Mavs weigh Nico's Future
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Predictable, even though I think he had some bad luck he couldn't predict (If not for the eye surgery AD had this start looks very different).
I know I will get scorched for saying this but I understand why he had big reservations about giving Luka the supermax... He just completely mishandled it (Probably should have gotten Luka to put in a trade request and have it play publicly rather than... this).
Unless Ja or Trae become available for cheap, I'd probably make any huge decision about the team in the spring... and ngl I really hope Nico does a tell all if and when he gets fired, gotta be juicy stuff in it.
I know I will get scorched for saying this but I understand why he had big reservations about giving Luka the supermax... He just completely mishandled it (Probably should have gotten Luka to put in a trade request and have it play publicly rather than... this).
Unless Ja or Trae become available for cheap, I'd probably make any huge decision about the team in the spring... and ngl I really hope Nico does a tell all if and when he gets fired, gotta be juicy stuff in it.
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FrodoFraggins wrote:Dan Z wrote:UcanUwill wrote:
Well of course they ok'ed the trade, ownership must approve every trade. But if you are respected GM and ownership comes to you with request to make this trade, you resign, plain and simple. I have zero empathy to Nico is some kind of fall guy, he knew what he was doing. Even if owners wanted to trade Luka, his job is to find a good trade. It is Luka Doncic who was 25 years old coming from finals appearance, and he traded him for older AD and some scraps, it is worst trade of all time for a reason, pure insanity return, charity for the Lakers.
I haven't done enough research on this, but it seems odd because I agree with you. Why not get the best deal possible? That is, if you absolutely have to trade Luka.
By best deal I mean let the league know he's available and look at all the offers. Then make a decision.
I get the impression that they didn't want him being on the market to leak. That seems to limit what offers they'd get. I just have a hard time believing that AD was the prize they wanted all along.
They still should've asked the Lakers for the most they can get (meaning however many firsts,plus what they got).
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Dan Z wrote:FrodoFraggins wrote:Dan Z wrote:
I haven't done enough research on this, but it seems odd because I agree with you. Why not get the best deal possible? That is, if you absolutely have to trade Luka.
By best deal I mean let the league know he's available and look at all the offers. Then make a decision.
I get the impression that they didn't want him being on the market to leak. That seems to limit what offers they'd get. I just have a hard time believing that AD was the prize they wanted all along.
They still should've asked the Lakers for the most they can get (meaning however many firsts,plus what they got).
Yeah, that's why I don't think Nico is just a patsy. I think he's incompetent. And even if he was a patsy he needs to be the first one fired just for optics.
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The delusions in this thread go wild. You guys have to keep in mind that Nico Harrison is the one who single handedly botched Nike's presentation to Steph Curry. The man called him Seth and showed him a presentation that was meant for Kevin Durant. He is a COLOSSAL moron.
He is simply just an idiot that somehow found himself in a place of power. He was baited by the discourse about Luka's weight/defense following the '24 finals (mostly perpetuated by Celtics fans) and fell in love with the notion that "defense wins championships".
Or you guys can just keep thinking that Adam Silver is some evil criminal mastermind that would stain the integrity of the entire league and jeopardize his career for... what reason exactly? To increase the valuation of the Lakers? lol a temporary viewership spike? It's not like millions more are tuning into the NBA this year because Luka is a Laker.
Nico Harrison is a clown. That's all this comes down to.
He is simply just an idiot that somehow found himself in a place of power. He was baited by the discourse about Luka's weight/defense following the '24 finals (mostly perpetuated by Celtics fans) and fell in love with the notion that "defense wins championships".
Or you guys can just keep thinking that Adam Silver is some evil criminal mastermind that would stain the integrity of the entire league and jeopardize his career for... what reason exactly? To increase the valuation of the Lakers? lol a temporary viewership spike? It's not like millions more are tuning into the NBA this year because Luka is a Laker.
Nico Harrison is a clown. That's all this comes down to.
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Doranku wrote:The delusions in this thread go wild. You guys have to keep in mind that Nico Harrison is the one who single handedly botched Nike's presentation to Steph Curry. The man called him Seth and showed him a presentation that was meant for Kevin Durant. He is a COLOSSAL moron.
He is simply just an idiot that somehow found himself in a place of power. He was baited by the discourse about Luka's weight/defense following the '24 finals (mostly perpetuated by Celtics fans) and fell in love with the notion that "defense wins championships".
Or you guys can just keep thinking that Adam Silver is some evil criminal mastermind that would stain the integrity of the entire league and jeopardize his career for... what reason exactly? To increase the valuation of the Lakers? lol a temporary viewership spike? It's not like millions more are tuning into the NBA this year because Luka is a Laker.
Nico Harrison is a clown. That's all this comes down to.
A clown wants to stay working in the circus. It makes no **** sense to trade a player when 100% of the fanbase will hate you for it.
Not only that, but it happens to be a trade for the most popular team in the league. If he truly believes in "defense wins championships", why didn't he trade Luka to the Rockets for Amen Thompson and other players/picks? Or I don't know, any other package rather than an old, extremely injury-prone player? Just happens to be the Lakers yet again, what are the **** odds?
The league gifted your team the superstar so it could stay relevant. Be happy about it, but don't treat other people as if we were (Please Use More Appropriate Word). Anyone with a brain cell knows what happened.
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About at the 4:05 mark Tim McMahon said something here that is a really bad indication for Nico's future with the team. Against the Wizards two days ago Anthony Davis was listed as questionable and wanted to play and Nico was going to allow it, he was overruled by Patrick Dumont. If Patrick Dumont is now watching his decisions that closely then Nico has already essentially been demoted
I guess after they weighed Anthony Davis it was time to weigh Nico's future
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He is legitimately the worst GM of all time. David Kahn was atrocious in every single way. Billy King mortgaged his team's future.
But neither traded one of the most talented players to ever play, in his prime, coming off of a finals appearance. For an injury prone AD who is set to turn 33 in about 5 months. AD literally can't stay on the court, so they may as well have just traded Luka for cash considerations.
He will be fired, it's just a matter of when.
But neither traded one of the most talented players to ever play, in his prime, coming off of a finals appearance. For an injury prone AD who is set to turn 33 in about 5 months. AD literally can't stay on the court, so they may as well have just traded Luka for cash considerations.
He will be fired, it's just a matter of when.
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It will hard to convince me ever that even Nico the GM would have been so stupid to think the trade was a good one for the Mavs. I'm quite sure he knew all along how crazy the trade is and what kind of media havoc it will create. That's why there probably is much more to the story than just Nico being a stupid GM. Another piece of the puzzle was discovered when the Mavs miraculously were handed the #1 pick Flagg. What is wild to me is how the league is not even trying to hide it anymore.
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MrBigShot wrote:He is legitimately the worst GM of all time. David Kahn was atrocious in every single way. Billy King mortgaged his team's future.
But neither traded one of the most talented players to ever play, in his prime, coming off of a finals appearance. For an injury prone AD who is set to turn 33 in about 5 months. AD literally can't stay on the court, so they may as well have just traded Luka for cash considerations.
He will be fired, it's just a matter of when.
His faith was sealed at the time the trade was made. No way the Mavs can keep him sitting in the arena and have tv-cameras on him long-term after that trade. His face is all the time reminding everyone of the shady events that went down.
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I wonder is this also because Flagg's ceiling may not be as high as ownership may have thought it could be. It's really really early but Flagg looks like he has a high basement and he might only have a top 25 player in the league ceiling and not a top 10 or top 5 player in the league ceiling. People forget but even in his rookie year Luka came out the gate blazing and by his 2nd season he was a top 5 player.
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Why? This trade was one of the worst in recent memory. Whst team is thinking, "Ooo, I need to Nico the team".doogie_hauser wrote:After the Mavs fire Nico, I feel like he will be blacklisted from ever working in any other organisation/franchise in the NBA, which i think is somewhat unfair.
Unless, Kidd is playing games behind the scenes.
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Amazed it hasn't happened already. Even if he lucked into Flagg, you cannot possibly trust him to rebuild this franchise. Hire someone new, trade AD, trade Kyrie, build around Flagg and get all the picks you can from this upcoming draft.
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jokeboy86 wrote:I wonder is this also because Flagg's ceiling may not be as high as ownership may have thought it could be. It's really really early but Flagg looks like he has a high basement and he might only have a top 25 player in the league ceiling and not a top 10 or top 5 player in the league ceiling. People forget but even in his rookie year Luka came out the gate blazing and by his 2nd season he was a top 5 player.
So far, it looks like Flagg is getting a very soft treatment compared to what some other, even lower profiled rookies have gotten for the start of their NBA careers. It's like we all want him to succeed and people don't want to criticize him, especially with the Kidd playing him at PG stuff. Kidd is trying to make a rookie who has never played PG become a PG right at the beginning of his NBA career. Even Lebron who had play a PG role before the NBA had struggle playing PG as a rookie, and they went out and got a PG to help him out that year.
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This is the guy who tweeted "fortune favors the bold" after they won the lottery. He is not only an idiot, but an arrogant knowitall as well
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Shock Defeat wrote:This is the guy who tweeted "fortune favors the bold" after they won the lottery. He is not only an idiot, but an arrogant knowitall as well
He kept his twitter account after the trade?
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The biggest tell if there was foul play will be if he finds a cushy consulting job after he is canned. 
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Doranku wrote:The delusions in this thread go wild. You guys have to keep in mind that Nico Harrison is the one who single handedly botched Nike's presentation to Steph Curry. The man called him Seth and showed him a presentation that was meant for Kevin Durant. He is a COLOSSAL moron.
He is simply just an idiot that somehow found himself in a place of power. He was baited by the discourse about Luka's weight/defense following the '24 finals (mostly perpetuated by Celtics fans) and fell in love with the notion that "defense wins championships".
Or you guys can just keep thinking that Adam Silver is some evil criminal mastermind that would stain the integrity of the entire league and jeopardize his career for... what reason exactly? To increase the valuation of the Lakers? lol a temporary viewership spike? It's not like millions more are tuning into the NBA this year because Luka is a Laker.
Nico Harrison is a clown. That's all this comes down to.
Sure. He did this all alone and nobody had any power to stop it, right?
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Calvin Klein wrote:Doranku wrote:The delusions in this thread go wild. You guys have to keep in mind that Nico Harrison is the one who single handedly botched Nike's presentation to Steph Curry. The man called him Seth and showed him a presentation that was meant for Kevin Durant. He is a COLOSSAL moron.
He is simply just an idiot that somehow found himself in a place of power. He was baited by the discourse about Luka's weight/defense following the '24 finals (mostly perpetuated by Celtics fans) and fell in love with the notion that "defense wins championships".
Or you guys can just keep thinking that Adam Silver is some evil criminal mastermind that would stain the integrity of the entire league and jeopardize his career for... what reason exactly? To increase the valuation of the Lakers? lol a temporary viewership spike? It's not like millions more are tuning into the NBA this year because Luka is a Laker.
Nico Harrison is a clown. That's all this comes down to.
Sure. He did this all alone and nobody had any power to stop it, right?Only lakers fan want to believe this
Who exactly do you think has the power to stop the GM? The owners are the only people and they know nothing about basketball, care only about money. Nico mentions the trade means no paying Luka the supermax and those greedy moguls probably held up their hand and said "say less".
Only Lakers haters and jilted Mavs fans wants to believe that the NBA commissioner somehow forced the Mavs hand to trade their superstar to the Lakers.
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OriAr wrote:Predictable, even though I think he had some bad luck he couldn't predict (If not for the eye surgery AD had this start looks very different).
I know I will get scorched for saying this but I understand why he had big reservations about giving Luka the supermax... He just completely mishandled it (Probably should have gotten Luka to put in a trade request and have it play publicly rather than... this).
Unless Ja or Trae become available for cheap, I'd probably make any huge decision about the team in the spring... and ngl I really hope Nico does a tell all if and when he gets fired, gotta be juicy stuff in it.
Luka could eat until he’s wider than he is tall and his Supermax would still be a better value than most non-rookie deals in the league.







