2025 Blue Jays Offseason Thread

[Mehar]

Now that I have settled down a bit and my disgust with Varsho has subsided for his atrocious post-season, along with his horrific final two games including not being able to hit a SAC FLY in the 9th to win the World Series- looking at the team budget and salaries, I would not mind him hitting 8th or 9th and playing CF at an arbitration number of 10 million in 2026. He can be the 2026 version of Kevin Kiermaier who got a similar salary from the Jays a couple of years ago.

Just go with Barger at RF and Santander in LF also. I was never a fan of the Santander signing, but he is going nowhere with that contract. So stick him in LF and hopes he can bounce back in 2026. If Bichette comes back, he can play Second, Gimenez with his awful contract at SS, then Vlad and Clement rounding out the infield. Have Lukes coming off the bench.

Instead of paying 400 million to Tucker, who I feel is overrated and not a true franchise player at that price- I would just double down on pitching and sign a front line Starter, another elite Closer, and another high leverage reliever. If Bo leaves, then I would move Barger to 3rd base, Clement at Second and then make a possible run at Bellinger for RF.

[Madvillainy2004]

The american media is in a tizzy over this Bieber thing lmao its pretty clear he likes it here/wanted to maximize the Jays ability to add FAs for another WS run by taking less and can still get his long term deal after this season and a decent chance he gets his control on his offspeed back and hes gets a 2022 Gausman like deal in FA. I cant help but think the narrative if a Dodger or Yankee did this would be "wow what a great franchise" lol

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Omg **** the dodgers man these **** guys steal everyone. Maybe the Tucker and Springer connection mean something. That being said we need better pitching.

[Boogie!]

Now that I have settled down a bit and my disgust with Varsho has subsided for his atrocious post-season, along with his horrific final two games including not being able to hit a SAC FLY in the 9th to win the World Series- looking at the team budget and salaries, I would not mind him hitting 8th or 9th and playing CF at an arbitration number of 10 million in 2026. He can be the 2026 version of Kevin Kiermaier who got a similar salary from the Jays a couple of years ago.

Just go with Barger at RF and Santander in LF also. I was never a fan of the Santander signing, but he is going nowhere with that contract. So stick him in LF and hopes he can bounce back in 2026. If Bichette comes back, he can play Second, Gimenez with his awful contract at SS, then Vlad and Clement rounding out the infield. Have Lukes coming off the bench.

Instead of paying 400 million to Tucker, who I feel is overrated and not a true franchise player at that price- I would just double down on pitching and sign a front line Starter, another elite Closer, and another high leverage reliever. If Bo leaves, then I would move Barger to 3rd base, Clement at Second and then make a possible run at Bellinger for RF.

Seriously everyone kept bitching about Ikf, but all varsho has to do is hit it in the **** air. I know easier said than done but man…

You know what really frustrates me about it too is I remember post game after game 1 of World Series i think, varsho talking about the homer off of Blake snell said “I’m really just trying to hit a ground ball to the pitcher and it works for me.” Which makes no logical sense btw…

I can’t help but think the **** entire time during that at bat in the 9th or 10th when he just needed a sac fly was like “ground ball to the pitcher, ground ball to the pitcher” and that’s almost exactly what he did but just pulled it slightly ro the right and at the second baseman playing shallow who expectedly throws Ikf out at home…

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I think at this point Free agency should only begin after Dodgers have signed all their guys. There’s no point of open Free agency if Dodgers are just going to scoop everyone up anyways.

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I will be disappointed if the blue jays don’t aim to have one of the best pitching staffs in baseball going into next season. No more of this bull with guys like little being your high leverage guys. Their bullpen better be full of dudes that are legit proven performers.

[Randle McMurphy]

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I will be disappointed if the blue jays don’t aim to have one of the best pitching staffs in baseball going into next season. No more of this bull with guys like little being your high leverage guys. Their bullpen better be full of dudes that are legit proven performers.

They paid big money to a "proven performer" out of the bullpen last year. We saw how that worked out when it really mattered.

Maybe add a guy or two of real quality to reduce your risk, but I wouldn't invest heavy money in relievers ever. Bullpens are too variable.

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I will be disappointed if the blue jays don’t aim to have one of the best pitching staffs in baseball going into next season. No more of this bull with guys like little being your high leverage guys. Their bullpen better be full of dudes that are legit proven performers.

They paid big money to a "proven performer" out of the bullpen last year. We saw how that worked out when it really mattered.

Maybe add a guy or two of real quality to reduce your risk, but I wouldn't invest heavy money in relievers ever. Bullpens are too variable.

Was there any official word on why the other teams passed on Hoffman? Weren’t other teams about to sign him first before they saw the medical reports and backed out?

[polo007]

Was there any official word on why the other teams passed on Hoffman? Weren’t other teams about to sign him first before they saw the medical reports and backed out?

Both the Baltimore Orioles and the Atlanta Braves declined to finalize deals with Jeff Hoffman last offseason because he failed his physical with both teams.

Reports indicated that the physicals flagged a shoulder issue on his throwing arm.

The Braves had reportedly offered a five-year contract worth between $45-48 million, with a chance to compete for a spot in the starting rotation. They backed out after his physical.

The Orioles had reportedly agreed to terms on a three-year, $40 million deal but pulled out after the shoulder concern was identified in his physical.

[Randle McMurphy]

I will be disappointed if the blue jays don’t aim to have one of the best pitching staffs in baseball going into next season. No more of this bull with guys like little being your high leverage guys. Their bullpen better be full of dudes that are legit proven performers.

They paid big money to a "proven performer" out of the bullpen last year. We saw how that worked out when it really mattered.

Maybe add a guy or two of real quality to reduce your risk, but I wouldn't invest heavy money in relievers ever. Bullpens are too variable.

Was there any official word on why the other teams passed on Hoffman? Weren’t other teams about to sign him first before they saw the medical reports and backed out?

His shoulder was the issue although there was no real sign of that in year 1. Stuff wasn’t the issue for him.

[Madvillainy2004]

The worst part about this Ken Rosenthal reporting on Bieber is hes too pussy to come out and say he thinks the Jays did something "outside the rules" or "illegal" so hes so he keeps just winking at the camera and saying "hmmmmmm really weird right guys?" And implying it.

[Randle McMurphy]

The worst part about this Ken Rosenthal reporting on Bieber is hes too pussy to come out and say he thinks the Jays did something "outside the rules" or "illegal" so hes so he keeps just winking at the camera and saying "hmmmmmm really weird right guys?" And implying it.

Rest of the teams in baseball are clearly absolutely livid about that option being picked up and the executives are no doubt letting him know.

[Boogie!]

They paid big money to a "proven performer" out of the bullpen last year. We saw how that worked out when it really mattered.

Maybe add a guy or two of real quality to reduce your risk, but I wouldn't invest heavy money in relievers ever. Bullpens are too variable.

Was there any official word on why the other teams passed on Hoffman? Weren’t other teams about to sign him first before they saw the medical reports and backed out?

His shoulder was the issue although there was no real sign of that in year 1. Stuff wasn’t the issue for him.

I mean how does one explain the decline in his velocity throughout the season… he started off routinely throwing 96-97 on his fastball, to eventually throwing 95 at his best in the playoffs… how can we not think it’s related to whatever he was flagged for…

[Boogie!]

Was there any official word on why the other teams passed on Hoffman? Weren’t other teams about to sign him first before they saw the medical reports and backed out?

Both the Baltimore Orioles and the Atlanta Braves declined to finalize deals with Jeff Hoffman last offseason because he failed his physical with both teams.

Reports indicated that the physicals flagged a shoulder issue on his throwing arm.

The Braves had reportedly offered a five-year contract worth between $45-48 million, with a chance to compete for a spot in the starting rotation. They backed out after his physical.

The Orioles had reportedly agreed to terms on a three-year, $40 million deal but pulled out after the shoulder concern was identified in his physical.

Two teams passed on him because of failed physicals and this was the guy we picked up to be our World Series level closer. Tough luck.

[Mehar]

Was there any official word on why the other teams passed on Hoffman? Weren’t other teams about to sign him first before they saw the medical reports and backed out?

Both the Baltimore Orioles and the Atlanta Braves declined to finalize deals with Jeff Hoffman last offseason because he failed his physical with both teams.

Reports indicated that the physicals flagged a shoulder issue on his throwing arm.

The Braves had reportedly offered a five-year contract worth between $45-48 million, with a chance to compete for a spot in the starting rotation. They backed out after his physical.

The Orioles had reportedly agreed to terms on a three-year, $40 million deal but pulled out after the shoulder concern was identified in his physical.

Phillies passed on signing Hoffman all together, after he received his offer from Toronto and decided that cost was not worth it to bring him back. Their GM Dumbrowski said in Spring Training in a response to a Philly reporter that they did not want to pay those dollars for Hoffman who was never a full-time Closer previously over the course of a 162 Game Season. Maybe he knew something the Jays front office did not, which was that Hoffman was not Closer Material and best suited as a Set Up Man.