Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition

[BlacJacMac]

Unless there are no other interested teams, I don't see how such a framework wins out.

Why would Memphis want Reid when it has a better PF in JJJ?

JJJ would not be a bad player to put next to Reid.

And if you believe BBREF's Line-up data. JJJ still plays much more Center than PF. He's only played 95 of his 315 minutes with another Center.

Big concern with that pairing is that neither can rebound. Defensively and offensively the fit is great, but that rebounding situation would be BRUTAL.

That's a good point. I forgot how terrible JJJ is on the glass.

[frankenwolf]

I would feel significantly more comfortable with this is Kyle Anderson ends up being bought out, but obviously that would not be known until after the Trade Deadline, which makes it tough.

Well, this is where exactly IMO lies problem with Ja: once you trade for him, you need mtiple guys like Kyle Anderson Cooper o cover his weaknesses while playing for bargain contracts. I also don't believe that he is willing to give 100% of effort which is very concerning since he is not big nor physical enough. At this point of roster development MIN need a completely different type of PG: big, unselfish, physical and consistent. And more importantly low profile, I would not risk current foundation to make Ja happy.

Agreed. Ideally I want a guy who can be a good POA defender, can bring the ball up-court against pressure and hit the 3 at a high enough clip to demand some defensive attention.

I'd rather have a young PatBev type than a Ja, Coby or Trae.

I want someone with Chris Paul's handles and Jaylen Clark's defense. I will say that Jaylen looked good last night in those corner shots.

[cmoss84]

I would trade Julius or Naz+ for Ja. Am I understanding this correctly...most of you value Randle higher than Naz? I think Naz is worth more. At least to us. Would be an interesting poll question.

[BlacJacMac]

I would trade Julius or Naz+ for Ja. Am I understanding this correctly...most of you value Randle higher than Naz? I think Naz is worth more. At least to us. Would be an interesting poll question.

I value Randle over Naz.

I think at least right now, Randle is outplaying his contract. I think Naz is overpaid.

I would not trade Randle for Ja.

I would consider Naz in Ja deal. Although I don't want Ja.

[younggunsmn]

If we were to trade for him what would we offer. Ju and Jaden are playing far too well for that and Naz wouldn't get it done.

This depends on how ugly things get in Memphis, but I think that “late December” line from Jon is a HUGE giveaway that my Naz framework is what Minnesota is sniffing around with (given that his trade eligibility is January 15th.

Naz Reid, Conley/Donte, Rob Dillingham, and Terrence Shannon Jr. (along with pick swaps)

That is a mediocre package that would allow Memphis to reset with some youth. I’m still hesitant on trading for Ja Morant, but the age and contract timeline makes sense.

Ja Morant is fool's gold.
He will have one game where he looks like a superstar and 10 where he is a drag on his team winning.
He's always hurt.
And he has been very bad and inefficient this year.
Most I would even consider is Naz/Conley/Rob. No TJ no pick swaps.

A couple more bad/injured years and he could be dipping his toe into DeAngelo Russell territory.
If you give up a couple of iffy contracts for a 2 year experiment, it's not an awful trade.
But I wouldn't give up anything of long term value for him right now.

But you will have no bench with all those big salaries and if his attitude goes south it will implode the entire chemistry of the team.

[Neeva]

Morant’s shooting looks broken/horrific. His game will fall off a cliff the closer he gets to 30 as well, won’t surprise me at all if he is completely out of the league by 31-32 like John Wall.

[winforlose]

I would trade Julius or Naz+ for Ja. Am I understanding this correctly...most of you value Randle higher than Naz? I think Naz is worth more. At least to us. Would be an interesting poll question.

I value Randle over Naz.

I think at least right now, Randle is outplaying his contract. I think Naz is overpaid.

I would not trade Randle for Ja.

I would consider Naz in Ja deal. Although I don't want Ja.

I agree, but I also wonder how the murder of Naz’s sister is messing with him and therefore his game. I am much more inclined to believe his slow start is grief related then the classic “I got the bag now I can slack off.”

[Neeva]

Naz and Rob for Derozen, Westbrook and 2026 kings frp
Wolves add two expiring vets for the bench plus lotto balls for a chance at DarrynPeterson or Cameron Boozer.
Kings take the sure thing (Naz) because they have ptsd from drafting high in lotto.

DDV and TJ for Black and Da Silva.

pick up slowmo when he gets bought out?

Conley/Westbrook/Black
Ant/Clark
Mcdaniels/Derozen
Randle/Da Silva
Gobert/Slowmo/Beringer

1. Naz is in Ant’s prime window, you don’t dump him for expirings, especially when they are older and losing the salary means you cannot preserve the salary slot. We would have no means of back filling them next year.

2. DDV and TJ is too much for Black and Da Silva. TJ has 3 more years on the rookie scale, and DDV is a great value contract. Black if he develops will need too much money and Da Silva is not worth losing the year on TSJ.

3. DDR has never come off the bench. This would be a major headache in the locker room.

I really want the wolves to have a lotto pick in the 2026 draft.
Ant and Darryn will be perfect together and Kings luck and their dumb GM (he seems like the kind that will think he will be giving up a pick in the 7-12 range for Naz but instead it will turn out to be top 2 pick)

DDR can start , Conley can come off the bench, I am sure he will be fine with that. DDR and Russ play might get rejuvenated to be playing on a team making a title run?


IMO Da Silva will be a very good bench big but I am perfectly fine with Keeping DDV and TJ instead. Black seems kind of meh.

[winforlose]

Naz and Rob for Derozen, Westbrook and 2026 kings frp
Wolves add two expiring vets for the bench plus lotto balls for a chance at DarrynPeterson or Cameron Boozer.
Kings take the sure thing (Naz) because they have ptsd from drafting high in lotto.

DDV and TJ for Black and Da Silva.

pick up slowmo when he gets bought out?

Conley/Westbrook/Black
Ant/Clark
Mcdaniels/Derozen
Randle/Da Silva
Gobert/Slowmo/Beringer

1. Naz is in Ant’s prime window, you don’t dump him for expirings, especially when they are older and losing the salary means you cannot preserve the salary slot. We would have no means of back filling them next year.

2. DDV and TJ is too much for Black and Da Silva. TJ has 3 more years on the rookie scale, and DDV is a great value contract. Black if he develops will need too much money and Da Silva is not worth losing the year on TSJ.

3. DDR has never come off the bench. This would be a major headache in the locker room.

I really want the wolves to have a lotto pick in the 2026 draft.
Ant and Darryn will be perfect together and Kings luck and their dumb GM (he seems like the kind that will think he will be giving up a pick in the 7-12 range for Naz but instead it will turn out to be top 2 pick)

DDR can start , Conley can come off the bench, I am sure he will be fine with that. DDR and Russ play might get rejuvenated to be playing on a team making a title run?


IMO Da Silva will be a very good bench big but I am perfectly fine with Keeping DDV and TJ insteae. Black seems kind of meh.

Knowing Finch whoever we draft won’t get a role in year 1 and if we have a lotto pick this year we gave up a lot to get him for 2 years later.

[KGdaBom]

I would trade Julius or Naz+ for Ja. Am I understanding this correctly...most of you value Randle higher than Naz? I think Naz is worth more. At least to us. Would be an interesting poll question.

Create the poll. I'll be voting for Ju and I think most of us will.

[BlacJacMac]

I would trade Julius or Naz+ for Ja. Am I understanding this correctly...most of you value Randle higher than Naz? I think Naz is worth more. At least to us. Would be an interesting poll question.

I value Randle over Naz.

I think at least right now, Randle is outplaying his contract. I think Naz is overpaid.

I would not trade Randle for Ja.

I would consider Naz in Ja deal. Although I don't want Ja.

I agree, but I also wonder how the murder of Naz’s sister is messing with him and therefore his game. I am much more inclined to believe his slow start is grief related then the classic “I got the bag now I can slack off.”

I think there is a very good chance his grief has affected his shooting - and maybe some of his decision making.

But the other flaws in his game have always been there. They're flaws you can overlook on his previous contracts, but not his current one.

[Guest84]

One thing I saw mentioned was that instead of a traditional pg, wolves should maybe another big playmaking wing. They mentioned RJ Barrett…thoughts??

[Danimals]

Can we turn Conley and Dilly into a better fitting guard to come off the bench?
Sexton, Monk, Mann, NAW, Schroeder, White, Mitchell, Ball…?
Then sign another playable defensive big.

[Klomp]

Keon Ellis. That's a name any contending team should be going after.

What's your offer?

[Neeva]

Keon Ellis. That's a name any contending team should be going after.

What's your offer?

He is expiring and Sac is playing him a lot less , so Miller, maybe a second also?

[Klomp]

Keon Ellis. That's a name any contending team should be going after.

What's your offer?

He is expiring and Sac is playing him a lot less , so Miller, maybe a second also?

Sacramento is a horribly run franchise.

His career-LOW 3-point percentage is .417 and he gives you another all-league level defender. Also, he is younger than TJ Shannon.

The expiring contract definitely presents some risk though, that is what has to be weighed.

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Everyone seems overpaid though

[BlacJacMac]

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Everyone seems overpaid though

I have zero interest in any of the 3.

DeRozan has the most reasonable contract and would give us another ballhandler. But I could see him balking at the reduced role he'd have here. And he doesn't help our defense.

And I think Zach and Sabonis are entertaining to watch, but probably two of the most "empty stat" guys in the entire league.

[Klomp]

The key targets from Sacramento are the role players in my opinion. Keon Ellis will be a major boon for someone. I think Schroder could be a key target at the deadline for teams. Devin Carter is another young PG prospect who could come at a discount rate. Drew Eubanks could also be a throw-in who turns into a good pick-up for someone.

I doubt he will be available, but my favorite target of all is Nique Clifford.

[Neeva]

I want the Kings 2026 pick most of all and the Wolves 2031 pick back lol