Wembanyama, I'm concerned (Part 2)

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Re: Wembanyama, I'm concerned (Part 2) 

Post#381 » by Optms » Tue Nov 11, 2025 4:01 am

Rust_Cohle wrote:What a freak of nature! 6/9 from downtown and a great stat line of 38 points, 12 rebounds, 5 blocks.


38 points
12 rebounds
5 assists
5 blocks
6 3's
10/10 FTs

You literally cannot find anyone in history with slash lines like this. Best player in the game doing GOAT level stuff.
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Post#382 » by doogie_hauser » Tue Nov 11, 2025 4:17 am

Optms wrote:
Rust_Cohle wrote:What a freak of nature! 6/9 from downtown and a great stat line of 38 points, 12 rebounds, 5 blocks.


38 points
12 rebounds
5 assists
5 blocks
6 3's
10/10 FTs

You literally cannot find anyone in history with slash lines like this. Best player in the game doing GOAT
level stuff.


Coming back from a serious blood clot condition that caused him to miss the 2nd half of last season too, makes it all the more remarkable too.

Wouldn't surprise me if teams raise home game ticket prices for when Wemby and The Spurs come to town, like everyone did for Prime MJ and The Bulls.

I swear San Antonio fans are the most blessed in the 21st Century ...
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Post#383 » by Ballings7 » Tue Nov 11, 2025 4:31 am

Optms wrote:
Rust_Cohle wrote:What a freak of nature! 6/9 from downtown and a great stat line of 38 points, 12 rebounds, 5 blocks.


38 points
12 rebounds
5 assists
5 blocks
6 3's
10/10 FTs

You literally cannot find anyone in history with slash lines like this. Best player in the game doing GOAT level stuff.




Wemby just gonna dance on everyone ..

Incredible game tonight against a scrappy Bulls team on the road.
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Post#384 » by Wonka » Tue Nov 11, 2025 4:35 am

That last shot to ice the game tonight was insane :lol:
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Post#385 » by Ballings7 » Tue Nov 11, 2025 1:22 pm

Wonka wrote:That last shot to ice the game tonight was insane :lol:


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Post#386 » by prime1time » Tue Nov 11, 2025 1:30 pm

38/12/5 with GOAT defense, 18 points in the fourth quarter and the game winner. The thing I love most about Wemby is that he wants to be the guy. He doesn't shy away from the moment. I've never seen a player make more impactful plays on a basketball court. The closest thing I've seen to it is playoff LBJ. When he could just put on his cape and turn into superman. Wemby is like that but he does it on a routine basis. Night in, night out. Magic's Lakers, Bird's Celtics. MJ Bulls. Kobe/Shaq Lakers. LBJ's Cavs/Heat. Duncan's Spurs. Curry's Warriors. Wemby's Spurs. Wemby is no longer coming. He's here.
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Post#387 » by prime1time » Tue Nov 11, 2025 1:33 pm

Spurs are 8 - 2 and have been battling injuries. In the playoffs when the guards can play physical and Wemby's minutes increase it's going to be very tough to beat this Spurs team. As the season goes on they'll get better and better. The Spurs are a very scary team.
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Post#388 » by Miami_Lux » Tue Nov 11, 2025 5:34 pm

prime1time wrote:38/12/5 with GOAT defense, 18 points in the fourth quarter and the game winner. The thing I love most about Wemby is that he wants to be the guy. He doesn't shy away from the moment. I've never seen a player make more impactful plays on a basketball court. The closest thing I've seen to it is playoff LBJ. When he could just put on his cape and turn into superman. Wemby is like that but he does it on a routine basis. Night in, night out. Magic's Lakers, Bird's Celtics. MJ Bulls. Kobe/Shaq Lakers. LBJ's Cavs/Heat. Duncan's Spurs. Curry's Warriors. Wemby's Spurs. Wemby is no longer coming. He's here.


No he doesn t. Prior to the Bulls game he had a 4-game stretch shooting 25-59 from the field (42%), 3-18 from 3 point (17%). Especially egregious was his game against the Suns where he was guarded by 6´4, 6´5 dudes no one has ever heard of, and showed a complete lack of aggression and looked extremely passive.

Now don t get me wrong he is allowed to have these types of games in his 3 rd season. But if you want to put him on the night in night out delivering superstar offensive performances that just doesn t add up to reality...yet
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Post#389 » by Bornstellar » Tue Nov 11, 2025 5:37 pm

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prime1time wrote:38/12/5 with GOAT defense, 18 points in the fourth quarter and the game winner. The thing I love most about Wemby is that he wants to be the guy. He doesn't shy away from the moment. I've never seen a player make more impactful plays on a basketball court. The closest thing I've seen to it is playoff LBJ. When he could just put on his cape and turn into superman. Wemby is like that but he does it on a routine basis. Night in, night out. Magic's Lakers, Bird's Celtics. MJ Bulls. Kobe/Shaq Lakers. LBJ's Cavs/Heat. Duncan's Spurs. Curry's Warriors. Wemby's Spurs. Wemby is no longer coming. He's here.


No he doesn t. Prior to the Bulls game he had a 4-game stretch shooting 25-59 from the field (42%), 3-18 from 3 point (17%). Especially egregious was his game against the Suns where he was guarded by 6´4, 6´5 dudes no one has ever heard of, and showed a complete lack of aggression and looked extremely passive.

Now don t get me wrong he is allowed to have these types of games in his 3 rd season. But if you want to put him on the night in night out delivering superstar offensive performances that just doesn t add up to reality...yet

Yes, he had a couple of poor games (relatively speaking) which looks especially bad because of that Suns game, but even when he is off on O he is still providing MVP level impact on the defensive end. That is something no one else in the MVP discussion can do. Shai is a good defender and Giannis was an elite defender a few years ago but no one even comes close to touching him on that end.
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Post#390 » by prime1time » Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:50 pm

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prime1time wrote:38/12/5 with GOAT defense, 18 points in the fourth quarter and the game winner. The thing I love most about Wemby is that he wants to be the guy. He doesn't shy away from the moment. I've never seen a player make more impactful plays on a basketball court. The closest thing I've seen to it is playoff LBJ. When he could just put on his cape and turn into superman. Wemby is like that but he does it on a routine basis. Night in, night out. Magic's Lakers, Bird's Celtics. MJ Bulls. Kobe/Shaq Lakers. LBJ's Cavs/Heat. Duncan's Spurs. Curry's Warriors. Wemby's Spurs. Wemby is no longer coming. He's here.


No he doesn t. Prior to the Bulls game he had a 4-game stretch shooting 25-59 from the field (42%), 3-18 from 3 point (17%). Especially egregious was his game against the Suns where he was guarded by 6´4, 6´5 dudes no one has ever heard of, and showed a complete lack of aggression and looked extremely passive.

Now don t get me wrong he is allowed to have these types of games in his 3 rd season. But if you want to put him on the night in night out delivering superstar offensive performances that just doesn t add up to reality...yet

I think the confusion lies in impact on the game. Wemby is a different kind of superstar. He has insane defensive impact. If he's putting up superstar offensive performances that's wonderful, but even in that bad stretch he's playing defense at a level so superior to anyone else in the league that it's laughable. That's what I meant. Basically, id you don't make threes against the Spurs and if you're big can't pull Wemby from the rim you have no chance. That's what I meant by impact on the game.
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Post#391 » by prime1time » Tue Nov 11, 2025 7:41 pm

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prime1time wrote:38/12/5 with GOAT defense, 18 points in the fourth quarter and the game winner. The thing I love most about Wemby is that he wants to be the guy. He doesn't shy away from the moment. I've never seen a player make more impactful plays on a basketball court. The closest thing I've seen to it is playoff LBJ. When he could just put on his cape and turn into superman. Wemby is like that but he does it on a routine basis. Night in, night out. Magic's Lakers, Bird's Celtics. MJ Bulls. Kobe/Shaq Lakers. LBJ's Cavs/Heat. Duncan's Spurs. Curry's Warriors. Wemby's Spurs. Wemby is no longer coming. He's here.


No he doesn t. Prior to the Bulls game he had a 4-game stretch shooting 25-59 from the field (42%), 3-18 from 3 point (17%). Especially egregious was his game against the Suns where he was guarded by 6´4, 6´5 dudes no one has ever heard of, and showed a complete lack of aggression and looked extremely passive.

Now don t get me wrong he is allowed to have these types of games in his 3 rd season. But if you want to put him on the night in night out delivering superstar offensive performances that just doesn t add up to reality...yet

I think the confusion lies in impact on the game. Wemby is a different kind of superstar. He has insane defensive impact. If he's putting up superstar offensive performances that's wonderful, but even in that bad stretch he's playing defense at a level so superior to anyone else in the league that it's laughable. That's what I meant. Basically, id you don't make threes against the Spurs and if you're big can't pull Wemby from the rim you have no chance. That's what I meant by impact on the game.

I don't think this can be understated. The Suns didn't just line up and stop Wemby one-on-one. They double teamed. Now these aren't the normal double teams that other star players see - i.e. traps coming off the PnR with a team that is already to built to defend it. The key to understanding the Spurs is that they are going to play a fundamentally different style of basketball than ball dominant player, 3-point shooters and a rim running big. When a double team slows down a player like Wemby, the entire team has to be on the same page. That's why the double team was so effective. Because the Spurs weren't prepared for it and everyone was doing their own thing. The more Wemby and the Spurs see unique defensives, the more they will adapt. Double teams in the long run aren't a viable solution because eventually the other Spurs players are going to make you pay.

But already at 21 you're seeing what teams will have to deal with going forward. GOAT level defense combined with a player that must be double teamed on offense. How many players in the NBA command double teams? Of those players how many commanded double teams at 21? As for my initial comments, I stand by them. Dude is a GOAT level defensive player and he's a must double team on offense, creating easy looks for his teammates. And this is every time he steps on the court. Regardless if his 3 is falling, regardless if he's aggressive or passive, regardless of his shooting percentages, regardless of his block numbers.

That's what I meant by impacting winning. No player in NBA history has a greater impact on winning. And he's only 21. When he's 22 his offense will be even better. Wemby and his teammates will have had an entire year facing these double teams. They'll spend the offseason preparing for it.
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Post#392 » by prime1time » Tue Nov 11, 2025 7:53 pm

One more thing. When Wemby has a game with an absurd stat line.We have to be clear about what we are seeing. This isn't Luka Doncic or Nikola Jokic putting up impressive stat lines while hiding on defense. It's literally one of the most dominant performances the NBA has ever seen. When Wemby plays like how he played last night it's arguably one of the greatest performances we've seen. He's anchoring the defense and then taking over the game offensively. 18 points in the 4th with clutch blocks and impacting things defensively. That was one of the greatest 4th quarter performances I've ever seen. To go a step further, it's disrespectful to Wemby to compare him to guys like Jokic and Luka who hide on defense.. Wemby takes pride in being a two way player. He's literally turning, sprinting and swatting shots going all out on the defensive end. And then turns around and carries the offense. Do people understand what we're watching? Like this is some insane stuff.

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