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zero rings wrote:Syd-TK3 wrote:Idk how anyone still believes that trade wasnt orchestrated bts for league purposes. It goes way beyond Nico
So what's the conspiracy on the Pels gifting the Hawks their 2026 frp?
That trade is arguably even more baffling than this one, and yet the tin foil hat people don't have any theories. They just accept that Joe Dumars is an idiot.
Why can't Nico Harrison be an idiot?
Syd-TK3 wrote:zero rings wrote:Syd-TK3 wrote:Idk how anyone still believes that trade wasnt orchestrated bts for league purposes. It goes way beyond Nico
So what's the conspiracy on the Pels gifting the Hawks their 2026 frp?
That trade is arguably even more baffling than this one, and yet the tin foil hat people don't have any theories. They just accept that Joe Dumars is an idiot.
Why can't Nico Harrison be an idiot?
Cause nobody cares about either of those teams
sp6r=underrated wrote:zero rings wrote:sp6r=underrated wrote:I don't think this theory is correct, https://www.reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/1ig55ex/is_nico_harrison_racist/, but it is far more plausible to me than the theory the NBA forced or bribed the Mavericks into making a terrible trade that would alienate a fanbase.
We've never seen any evidence that a major sports league has done this in the US. I'm very skeptical the NBA could bribe Dallas for a varitey of reasons. The money involved would have to be enormous and I'm not sure how they could have hid the paper trail.
By contrast I am old enough to remember when NFL teams actively discriminated against black quarterbacks. Do I think Nico had an unconscious bias against Luka for being a foreigner or white relative to Anthony Davis the traditional Nike superstar (Black American)? No but that is way more plausible to me than the NBA forcing trades to LA.
It is more plausible because it did happen in the past with the races reversed in the NFL.
EDIT: I actually do think this was in play based on an article specialpuppy1 pointed out to me on twitter.
https://alldlls.com/nico-harrison-mavericks-fired-how-we-got-here/
If this is correct he does have a bias, probably unconscious, against either international players or white players. Because there is no way anyone working in basketball could think this otherwise.
This is probably the most plausible theory out there.
If Nico just doesn't think white players are all that, you can see how he could talk himself into this trade.
Jrue over Jokic is certifiably insane, and I like Jrue lol
Out of all the conspiracy theories it is the most plausible. I'm an old and I remember the NFL actively discriminating against black QBs. It wasn't just Kaep. A lot of GM really didn't believe in black QBs. I said before I didn't believe it but him thinking Jrue = Jokic makes it much more plausible.
That is theory that basically only makes sense if you have a bias, conscious or unconscious. And like you I am a big Jrue fan.
zero rings wrote:Syd-TK3 wrote:zero rings wrote:
So what's the conspiracy on the Pels gifting the Hawks their 2026 frp?
That trade is arguably even more baffling than this one, and yet the tin foil hat people don't have any theories. They just accept that Joe Dumars is an idiot.
Why can't Nico Harrison be an idiot?
Cause nobody cares about either of those teams
So incompetent people can only run small market teams?
jokeboy86 wrote:sp6r=underrated wrote:zero rings wrote:
This is probably the most plausible theory out there.
If Nico just doesn't think white players are all that, you can see how he could talk himself into this trade.
Jrue over Jokic is certifiably insane, and I like Jrue lol
Out of all the conspiracy theories it is the most plausible. I'm an old and I remember the NFL actively discriminating against black QBs. It wasn't just Kaep. A lot of GM really didn't believe in black QBs. I said before I didn't believe it but him thinking Jrue = Jokic makes it much more plausible.
That is theory that basically only makes sense if you have a bias, conscious or unconscious. And like you I am a big Jrue fan.
I always believed this because you have plenty of ex-NBA players and even some AA in sports media who have outright dismissed the great foreign players of this era especially if they're white but sometimes not even. A lot of them still go by that stereotype that all great white foreign players are only good on one side of the ball and are hyped up because the "media wants to dismiss or hate the great black players". And you have to remember that Nico only dealt with great American players at Nike. I remember on an episode of Open Court, Chris Webber damn near threw a temper tantrum when Kenny suggested that Dirk was better than him. They used to trash Giannis during his ascendance and only moved off him once Jokic started entering his prime. They routinely dismiss Gobert's talent constantly. The only reason they spare Embiid and Wemby is because they like the way their game looks and it's hilarious that they all love and praise Luka because he plays for the Lakers now.
TheGeneral99 wrote:BmanInBigD wrote:I don't buy the conspiracy junk. The NBA is not covert enough, much less smart enough, to pull this off without someone leaking it. It's not like politics, where you might get killed for leaking something. Luka was not one of Nico's dudes, so to speak, and he didn't want him getting all the attention. But Cuban deserves as much crap as anyone for this deal for being so naive and arrogant to think that, with no written agreement, he would remain as Governor and be in all the talks with the roster and everything else. Just a disgrace to sell the team to a bunch of Vegas casino douchebags that have no knowledge of or interest in a basketball team.
I agree, it's just arrogance from guys who think they are smarter than what they are.
You have Dumont who married into the billionaire Adelson family and is essentially a random fan with no serious knowledge of the game. When he said guys like Shaq had a great work-ethic I was astonished that any serious basketball executive could say something like that.
Nico was a Nike executive for over a decade and inherited the Mavericks roster in 2021 without any GM experience, when Luka was already a top 5 player in the league. Many of his trades were suspect and he was bailed out by having Luka running the team. The Kyrie trade in my opinion was bad, but he was lucky that Kyrie was healthy in 2024 and respected Luka. He failed to extend Brunson, he traded Grimes for scraps, he fired Casey Smith, and traded a bunch of 1st round picks for meh role players. The one good move was drafting Derek Lively, but he's not near as effective without Luka.
The real question is why did Cuban even hire Nico in the 1st place.
Dan Z wrote:From Nico Harrison's Wikipedia page:During his work at Nike, he botched a 2013 presentation to Stephen Curry, where according to Harrison he may have called him Seth, and the presentation used was made for Kevin Durant. This, along with not offering Curry a signature shoe, caused the superstar to switch from Nike and sign with Under Armour.[12]
Petergrifindor wrote:Way long overdue.
Terrible, terrible... terrible move. Not only you lost the trade big time, but you ripped the heart of a franchise whose slogan was loyalty never fades. They were in love with the guy, seeing him as a continuation of their beloved Dirk...
Now they are not that team anymore. Not because the loss of a great player.
They don't have a real identity anymore.
Nico killed the Dallas Mavericks soul.
I smell Kidd mixed in with all of this.thelead wrote:Ain’t no way he acted alone in that trade. Yes, he’s dumb, but that trade still doesn’t add up.
We’re watching WWE with a round ball and hoop thrown into the equation.
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Niiice.The4thHorseman wrote:GrindCityHustle wrote:The fall guy
aka, Colt Seevers
"bpcox05 wrote:Anthony Davis
Kylie Irving
Daniel Gafford
Naji Marshall
D’Angelo Russell
For
Zach LaVine
DeMar DeRozan
Malik Monk
Dennis Schroder
Dario Saric
Doug McDermott
Picks*
*Curious what people think the required picks should be to balance this trade out. Having said that, I do want the Kings to rebuild but wouldn’t be surprised if Vivek quadrupled down on winning now.
PG - Irving (Rehab) / Westbrook / Russell
SG - Ellis / Carter
SF - Murray / Clifford
PF - Davis / Marshall / Achiuwa
C - Sabonis / Gafford / Eubanks / Raynaud
Billboards may be needed.Effigy wrote:Bad move. Now all the 'Fire Nico' Chants are just going to change to 'Sell the team'
" Geezus, that would not be good.thelead wrote:Imagine Nico being caught up in a gambling issue and the trade was how he paid off his debt…
You all know with everything going on, this wouldn’t be all that shocking
Edit: for the record, this is just my imagination making stuff up
" zero rings wrote:bpcox05 wrote:Anthony Davis
Kylie Irving
Daniel Gafford
Naji Marshall
D’Angelo Russell
For
Zach LaVine
DeMar DeRozan
Malik Monk
Dennis Schroder
Dario Saric
Doug McDermott
Picks*
*Curious what people think the required picks should be to balance this trade out. Having said that, I do want the Kings to rebuild but wouldn’t be surprised if Vivek quadrupled down on winning now.
PG - Irving (Rehab) / Westbrook / Russell
SG - Ellis / Carter
SF - Murray / Clifford
PF - Davis / Marshall / Achiuwa
C - Sabonis / Gafford / Eubanks / Raynaud
If I'm the Mavs, those better be some juicy unprotected picks.
zero rings wrote:Syd-TK3 wrote:Idk how anyone still believes that trade wasnt orchestrated bts for league purposes. It goes way beyond Nico
So what's the conspiracy on the Pels gifting the Hawks their 2026 frp?
That trade is arguably even more baffling than this one, and yet the tin foil hat people don't have any theories. They just accept that Joe Dumars is an idiot.
Why can't Nico Harrison be an idiot?
