Sengun Clutch Dagger on Turner with Giannis Chasing Him The Entire Time

[doogie_hauser]

I will never understand why some fans out there think the Rockets should trade Alpie.

Surely we have seen enough growth and development to declare him a legit franchise player.

[slicedbread2]

Big Alp just became the Turkish Delight. What an absolute stud. If he's even 75% the player Jokic is, you jump for joy. Anything more, it's icing on the cake!

The fact this dude fell to the 16th pick is crazy. Happy for him right now.

[California Gold]

Meh, I wasn't that impressed with it live. Good that he made the play in the end but if he gets the ball knocked out there for trying to do too much then you're possibly looking at OT.

[sashaturiaf]

Big Alp just became the Turkish Delight. What an absolute stud. If he's even 75% the player Jokic is, you jump for joy. Anything more, it's icing on the cake!

The fact this dude fell to the 16th pick is crazy. Happy for him right now.

Rockets hit so hard on Sengun it might just let them get away with drafting Green at 2 and Sheppard at 3.

[benhillboy]

Sengun didn't take 5 steps to get to the bucket either

Giannis has never fit into my basketball viewing tastes but after that last viral travel I simply cannot lay eyes on the Bucks unless they’re getting trashed by a team I actually enjoy.

That $&@! truly upset me. If he did that at a local gym he’d be stopped by security from trying to enter again.

[benhillboy]

Big Alp just became the Turkish Delight. What an absolute stud. If he's even 75% the player Jokic is, you jump for joy. Anything more, it's icing on the cake!

The fact this dude fell to the 16th pick is crazy. Happy for him right now.

He plays like a 15 year convict versus killers who just arrived in prison. I love it.

[PostGameDaVinci]

Watching Giannis guard on the perimeter is so frustrating. He's 7ft tall but tries to get into guys' chest like he's Pat Bev. Makes him so susceptible to blow-bys and pump fakes. He lacks discipline onball.

[ocelot17]

Bucks could’ve had sengun and now it’s obvious Giannis is going to demand a trade in the offseason.

[Sane]

Big Alp just became the Turkish Delight. What an absolute stud. If he's even 75% the player Jokic is, you jump for joy. Anything more, it's icing on the cake!

The fact this dude fell to the 16th pick is crazy. Happy for him right now.

Not only was he picked 16, but Sam Presti then kept with tradition of trading a great young player to Houston for peanuts. Thank god for Presti.

[sashaturiaf]

Watching Giannis guard on the perimeter is so frustrating. He's 7ft tall but tries to get into guys' chest like he's Pat Bev. Makes him so susceptible to blow-bys and pump fakes. He lacks discipline onball.

Well he's the one guy in the NBA who isn't there because of his fundamentals ....

[bonita_the_frog]

^ Giannis is here because of fundamentals, for the last SEVEN years Giannis has averaged 29.9 points, 12.0 rebounds, 6.0 assists!
Even when Giannis is 35-years-old i bet he'll still be dominating the NBA...
And this season Giannis is averaging 33.8 points, .631 field, .500 downtowners!

I can't find it, but I remember seeing a video of Magic Johnson only needing 3 dribbles to cover half the court, so Magic Johnson is less skillful than Giannis if you're going to attack Giannis for his dribbles... And Giannis is bigger and longer than Magic.

[freestyler34]

I will never understand why some fans out there think the Rockets should trade Alpie.

Surely we have seen enough growth and development to declare him a legit franchise player.

Rockets playing very bad when hes out, most of the guys on the team cant create their shots other than KD

[Infinite Llamas]

^ Giannis is here because of fundamentals, for the last SEVEN years Giannis has averaged 29.9 points, 12.0 rebounds, 6.0 assists!
Even when Giannis is 35-years-old i bet he'll still be dominating the NBA...
And this season Giannis is averaging 33.8 points, .631 field, .500 downtowners!

I can't find it, but I remember seeing a video of Magic Johnson only needing 3 dribbles to cover half the court, so Magic Johnson is less skillful than Giannis if you're going to attack Giannis for his dribbles... And Giannis is bigger and longer than Magic.

You posted stats. Those aren’t fundamentals.

Giannis is many things, but never struck me as the most fundamentally “sound” player in the league.

[bonita_the_frog]

You posted stats. Those aren’t fundamentals.

Giannis is many things, but never struck me as the most fundamentally “sound” player in the league.

Me neither, he's not #1 in the NBA in fundamentals, but he wouldn't be averaging 6 assists per game for the last 7 years without high-level fundamentals, and averaged 6.8 assists in the 2022 playoffs.

[Froob]

50M contest from Myles Turner

[Sane]

Meh, I wasn't that impressed with it live. Good that he made the play in the end but if he gets the ball knocked out there for trying to do too much then you're possibly looking at OT.

What the heck? You can apply that logic to any clutch play ever made by a superstar. If they get the ball knocked out, then it's bad. That's not the deciding factor in whether a star should take over or not. Of course there's risk.

Not only did he do it, but he faked Giannis out once, got to the paint, and then returned back outside the 3PT line to beat Giannis twice in the same play. Couldn't have possibly proven more that it was the right play. As Bucks fans and Sengun know, Giannis is way overconfident in his ability to stay in front of his man on the perimeter. Sengun simply dwarfed him with his bball IQ.

[Sane]

You posted stats. Those aren’t fundamentals.

Giannis is many things, but never struck me as the most fundamentally “sound” player in the league.

Me neither, he's not #1 in the NBA in fundamentals, but he wouldn't be averaging 6 assists per game for the last 7 years without high-level fundamentals, and averaged 6.8 assists in the 2022 playoffs.

?

Stephon Marbury had 0 fundamentals and was a league leader in assists. Using up the clock to get assists can actually sometimes end up negative. Also, passing instincts do not equate to fundamentals.

Fundamentals are things like:

Boxing out
Footwork
Defensive positioning
Off ball movement
Shooting technique
Passing ACCURACY (i.e. pass to the chest or bounce pass or overhead pass)
Hitting the open man (and these are often not assists)

To say he's good at FUNDAMENTALS because he hits the open man on drive and dish is not a strong argument dude.

[bonita_the_frog]

To say he's good at FUNDAMENTALS because he hits the open man on drive and dish is not a strong argument dude.

Then why is Wemby only averaging 3.4 assists per game, while Giannis is averaging 6.2 this season (and 6.5 the last 2 seasons)?
Wemby handles the ball plenty on the perimeter and draws defenders, so why does he and so many other high-scoring bigs fail to assist?
The most Dirk Nowitzki ever averaged was 3.5 assists, and his career average is 2.4 !!

[BruttoNostra]

To say he's good at FUNDAMENTALS because he hits the open man on drive and dish is not a strong argument dude.

Then why is Wemby only averaging 3.4 assists per game, while Giannis is averaging 6.2 this season (and 6.5 the last 2 seasons)?
Wemby handles the ball plenty on the perimeter and draws defenders, so why does he and so many other high-scoring bigs fail to assist?
The most Dirk Nowitzki ever averaged was 3.5 assists, and his career average is 2.4 !!

OMG, please stop posting stats you don't understand how are created during the game.

[BruttoNostra]

To say he's good at FUNDAMENTALS because he hits the open man on drive and dish is not a strong argument dude.

Then why is Wemby only averaging 3.4 assists per game, while Giannis is averaging 6.2 this season (and 6.5 the last 2 seasons)?
Wemby handles the ball plenty on the perimeter and draws defenders, so why does he and so many other high-scoring bigs fail to assist?
The most Dirk Nowitzki ever averaged was 3.5 assists, and his career average is 2.4 !!

Wemby - 68.9 touches per game, averaging 2.6 seconds per touch and just under 1.5 dribbles per touch.
Basic math and he has the ball in his hands for exactly 3 minutes each game.

Giannis - 81.5 touches per game, averaging 4.01 seconds per touch and 2.8 dribbles per touch.
Basic math and he has the ball in his hands for 5.5 minutes each game, almost twice as Wemby.

Even without watching games (in your case) - the stats alone show a very different role within the team.

Same data from a diff angle:
Bucks players time of possession in minutes:
Giannis - 5.5
Rollins - 5.0
Cole Anthony - 4.1
Kuzma - 1.5
...

Spurs players time of possession in minutes:
Castle - 6.4
Fox - 5.0
Harper - 3.8
Wemby - 3.0
Vassell - 1.9
KJ - 1.3
...