Bradley Beal is out for the season

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Re: Bradley Beal is out for the season 

Post#61 » by PushDaRock » Wed Nov 12, 2025 9:55 pm

og15 wrote:
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og15 wrote:Beal brought down the average age of the team :lol:

He's actually not particularly old for an NBA player, it's all the other guys


32 is pretty ancient these days.

Is it? Giannis is 31 and Jokic is 30. Powell who people are saying why didn't they keep him instead is 32 also. We have a lot of the older stars actually finding ways to prolong their careers. I would say 32 these days is younger than it was in some past times, not the opposite.


Those are Superstars. Sticking around past 30 as a role player is really difficult these days.

Powell is an outlier. How many guys have career years at 32?
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Re: Bradley Beal is out for the season 

Post#62 » by Crives » Wed Nov 12, 2025 10:01 pm

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Re: Bradley Beal is out for the season 

Post#63 » by DusterBuster » Wed Nov 12, 2025 10:34 pm

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DusterBuster wrote:Why did the Clippers move Norm Powell for nothing again?

I'll never understand why that dude continues to get moved by every team he's on for like a bag of chips.

Toronto moved him for Gary Trent Jr and Rodney Hood. Hood was pretty much broken down by that point and was salary filler, it was basically a swap of Trent for Norm. Trent was somewhat up-and-coming on his rookie deal still, proven shooter but had no real other skills outside of that... which ended up being the book on him forever and he's been a vet min to half-MLE guy ever since.

Portland moved him and Covington to Clippers for essentially just broken down expiring salary filler guys and a 2nd round pick. So pure and utter salary dump by the Blazers with nothing of consequence in return.

Than Clippers move him to the Heat for a player in John Collins who literally every team immediately wants off the roster as soon as he puts on their jersey (Atlanta and Utah).

All the while, Powell just continues to put up +20ppg seasons whenever he's a starter. Does this dude have some weird odor that makes the lockerrooms stink or something... what's the deal?

As you mentioned, Powell was traded for John Collins and a 2nd, John Collins gives the team an athletic bigger forward that allows them to not have to play Kawhi at the 4 as much as they were being forced to.

Powell is 32, 33 in May. His contract expires. The Clippers don't want large contracts (unless it's a guy they can build with) beyond the 26-27 season as they are aiming to have flexibility in order to do some sort of rebuilding with their low draft pick situation. Powell is not a future building block player at 33. Even at 28 and 4 years younger, neither is Collins, but Powell is much better and Powell will demand and be capable of getting much more money in free agency. Collins can still be signed for much cheaper and certainly shorter than Powell if they want to keep him as a role player.

Beal was supposed to provide part of the scoring lost by Powell, while Collins then gives them that bigger forward to help Kawhi. So you lose Powell, but gain Beal, Collins and less Kawhi guarding 4's. Things don't always work out, but there's nothing special about them keeping Powell. He would be playing great, but there would be no plan to re-sign him, and they would just ride out the year with him and then goodbye for nothing.


I was more opining on why no one seems to want to keep Powell or why his value is perpetually in the toilet. Toronto didn't want to pay for his new contract, Portland was willing to do the resigning, but quickly wanted out of it, than when he's at his career best, the Clippers - as you bring out - want absolutely nothing to do with resigning him.

He's just had a bit of a baffling career.
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Re: Bradley Beal is out for the season 

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Re: Bradley Beal is out for the season 

Post#65 » by DavidSterned » Wed Nov 12, 2025 10:58 pm

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32 is pretty ancient these days.

Is it? Giannis is 31 and Jokic is 30. Powell who people are saying why didn't they keep him instead is 32 also. We have a lot of the older stars actually finding ways to prolong their careers. I would say 32 these days is younger than it was in some past times, not the opposite.


Those are Superstars. Sticking around past 30 as a role player is really difficult these days.

Powell is an outlier. How many guys have career years at 32?


I think there's a difference between expecting a career year and expecting to simply not fall off an absolute cliff, as Beal has done. Plenty of role player guys stay useful past 30 and Beal was an all star at his best.

He definitely had a premature decline, he's looked pretty washed for 2-3 years now and was still precipitously declining even before this injury.
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Post#66 » by strokerace » Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:10 pm

Beal out for the season might actually hurt OKC draft pick because there's a better chance someone else fills Beal's role and is more productive. This could be a win for the Clippers in a way.
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Post#67 » by NZB2323 » Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:11 pm

I honestly forgot what team he played for. It doesn’t really matter.
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Post#68 » by JayMKE » Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:22 pm

Beal was cooked anyways, don’t think you could expect much even if he was healthy. Collecting a paycheck.
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Re: Bradley Beal is out for the season 

Post#69 » by og15 » Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:23 pm

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DusterBuster wrote:Why did the Clippers move Norm Powell for nothing again?

I'll never understand why that dude continues to get moved by every team he's on for like a bag of chips.

Toronto moved him for Gary Trent Jr and Rodney Hood. Hood was pretty much broken down by that point and was salary filler, it was basically a swap of Trent for Norm. Trent was somewhat up-and-coming on his rookie deal still, proven shooter but had no real other skills outside of that... which ended up being the book on him forever and he's been a vet min to half-MLE guy ever since.

Portland moved him and Covington to Clippers for essentially just broken down expiring salary filler guys and a 2nd round pick. So pure and utter salary dump by the Blazers with nothing of consequence in return.

Than Clippers move him to the Heat for a player in John Collins who literally every team immediately wants off the roster as soon as he puts on their jersey (Atlanta and Utah).

All the while, Powell just continues to put up +20ppg seasons whenever he's a starter. Does this dude have some weird odor that makes the lockerrooms stink or something... what's the deal?

As you mentioned, Powell was traded for John Collins and a 2nd, John Collins gives the team an athletic bigger forward that allows them to not have to play Kawhi at the 4 as much as they were being forced to.

Powell is 32, 33 in May. His contract expires. The Clippers don't want large contracts (unless it's a guy they can build with) beyond the 26-27 season as they are aiming to have flexibility in order to do some sort of rebuilding with their low draft pick situation. Powell is not a future building block player at 33. Even at 28 and 4 years younger, neither is Collins, but Powell is much better and Powell will demand and be capable of getting much more money in free agency. Collins can still be signed for much cheaper and certainly shorter than Powell if they want to keep him as a role player.

Beal was supposed to provide part of the scoring lost by Powell, while Collins then gives them that bigger forward to help Kawhi. So you lose Powell, but gain Beal, Collins and less Kawhi guarding 4's. Things don't always work out, but there's nothing special about them keeping Powell. He would be playing great, but there would be no plan to re-sign him, and they would just ride out the year with him and then goodbye for nothing.


I was more opining on why no one seems to want to keep Powell or why his value is perpetually in the toilet. Toronto didn't want to pay for his new contract, Portland was willing to do the resigning, but quickly wanted out of it, than when he's at his career best, the Clippers - as you bring out - want absolutely nothing to do with resigning him.

He's just had a bit of a baffling career.

You know what, I'm not sure, maybe there's some smaller non playmaking guard bias. If he was 6'6 and producing the same way, would he be moved so much?

I don't know. I'm also not sure what Miami is going to do with him after this season, because he will still be 33 and want at least a decent contract.
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Re: Bradley Beal is out for the season 

Post#70 » by Fo-Real » Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:26 pm

Damn, they better bubble wrap Chris Paul right now!!!
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Post#71 » by pr0wler » Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:26 pm

Beal averaged 17 PPG on very good efficiency last year, why is everyone acting like he was completely toast? Sure, he wasn't great in the few games he played with the Clipz. But it was a small sample size and he was coming back from injury. He's been relatively healthy his entire career...just some bad timing.

This is a big loss for the Clips.
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Post#72 » by Capn'O » Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:27 pm

Mamba Mentality wrote:people actually thought this geriatric squad was going to be good


Like, every year.

This is the most predictable news in the history of predictable news.
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Post#73 » by lambchop » Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:33 pm

Capn'O wrote:
Mamba Mentality wrote:people actually thought this geriatric squad was going to be good


Like, every year.

This is the most predictable news in the history of predictable news.


Clippers realistically only had a shot in 2020 in the bubble, but eventually blew a 3-1 lead. It was all downhill from there.
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Re: Bradley Beal is out for the season 

Post#74 » by Capn'O » Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:35 pm

lambchop wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Mamba Mentality wrote:people actually thought this geriatric squad was going to be good


Like, every year.

This is the most predictable news in the history of predictable news.


Clippers realistically only had a shot in 2020 in the bubble, but eventually blew a 3-1 lead. It was all downhill from there.


I thought they were better the next year but Kawhi turned to dust. As he does.
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Post#75 » by knicksfan974 » Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:42 pm

HMFFL wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Terrible news especially given how washed Bogi looks.
For sure.
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The Olympics in 2024?
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Post#76 » by knicksfan974 » Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:45 pm

FrobeBryant wrote:Read somewhere that he's earned $318 M with only having won 22 playoff games for his career. His agent is the real MVP.


Only Markkanen can beat that. Still with zero playoff appearances.
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Post#77 » by knicksfan974 » Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:47 pm

PushDaRock wrote:Decent chance his career is done.

lol as if OKC could be sitting any prettier. They have pick swaps with them for the next 2 seasons.


Really, 2027 also? Wow that sucks so bad for the Clippers.
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Post#78 » by JimmyPlopper » Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:53 pm

Mr. Perfect wrote:Who would have thought that both Beal and Wall would end up becoming complete bums just robbing teams of money.


Wall + Beal = Morant + Bane...?
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Re: Bradley Beal is out for the season 

Post#79 » by MrGoat » Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:55 pm

knicksfan974 wrote:
FrobeBryant wrote:Read somewhere that he's earned $318 M with only having won 22 playoff games for his career. His agent is the real MVP.


Only Markkanen can beat that. Still with zero playoff appearances.


Lavine has only played in 4 playoff games in his 12 year career, he'll have earned over 300M after his current contract is finished
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Re: Bradley Beal is out for the season 

Post#80 » by Quattro » Thu Nov 13, 2025 12:04 am

This will actually hurt OKCs draft pick.

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