Around the NBA (and other Sports), 2025-26, p. II

Hal14 · Post #201 » by **Hal14** » Mon Nov 10, 2025 3:36 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:Sounds like some people should be Pacer fans. This is the Celtics RealGM forum.

This is the non-celtics thread.

celtxman · Post #202 » by **celtxman** » Mon Nov 10, 2025 4:01 pm

Hal14 wrote:Pacers are 1-9, at bottom of the east along with Washington.

And sitting all their guys..shameless tanking lol

Read on Twitter
?s=20

It's smart. Best player out with a torn achilles. So they know they're not competing fort a title. Mine as well rest their guys and go for a high draft pick in one of the best drafts of all time.

The NBA has always supported tanking. Whatever our own ethics is, the NBA doesn't care

redslastlaugh · Post #203 » by **redslastlaugh** » Mon Nov 10, 2025 9:05 pm

The Athletic the TOP 25 players of the last 25 years and three Celtics made the list:

11. Kevin Garnett
20. Paul Pierce
23. Jayson Tatum

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6779342/2025/11/10/nba-top-25-21st-century-ranking/

ryan in Maine · Post #204 » by **ryan in Maine** » Tue Nov 11, 2025 3:06 am

Ray should be on there too.

Fierce1 · Post #205 » by **Fierce1** » Tue Nov 11, 2025 3:39 am

All the top teams in the east are beatable.

The east is wide open, so keep an open mind.

Post #206 » by **Parliament10** » Tue Nov 11, 2025 3:58 am

ryan in Maine wrote:Ray should be on there too.

Yes. He's #3 All-Time in 3PT'ers. He broke Reggie Miller's record, while playing.
Ray Allen is also in the Top 10 on FT's by percentage, of All-Tiime.

Post #207 » by **Parliament10** » Tue Nov 11, 2025 4:02 am

celtxman wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Pacers are 1-9, at bottom of the east along with Washington.

And sitting all their guys..shameless tanking lol

Read on Twitter
?s=20

It's smart. Best player out with a torn achilles. So they know they're not competing fort a title. Mine as well rest their guys and go for a high draft pick in one of the best drafts of all time.

The NBA has always supported tanking. Whatever our own ethics is, the NBA doesn't care

Isn't Tanking usually done, when you don't have a bunch of experienced Players?
We've still got Guys who Won the Championship just 2 years ago. They are not built for Tanking.

Basketball Players don't have their whole lives to play in the NBA. It's a limited time. Players don't want to Tank.

keevsnick1 · Post #208 » by **keevsnick1** » Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:07 am

Parliament10 wrote:
celtxman wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Pacers are 1-9, at bottom of the east along with Washington.

And sitting all their guys..shameless tanking lol

Read on Twitter
?s=20

It's smart. Best player out with a torn achilles. So they know they're not competing fort a title. Mine as well rest their guys and go for a high draft pick in one of the best drafts of all time.

The NBA has always supported tanking. Whatever our own ethics is, the NBA doesn't care

Isn't Tanking usually done, when you don't have a bunch of experienced Players?
We've still got Guys who Won the Championship just 2 years ago. They are not built for Tanking.

Basketball Players don't have their whole lives to play in the NBA. It's a limited time. Players don't want to Tank.

I don't think the Pacers are tanking, so much as they've just been decimated by injuries. Sure, Siakam is getting a rest night, but he's also played every other game this season at 35+ minutes/game and this was the second night of a B2B in the middle of a west coast road trip for the pacers.

Hal14 · Post #209 » by **Hal14** » Tue Nov 11, 2025 4:31 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
celtxman wrote:
Hal14 wrote:Pacers are 1-9, at bottom of the east along with Washington.

And sitting all their guys..shameless tanking lol

Read on Twitter
?s=20

It's smart. Best player out with a torn achilles. So they know they're not competing fort a title. Mine as well rest their guys and go for a high draft pick in one of the best drafts of all time.

The NBA has always supported tanking. Whatever our own ethics is, the NBA doesn't care

Isn't Tanking usually done, when you don't have a bunch of experienced Players?
We've still got Guys who Won the Championship just 2 years ago. They are not built for Tanking.

Basketball Players don't have their whole lives to play in the NBA. It's a limited time. Players don't want to Tank.

Pacers were just in the NBA finals. But their best player has a torn achilles. So they have no shot at a title..they're tanking.

Mavericks were in the 2024 nba finals..but then Kyrie tore ACL, so they tanked and got lottery luck..got 1st pick to draft Flagg.

Warriors won 3 titles. But then Steph and Klay got hurt, they tanked and won another title in 2022.

Spurs were a playoff team..but david robinson got hurt, they tanked, got lottery luck, drafted Duncan..who won them 5 titles.

And on and on and on.

Players might not want to tank but it's often in the best interest of the franchise in the long run.

Post #210 » by **djFan71** » Tue Nov 11, 2025 4:49 pm

Man, I just wish Brad could have gotten a trade with Nico in. Oh well, too late.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/46928742/sources-mavericks-expected-fire-general-manager-nico-harrison

The Corey's · Post #211 » by **The Corey's** » Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:04 pm

There goes any chance for a Brown for Cooper trade.

Celts17Pride · Post #212 » by **Celts17Pride** » Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:14 pm

The Corey's wrote:There goes any chance for a Brown for Cooper trade.

Good

ThePigeon · Post #213 » by **ThePigeon** » Tue Nov 11, 2025 8:03 pm

Copper will come to Boston as a free agent after he gets some experience

ryan in Maine · Post #214 » by **ryan in Maine** » Tue Nov 11, 2025 8:06 pm

ThePigeon wrote:Copper will come to Boston as a free agent after he gets some experience

I'm telling you right now if we draft Ace then Cooper will sign with the Celtics.

ThePigeon · Post #215 » by **ThePigeon** » Tue Nov 11, 2025 8:33 pm

ryan in Maine wrote:
ThePigeon wrote:Copper will come to Boston as a free agent after he gets some experience

I'm telling you right now if we draft Ace then Cooper will sign with the Celtics.

Cooper will sign no matter what
He will be JT's successor when the time comes

itrsteve · Post #216 » by **itrsteve** » Tue Nov 11, 2025 9:04 pm

Can you imagine what his rookie max extension will be? I’m not sure if we have a shot.

But here’s to dreaming

Fierce1 · Post #217 » by **Fierce1** » Tue Nov 11, 2025 9:26 pm

Flagg is not a good shooter right now.

He's an underwhelming #1 pick so far.

Flagg was supposed to be a generational talent.

#1 picks like Zion and Banchero averaged 20 ppg during their rookie season.

Tatumfor2 · Post #218 » by **Tatumfor2** » Tue Nov 11, 2025 11:02 pm

Fierce1 wrote:Flagg is not a good shooter right now.

He's an underwhelming #1 pick so far.

Flagg was supposed to be a generational talent.

#1 picks like Zion and Banchero averaged 20 ppg during their rookie season.

Zion played 5 games his rookie season. 22 games in his second. I wouldn't be surprised if Flagg out scores his first two seasons by the all-star break. We'll see how it goes, but right now I doubt the Mavs would trade Flagg for Zion straight up.

All that aside, Flagg shouldn't be your main ball handler in the NBA. Tatum couldn't have done that as a rookie either.

Fierce1 · Post #219 » by **Fierce1** » Yesterday 12:01 am

Tatumfor2 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:Flagg is not a good shooter right now.

He's an underwhelming #1 pick so far.

Flagg was supposed to be a generational talent.

#1 picks like Zion and Banchero averaged 20 ppg during their rookie season.

Zion played 5 games his rookie season. 22 games in his second. I wouldn't be surprised if Flagg out scores his first two seasons by the all-star break. We'll see how it goes, but right now I doubt the Mavs would trade Flagg for Zion straight up.

All that aside, Flagg shouldn't be your main ball handler in the NBA. Tatum couldn't have done that as a rookie either.

Yeah, I agree.

Flagg playing PG is putting him under a lot of pressure.

brackdan70 · Post #220 » by **brackdan70** » Yesterday 12:02 am

Fierce1 wrote:Flagg is not a good shooter right now.

He's an underwhelming #1 pick so far.

Flagg was supposed to be a generational talent.

#1 picks like Zion and Banchero averaged 20 ppg during their rookie season.

He is just above his high floor currently. Though he is very very young . Even younger than Tatum.