Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank

[dirkdiggler4177]

They don't have their pick next year. So if they trade AD and Kyrie, they need to be good next season.

Not really. They need to just plan around Flagg's development path so they can surround him with a good team once he's ready to be an all star level player.

They don't have their pick next year. So if they trade AD and Kyrie, they need to be good next season.

If they trade AD and Kyrie, they will get frp OR get young pieces.

If they tank now and trade AD and Kyrie they will have a top 5 pick in this years stacked draft, Flagg, Lively AND either frp's from the trade or other young talents from the trade. Thats a good basis to become good in the next 5 years

They don't have their pick next year. So if they trade AD and Kyrie, they need to be good next season.

It's actually top 2 protected. But they would need to be given assurance by Adam Silver that it would land in the top 2.

Even so, it may just be a sunk cost that greatly benefits the Hornets and you just rebuild with the picks you get in the fire sale and make sure the 2026 pick is high

They don't have their pick next year. So if they trade AD and Kyrie, they need to be good next season.

Saw that. The move should be to rehabilitate Davis's value with a good stretch this season... Easy to do IMO within a few weeks.

Tank it out this year. Trade Gafford, trade PJ MAYBE TRADE DLO and Klay if possible. I will give Carrie all the time he would need.... Maybe bring him back in March to see if he can play well and if he can't be traded for exactly what they want.... Play it out for '27 with Kyrie and young talent...and see if they can make the playoffs. Trade him at some point

That Nico guy already have them a nice young core, so even if they don't get a pick in 27.... You still get to see you Cooper develop with Lively and Christie...2026 pick.

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The Mavs own their pick for 2026 and then 2031 and 2032. I'm not sure what to do, but to make the other teams better by trading AD and Irving to them, and hope to get high picks out of that does not sound very promising. There is a reason why first-round picks come so cheap today: they are usually very low because you just handed them a star player.

I'm not sure what to do in this situation. I also don't think AD and Irving got a high value today.

edit. Maybe hold AD and Irving back this season for a recovery season, get a high pick, and then give everything the next 2-3 seasons.

[zimpy27]

No.

Mavs fans need to embrace the team they have, give them confidence.

[maverick_41]

Free Klay.
Show some mercy.

Free Klay? Let's start by freeing his jumper first.

He will hit it if in LA.

[Raps in 4]

In theory, yes. But they also need a competent FO and a serious owner who is committed to winning in order for the tank to succeed.

[dirkdiggler4177]

No.

Mavs fans need to embrace the team they have, give them confidence.

I agree. I don't think the team has gotten a real chance. The talent is great when you have Russell, Thompson, Naji, and Gafford coming off the bench.

The problem has been the offense Kidd has been running

[dirkdiggler4177]

In theory, yes. But they also need a competent FO and a serious owner who is committed to winning in order for the tank to succeed.

They can only tank this year. They don't own their pick till 2031.

[ReddoverKobe]

looking at the NBA trade machine its going to be tough. 54 mil for an oft injured big man.

[Raps in 4]

looking at the NBA trade machine its going to be tough. 54 mil for an oft injured big man.

A 32 year-old oft-injured big man.

[SlimShady83]

How would Dallas feel about getting in on the Kings fire sale and get

1 or both of Lavine/Sabonis?

[M2J]

They don't have their pick next year. So if they trade AD and Kyrie, they need to be good next season.

Not really. They need to just plan around Flagg's development path so they can surround him with a good team once he's ready to be an all star level player.

They don't have their pick next year. So if they trade AD and Kyrie, they need to be good next season.

If they trade AD and Kyrie, they will get frp OR get young pieces.

If they tank now and trade AD and Kyrie they will have a top 5 pick in this years stacked draft, Flagg, Lively AND either frp's from the trade or other young talents from the trade. Thats a good basis to become good in the next 5 years

They don't have their pick next year. So if they trade AD and Kyrie, they need to be good next season.

It's actually top 2 protected. But they would need to be given assurance by Adam Silver that it would land in the top 2.

Even so, it may just be a sunk cost that greatly benefits the Hornets and you just rebuild with the picks you get in the fire sale and make sure the 2026 pick is high

They don't have their pick next year. So if they trade AD and Kyrie, they need to be good next season.

Saw that. The move should be to rehabilitate Davis's value with a good stretch this season... Easy to do IMO within a few weeks.

Tank it out this year. Trade Gafford, trade PJ MAYBE TRADE DLO and Klay if possible. I will give Carrie all the time he would need.... Maybe bring him back in March to see if he can play well and if he can't be traded for exactly what they want.... Play it out for '27 with Kyrie and young talent...and see if they can make the playoffs. Trade him at some point

That Nico guy already have them a nice young core, so even if they don't get a pick in 27.... You still get to see you Cooper develop with Lively and Christie...2026 pick.

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The Mavs own their pick for 2026 and then 2031 and 2032. I'm not sure what to do, but to make the other teams better by trading AD and Irving to them, and hope to get high picks out of that does not sound very promising. There is a reason why first-round picks come so cheap today: they are usually very low because you just handed them a star player.

I'm not sure what to do in this situation. I also don't think AD and Irving got a high value today.

edit. Maybe hold AD and Irving back this season for a recovery season, get a high pick, and then give everything the next 2-3 seasons.

https://fanspo.com/nba/teams/Mavericks/7/draft-picks

The only pick it says they don't have is 27... Which isn't that bad.

Today no you couldn't get much for Kyrie and Davis. In a month you could probably get a lot for Davis if he has a good stretch. Kyrie ever has a good stretch you can trade him in the off-season maybe or next season. I still think the team is okay. Because of Cooper and Lively....

Toronto for instance has a lot of talent. Some guard talent, And I bet they would trade for Davis today

[gmoney411]

FVV, fillers, and Dallas 29 pick for Kyrie makes sense for both teams. The Rockets get a much needed PG that is a year ahead on ACL recovery and the Mavs get control of one of their firsts back. Kyrie and KD will both have player options for the 27-28 season.

[MrGoat]

Not really. They need to just plan around Flagg's development path so they can surround him with a good team once he's ready to be an all star level player.

If they trade AD and Kyrie, they will get frp OR get young pieces.

If they tank now and trade AD and Kyrie they will have a top 5 pick in this years stacked draft, Flagg, Lively AND either frp's from the trade or other young talents from the trade. Thats a good basis to become good in the next 5 years

It's actually top 2 protected. But they would need to be given assurance by Adam Silver that it would land in the top 2.

Even so, it may just be a sunk cost that greatly benefits the Hornets and you just rebuild with the picks you get in the fire sale and make sure the 2026 pick is high

Saw that. The move should be to rehabilitate Davis's value with a good stretch this season... Easy to do IMO within a few weeks.

Tank it out this year. Trade Gafford, trade PJ MAYBE TRADE DLO and Klay if possible. I will give Carrie all the time he would need.... Maybe bring him back in March to see if he can play well and if he can't be traded for exactly what they want.... Play it out for '27 with Kyrie and young talent...and see if they can make the playoffs. Trade him at some point

That Nico guy already have them a nice young core, so even if they don't get a pick in 27.... You still get to see you Cooper develop with Lively and Christie...2026 pick.

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The Mavs own their pick for 2026 and then 2031 and 2032. I'm not sure what to do, but to make the other teams better by trading AD and Irving to them, and hope to get high picks out of that does not sound very promising. There is a reason why first-round picks come so cheap today: they are usually very low because you just handed them a star player.

I'm not sure what to do in this situation. I also don't think AD and Irving got a high value today.

edit. Maybe hold AD and Irving back this season for a recovery season, get a high pick, and then give everything the next 2-3 seasons.

https://fanspo.com/nba/teams/Mavericks/7/draft-picks

The only pick it says they don't have is 27... Which isn't that bad.

Today no you couldn't get much for Kyrie and Davis. In a month you could probably get a lot for Davis if he has a good stretch. Kyrie ever has a good stretch you can trade him in the off-season maybe or next season. I still think the team is okay. Because of Cooper and Lively....

Toronto for instance has a lot of talent. Some guard talent, And I bet they would trade for Davis today

The others are swaps and it's the Lakers pick they have for 2029. The swaps are with OKC and San Antonio, so very likely going to be very unfavorable swaps too

28 swap with OKC helped them get Gafford. The 2029 pick is the LA pick they got for Luka, their own 2029 pick is now owed to Houston from the Kyrie trade. 2030 is swapped to the Spurs for dumping Reggie Bullock on them. They really do need to be looking to upgrade their draft capital position

[Blame Rasho]

Lively for Rui checks out. Lakers will toss in some 2nds as well so the Mavs can stockpile picks. Win win for both sides if this is the route Mavs are choosing to go. Time to embrace the tank.

Yes because 2nd rounders are the way to rebuild.

[CobraCommander]

looking at the NBA trade machine its going to be tough. 54 mil for an oft injured big man.

A 32 year-old oft-injured big man.

The wizards are ramping up a package to pick up AD and Ja and potentially Zion so that they can lose a ton of games while ja plays without Zion and AD!

[Blame Rasho]

No.

Mavs fans need to embrace the team they have, give them confidence.

Oh yes… that is what they need confidence.

[canada_dry]

Imo this whole thing has been an indictment on AD as well.

Mavs fans and organization are realizing why AD has never truly lead a team anywhere as The Guy in his whole career.

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[Mephariel]

Maverick fans, stop listening to morons telling you to tank. Stay the course. You got to think about Sacramento Kings fans. If you tank, we may have lesser chance of landing a top pick.

You already got one championship, and you got Jerry Jones. What more do you want?

You can't be that selfish. Think about us Kings fans.

[Frank Dux]

So, it would show a bad taste if I offer Reaves to get AD back?

On a more serious note, I continue to think AD to Spurs make a LOT of sense, they are ready to compete now, have some young pieces and a ton of picks.

I don’t even think it’s a good idea to trade Reaves for an injury prone guy on the wrong side of 30.

I think AD’s best years are behind him. The Lakers should be focusing on younger players to put around Luka.

[JHFVF07]

So, it would show a bad taste if I offer Reaves to get AD back?

On a more serious note, I continue to think AD to Spurs make a LOT of sense, they are ready to compete now, have some young pieces and a ton of picks.

I don’t even think it’s a good idea to trade Reaves for an injury prone guy on the wrong side of 30.

I think AD’s best years are behind him. The Lakers should be focusing on younger players to put around Luka.

Damm! Cold!

[Archx]

I'm not sure what to do, but to make the other teams better by trading AD and Irving to them, and hope to get high picks out of that does not sound very promising. There is a reason why first-round picks come so cheap today: they are usually very low because you just handed them a star player.

I'm not sure what to do in this situation. I also don't think AD and Irving got a high value today.

edit. Maybe hold AD and Irving back this season for a recovery season, get a high pick, and then give everything the next 2-3 seasons.

Literally doesn't matter where they'll trade AD and Kyrie to, When Coop prime comes up, it will be him vs Wemby basically.

If Mavs decide to blow it up, then they'll have 6-7 year window to get a team together around Coop that will be able to compete. They have to sell high on their star veterans while they still have some value left and get back as much draft capital as they can. New GM will have to be smart how to resolve current situation that they are in. But the smartest thing to do would be to build around Coop and let him develop for few years.