wasn’t reliant on FT’s.

Still went 12/24 from the field and was a team high plus 21.

We had no answers for him.
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Post#228 » by bape_lovers » Mon Nov 10, 2025 4:49 am

Base on what you saying, there isn’t any then. I assume? Never heard of a 2 way pg. no team has one.

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bape_lovers wrote:I stop reading when you said harden/luka “not bad defensively”. And how is harden a pg? Isn’t he a sg??

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SGA is pretty good defensively but depends if you classify him as a PG lol but other than that, guys like Maxey/Curry/Harden/Brunson/Cade/Luka all range from bad on defense to "not terrible" but id hardly classify them as 2 way players lol


Harden and Luka are clearly in the "bad" end of the bad - not terrible spectrum I said lmao and Harden is quite obviously a PG.
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Post#229 » by WaltFrazier » Mon Nov 10, 2025 5:04 am

bape_lovers wrote:Base on what you saying, there isn’t any then. I assume? Never heard of a 2 way pg. no team has one.

Madvillainy2004 wrote:
bape_lovers wrote:I stop reading when you said harden/luka “not bad defensively”. And how is harden a pg? Isn’t he a sg??



Harden and Luka are clearly in the "bad" end of the bad - not terrible spectrum I said lmao and Harden is quite obviously a PG.


Champion Boston had two just a couple seasons ago, Jrue and Derrick White. Both were all defense I believe, and both Olympians.
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Re: PG: Back to .500 (5-5) 

Post#230 » by Tor_Raps » Mon Nov 10, 2025 5:39 am

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WaltFrazier wrote:Yeah I wasn't saying Eubanks is the answer, or better than Mamu. But I just saw him starting for SAC because Sabonis was out the other night. He has carved out a career in the league. Again I never understood why he was waived given the Raps lack of centers at the time, and since.

But sure, for the Raps a bigger quicker more athletic back-up C would be better

we have the luxury of waiting. its not like we're trying to win a championship. lets see if we can get a rim running big by the trade deadline

Luxury of waiting?


It's year 6 of waiting


Haha took the words right out of my mouth. We are a tax paying team who are trying to win this year. Can we stop with the excuses already lol.
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Post#231 » by Los_29 » Mon Nov 10, 2025 5:47 am

The FO gets a solid back-up C, and people are still complaining. Some people think there are a 100 uber athletic, rim running, rim protecting big men out there floating around. lol.
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Post#232 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Mon Nov 10, 2025 6:59 am

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Tripod wrote:
AkelaLoneWolf wrote:we have the luxury of waiting. its not like we're trying to win a championship. lets see if we can get a rim running big by the trade deadline

Luxury of waiting?


It's year 6 of waiting


Haha took the words right out of my mouth. We are a tax paying team who are trying to win this year. Can we stop with the excuses already lol.

We are not trying to win a championship.
The real question is what moves to make to get to the next level.
This team needs more than a backup center.
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Re: PG: Back to .500 (5-5) 

Post#233 » by djsunyc » Mon Nov 10, 2025 7:33 am

Los_29 wrote:The FO gets a solid back-up C, and people are still complaining. Some people think there are a 100 uber athletic, rim running, rim protecting big men out there floating around. lol.

i think the roster needs a 3rd center that has legit size. we've had bad luck with koloko and chomche. orlando robinson would be good enough. need it for nights yak is out or against massive teams for a handful of mins.
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Re: PG: Back to .500 (5-5) 

Post#234 » by ATLTimekeeper » Mon Nov 10, 2025 12:41 pm

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Los_29 wrote:The FO gets a solid back-up C, and people are still complaining. Some people think there are a 100 uber athletic, rim running, rim protecting big men out there floating around. lol.

i think the roster needs a 3rd center that has legit size. we've had bad luck with koloko and chomche. orlando robinson would be good enough. need it for nights yak is out or against massive teams for a handful of mins.


I agree and said as much in training camp (wanted us to keep Sarr). That being said, there's a 0% chance Darko is starting Robinson against Embiid here. He seems like he would prefer to stay small. Mamu couldn't get into this game even though we were getting destroyed in the paint.
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Post#235 » by ImaBeatDatAzz » Mon Nov 10, 2025 12:54 pm

The actual talented Sarr would be so good on this team. Instead the poor guy has to rot in Washington for a while
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Post#236 » by MoneyBall » Mon Nov 10, 2025 12:55 pm

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HiJiNX wrote:I absolutely agree with you. Ingram’s defence is so bad that he can’t start on a contender. He’s just too much of a liability there. And we can argue that we can coach him into better habits but ultimately he’s just slow.

Three weeks ago we were told with absolute conviction that BI had already dethroned Scottie as our team's best player, despite not having played a single regular season game for us. Now, we're talking about a consolidation trade for Ingram. Gotta love this fanbase (not talking about you, HiJiNX).

Haha yeah that was funny. Preseason was wild around here. I guess folks were just so afraid of Scottie not improving that his awful preseason led to some overreaction.

Also, fans of this sport tend to weigh scoring ability too heavily in how they assess players. It’s just how it is. Barnes isn’t some fantastic scorer and certainly doesn’t score in a pretty way — he mostly gets opportunity buckets or stuff that isn’t fancy. And I think many fans just don’t understand the impact of getting the ball up the court quickly, passing to the right guy, freezing the D with a shot or pass fake, rotating to a cutter and recovering, calling out screens before they arrive, telling teammates to clear a side to create space and then dumping it off to an advantage match-up, etc. Barnes just does a lot of the nuances really well and it adds up to impact even when he’s shooting awful. But his game isn’t pretty and he isn’t fluid so I think his overall impact gets overlooked.

I agree. Barnes is our best and most valuable player, full stop. His impact on the floor is more conducive to winning than Ingram. It's not even close, really.

If Ingram were our best player, we wouldn't be talking about wanting to trade him ASAP after just 10 games lol.
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Re: PG: Back to .500 (5-5) 

Post#237 » by Dennis 37 » Mon Nov 10, 2025 1:10 pm

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Los_29 wrote:The FO gets a solid back-up C, and people are still complaining. Some people think there are a 100 uber athletic, rim running, rim protecting big men out there floating around. lol.

i think the roster needs a 3rd center that has legit size. we've had bad luck with koloko and chomche. orlando robinson would be good enough. need it for nights yak is out or against massive teams for a handful of mins.


I agree and said as much in training camp (wanted us to keep Sarr). That being said, there's a 0% chance Darko is starting Robinson against Embiid here. He seems like he would prefer to stay small. Mamu couldn't get into this game even though we were getting destroyed in the paint.


We were being out-rebounded when Embid was on the bench.
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Re: PG: Back to .500 (5-5) 

Post#238 » by MiamiSPX » Mon Nov 10, 2025 2:14 pm

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Los_29 wrote:The FO gets a solid back-up C, and people are still complaining. Some people think there are a 100 uber athletic, rim running, rim protecting big men out there floating around. lol.

i think the roster needs a 3rd center that has legit size. we've had bad luck with koloko and chomche. orlando robinson would be good enough. need it for nights yak is out or against massive teams for a handful of mins.


Agreed. The elephant in the room is that Poeltl misses a lot of games, is already 30, and isn't exactly a conditioning freak. All signs point to shoring up the position.
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Post#239 » by HumbleRen » Mon Nov 10, 2025 2:24 pm

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MoneyBall wrote:Three weeks ago we were told with absolute conviction that BI had already dethroned Scottie as our team's best player, despite not having played a single regular season game for us. Now, we're talking about a consolidation trade for Ingram. Gotta love this fanbase (not talking about you, HiJiNX).

Haha yeah that was funny. Preseason was wild around here. I guess folks were just so afraid of Scottie not improving that his awful preseason led to some overreaction.

Also, fans of this sport tend to weigh scoring ability too heavily in how they assess players. It’s just how it is. Barnes isn’t some fantastic scorer and certainly doesn’t score in a pretty way — he mostly gets opportunity buckets or stuff that isn’t fancy. And I think many fans just don’t understand the impact of getting the ball up the court quickly, passing to the right guy, freezing the D with a shot or pass fake, rotating to a cutter and recovering, calling out screens before they arrive, telling teammates to clear a side to create space and then dumping it off to an advantage match-up, etc. Barnes just does a lot of the nuances really well and it adds up to impact even when he’s shooting awful. But his game isn’t pretty and he isn’t fluid so I think his overall impact gets overlooked.

I agree. Barnes is our best and most valuable player, full stop. His impact on the floor is more conducive to winning than Ingram. It's not even close, really.

If Ingram were our best player, we wouldn't be talking about wanting to trade him ASAP after just 10 games lol.


Ingram brings out Scottie’s impact though. Without Ingram, Scottie goes back to being the first on the hierarchy and craters our offence in the situation.
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Post#240 » by PushDaRock » Mon Nov 10, 2025 2:35 pm

Los_29 wrote:The FO gets a solid back-up C, and people are still complaining. Some people think there are a 100 uber athletic, rim running, rim protecting big men out there floating around. lol.


We have 2 competent bigs now and multiple small ball 5 options. That's much better than many teams who are forced to play these scrub bigs all the time.

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