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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page 

Post#861 » by Mr B » Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:52 pm

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Mavrelous wrote:I never doubted Kidd had a hand in it.
I'm on team tank, and maximize Flagg development, Flagg + another top pick are good base.
If Hornets offer Mavs 27 and Heat 27 1sts for AD, pull the trigger, gives you another year to tank and clear the books and target 27 off season for FA signing.

If AD is traded to the Hornets wouldn’t you want Cooper Flagg’s Duke teammate Kon Knueppel?


Why would the Hornets take AD? They are going - again - absolutely nowhere this season

I was responding to someone saying if he’s traded to the Hornets. I agree though, the Hornets are not the right team that would want AD. However I could see Miami, or Chicago being interested in adding AD for a playoff run.
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Post#862 » by daoneandonly » Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:56 pm

I think the potential AD teams that could give us something we'd want are Chi, Det, or San Antonio. I dont see anything worthwhile from the Heat, but Dalals should def sell to the highest bidder among the other 3. Provided there's even a bidding war.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page 

Post#863 » by Mr B » Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:57 pm

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Teffer10 wrote:I hope Kyrie can get some good burn before the TDL, but I honestly don't see anyone trading for him this season.
Him and PJ would be nice pieces to move in the offseason imo.

Trading PJ and the 2026 FRP could allow the Mavs to move up in the draft and get that second star.


how should we move up in the draft? we are already one of the worst team in the league. we just need to continue losing and we will get a top 5 pick

That depends on who you think the Mavs want. Do you expect the Mavs to end up with the #1 pick again?
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page 

Post#864 » by Mr B » Wed Nov 12, 2025 2:00 pm

daoneandonly wrote:I think the potential AD teams that could give us something we'd want are Chi, Det, or San Antonio. I dont see anything worthwhile from the Heat, but Dalals should def sell to the highest bidder among the other 3. Provided there's even a bidding war.

Sell AD and Kyrie to the highest bidder. Mo sense in having them on the roster at this point. Do the same with Gafford and Naji. If someone offers a great deal for PJ he’s gone too. Klay should already be gone already.
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Post#865 » by daoneandonly » Wed Nov 12, 2025 2:35 pm

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daoneandonly wrote:I think the potential AD teams that could give us something we'd want are Chi, Det, or San Antonio. I dont see anything worthwhile from the Heat, but Dalals should def sell to the highest bidder among the other 3. Provided there's even a bidding war.

Sell AD and Kyrie to the highest bidder. Mo sense in having them on the roster at this point. Do the same with Gafford and Naji. If someone offers a great deal for PJ he’s gone too. Klay should already be gone already.


Id say keep Kyrie unless he asks out, he's not going to garner much now until he comes back and proves he's okay. Plus he's beloved by young guys. PJ cant eb traded this season and is a nice fit with Coop.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page 

Post#866 » by Mr B » Wed Nov 12, 2025 3:04 pm

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daoneandonly wrote:I think the potential AD teams that could give us something we'd want are Chi, Det, or San Antonio. I dont see anything worthwhile from the Heat, but Dalals should def sell to the highest bidder among the other 3. Provided there's even a bidding war.

Sell AD and Kyrie to the highest bidder. Mo sense in having them on the roster at this point. Do the same with Gafford and Naji. If someone offers a great deal for PJ he’s gone too. Klay should already be gone already.


Id say keep Kyrie unless he asks out, he's not going to garner much now until he comes back and proves he's okay. Plus he's beloved by young guys. PJ cant eb traded this season and is a nice fit with Coop.

My concern with Kyrie is that you’ll win more games with him making your lottery chances worse.
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Post#867 » by Super Cooper » Wed Nov 12, 2025 3:27 pm

There is the option to go after a Jrue and see if that could change up the team's dynamics. If you could get Jrue for non-essential pieces (not lowering the team's trade assets), it could make for a more valuable AD/Kyrie/Naji/PJ/Klay/Gaff/Dlive at the TDL. The risk you're taking, though, is winning just enough to not get into the lottery. I'm not saying do this, but it is a predictable trade if new management wants to work around the edges and not blow it up right away.
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Post#868 » by Bob8 » Wed Nov 12, 2025 3:40 pm

Super Cooper wrote:There is the option to go after a Jrue and see if that could change up the team's dynamics. If you could get Jrue for non-essential pieces (not lowering the team's trade assets), it could make for a more valuable AD/Kyrie/Naji/PJ/Klay/Gaff/Dlive at the TDL. The risk you're taking, though, is winning just enough to not get into the lottery. I'm not saying do this, but it is a predictable trade if new management wants to work around the edges and not blow it up right away.


Win now mode is over with Nico gone. There's 0 sense for trading for JRue.
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Post#869 » by Super Cooper » Wed Nov 12, 2025 3:55 pm

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Super Cooper wrote:There is the option to go after a Jrue and see if that could change up the team's dynamics. If you could get Jrue for non-essential pieces (not lowering the team's trade assets), it could make for a more valuable AD/Kyrie/Naji/PJ/Klay/Gaff/Dlive at the TDL. The risk you're taking, though, is winning just enough to not get into the lottery. I'm not saying do this, but it is a predictable trade if new management wants to work around the edges and not blow it up right away.


Win now mode is over with Nico gone. There's 0 sense for trading for JRue.


I'm not saying otherwise, simply that that is an option new management *may* take. Right now AD's value has never been less valuable; he is the punchline in the worst trade in NBA history and the emoji for street clothes. The risk there, as I wrote, is that we play out of the lottery and/or AD is in street clothes between now and the TDL.
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Post#870 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Nov 12, 2025 4:15 pm

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Super Cooper wrote:There is the option to go after a Jrue and see if that could change up the team's dynamics. If you could get Jrue for non-essential pieces (not lowering the team's trade assets), it could make for a more valuable AD/Kyrie/Naji/PJ/Klay/Gaff/Dlive at the TDL. The risk you're taking, though, is winning just enough to not get into the lottery. I'm not saying do this, but it is a predictable trade if new management wants to work around the edges and not blow it up right away.


Win now mode is over with Nico gone. There's 0 sense for trading for JRue.


Yes of course.

Plus i don't think Jrue will be available for cheap, maybe when he was in Boston because they wanted to dump him but Portland wants assets. At least 1 FRP... It remember me a lot the KP path Mavs-washington-boston.

And i don't think adding Jrue doesn't change a lot, at this point play one PO serie is almost useless.
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Post#871 » by Super Cooper » Wed Nov 12, 2025 4:35 pm

My Roster assessment:

Corner of the Franchise: Coop

Get rid of at all costs: Klay, Martin, DP

Trade if in total rebuild: AD, Kyrie

Decent trade value, include in any big trades: DLive, Bwill, Hardy, DLo, Naji

Could be roster pieces in a rebuild, trade if absolutely needed: PJ, Max, Gaff
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Post#872 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Nov 12, 2025 4:37 pm

I hope instead that all players but Coop and maybe Max are available for trades.
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Post#873 » by Super Cooper » Wed Nov 12, 2025 4:51 pm

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Super Cooper wrote:There is the option to go after a Jrue and see if that could change up the team's dynamics. If you could get Jrue for non-essential pieces (not lowering the team's trade assets), it could make for a more valuable AD/Kyrie/Naji/PJ/Klay/Gaff/Dlive at the TDL. The risk you're taking, though, is winning just enough to not get into the lottery. I'm not saying do this, but it is a predictable trade if new management wants to work around the edges and not blow it up right away.


Win now mode is over with Nico gone. There's 0 sense for trading for JRue.


Yes of course.

Plus i don't think Jrue will be available for cheap, maybe when he was in Boston because they wanted to dump him but Portland wants assets. At least 1 FRP... It remember me a lot the KP path Mavs-washington-boston.

And i don't think adding Jrue doesn't change a lot, at this point play one PO serie is almost useless.


Well, he was just traded for 2 SRPs and a younger version of DLo; that value hasn't gone up since. Not to mention, he's owed a whopping $104.4m in the next 3 years (last year $37.2m with PO). It's easy to say there's ~$60m of dead money in that contract. There's no way POR is getting a FRP for Jrue.

The question isn't whether or not POR would take him for a salary dump; it's whether the Mavs would pay him $104.4m to attempt to win now.

Again, I'm not saying I would do this, just is a predictable move if they want to put "blow it up" on an egg timer.
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Post#874 » by Super Cooper » Wed Nov 12, 2025 5:00 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:I hope instead that all players but Coop and maybe Max are available for trades.


Even PJ? IMO, he could be a go-forward nucleus (Max 22yo, Coop 18yo, PJ 27yo). Gaff is also only 26yo and could be in the go-forward plan. IMO, PJ/Gaff/Max are trade if necessary, but none of the 3 are important enough to say they're not tradable.
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Post#875 » by Mr B » Wed Nov 12, 2025 5:37 pm

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Super Cooper wrote:There is the option to go after a Jrue and see if that could change up the team's dynamics. If you could get Jrue for non-essential pieces (not lowering the team's trade assets), it could make for a more valuable AD/Kyrie/Naji/PJ/Klay/Gaff/Dlive at the TDL. The risk you're taking, though, is winning just enough to not get into the lottery. I'm not saying do this, but it is a predictable trade if new management wants to work around the edges and not blow it up right away.


Win now mode is over with Nico gone. There's 0 sense for trading for JRue.

Yea with Nico gone I think the best plan is to tank hard the rest of this season and get as high a pick as possible. I would LOVE to be able to draft Darryn Peterson at #1 but even if the Mavs can get him they should be able to get a really good young talent with a top 5 pick.

Also considering the Mavs don’t have any control over their own pick (after 2026) they need to trade for as many 1st round picks as possible in my opinion.

Does OKC still have a ton of 1st round picks?
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Post#876 » by Mr B » Wed Nov 12, 2025 5:40 pm

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41Dirk41 wrote:I hope instead that all players but Coop and maybe Max are available for trades.


Even PJ? IMO, he could be a go-forward nucleus (Max 22yo, Coop 18yo, PJ 27yo). Gaff is also only 26yo and could be in the go-forward plan. IMO, PJ/Gaff/Max are trade if necessary, but none of the 3 are important enough to say they're not tradable.

I would want to keep PJ however if a team offers up a decent 1st round pick and/or good young player for him I’m letting him go.
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Post#877 » by Mr B » Wed Nov 12, 2025 5:48 pm

Here are 5 trades for Anthony Davis that could happen as suggested by The Ringer. Personally I like the Chicago trade.

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Post#878 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Nov 12, 2025 5:53 pm

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41Dirk41 wrote:I hope instead that all players but Coop and maybe Max are available for trades.


Even PJ? IMO, he could be a go-forward nucleus (Max 22yo, Coop 18yo, PJ 27yo). Gaff is also only 26yo and could be in the go-forward plan. IMO, PJ/Gaff/Max are trade if necessary, but none of the 3 are important enough to say they're not tradable.

I would want to keep PJ however if a team offers up a decent 1st round pick and/or good young player for him I’m letting him go.


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Post#879 » by Archx » Wed Nov 12, 2025 6:13 pm

Each new story that comes out now on Nico is more wild. But i love it, the way he **** talked Luka.

Multiple league sources said Davis has tried to convince the Mavs to let him return to the court, and Harrison urged him to return, but the team’s medical staff forbade it, citing the potential for a torn Achilles if Davis returned too soon.

And regarding the new GM role.

Finley, 52, a 15-year NBA vet as a player who spent most of his career with the Mavericks, is most famous as an executive for taking the beer out of Dončić’s hands during the team’s celebration for reaching the finals in 2024. League sources said he was, at least initially, reluctant to accept the promotion.

Riccardi, 39, is a former mid-level front-office member of the Brooklyn Nets who joined the Mavericks in 2022 and was promoted to assistant general manager by Harrison the following year. If Riccardi is promoted as Harrison’s full-time successor, league sources said, it would be a clear sign of Kidd’s sway with Dumont and the organization.


And this is interesting because Shams was reporting that Kidd agreed with the Luka trade.

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Post#880 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Nov 12, 2025 6:29 pm

Kidd was agree just like Finley & Dumont. No one is safe in the FO. They are all guilty.

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