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Re: Our coach sucks 

Post#41 » by Appostis » Tue Nov 11, 2025 10:07 am

earthtone wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:Don't worry, he'll be fired first if things turn mediocre for us. Funny because that's where we were headed until Battle saved us in Cleveland.

If we lost that game, it would have been rock bottom. Battle's reward for that? Enjoy the bench lol

It would have been rock bottom if we lost game 6 of the regular season?



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Re: Our coach sucks 

Post#42 » by Hottie McShotty » Tue Nov 11, 2025 11:10 am

HiJiNX wrote:Overreaction.

And I’m not a huge fan of Darko. But he’s done well to have us at 5-5 at ten games.


I think the overreaction is coming from the fact that we've sucked for a while now, and we want to see results. Most of us are tired of the losing.
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Re: Our coach sucks 

Post#43 » by Appostis » Tue Nov 11, 2025 12:04 pm

Hottie McShotty wrote:
HiJiNX wrote:Overreaction.

And I’m not a huge fan of Darko. But he’s done well to have us at 5-5 at ten games.


I think the overreaction is coming from the fact that we've sucked for a while now, and we want to see results. Most of us are tired of the losing.


It's been what? 3 years?
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Re: Our coach sucks 

Post#44 » by tsherkin » Tue Nov 11, 2025 2:50 pm

We're .500 with a team that projects, at best, to be 4 or 5 games above .500.

We may not love some of the individual choices Darko is making, but it's not like we're running Shaq and Kobe out there and coming up short. We're doing all right.

We were last a .500 team over a RS in 2023, having previously just posted 25 and 30 wins.

We should probably chill a bit and see how the season plays out. It's been 10 games, or about 12% of the regular season.
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Re: Our coach sucks 

Post#45 » by TheGeneral99 » Tue Nov 11, 2025 2:56 pm

I have also found some of his moves questionable, but a 5-5 start on a difficult schedule with our starting center injured for half the games is not bad.
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Re: Our coach sucks 

Post#46 » by Hottie McShotty » Tue Nov 11, 2025 3:42 pm

Appostis wrote:
Hottie McShotty wrote:
HiJiNX wrote:Overreaction.

And I’m not a huge fan of Darko. But he’s done well to have us at 5-5 at ten games.


I think the overreaction is coming from the fact that we've sucked for a while now, and we want to see results. Most of us are tired of the losing.


It's been what? 3 years?


Only one winning record in the past 5 years. How can anyone be satisfied with that?

Seaon Record Playoffs
2025-26 Raptors 5-5 .500 9th, East Conference - - TBD
2024-25 Raptors 30-52 .366 11th, East Conference - - DNQ
2023-24 Raptors 25-57 .305 12th, East Conference - - DNQ
2022-23 Raptors 41-41 .500 9th, East Conference - - DNQ (lost Play-in)
2021-22 Raptors 48-34 .585 5th, East Conference 2-4 .333 Lost East Conf 1st Rd
2020-21 Raptors 27-45 .375 12th, East Conference - - DNQ
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Re: Our coach sucks 

Post#47 » by dTox » Tue Nov 11, 2025 3:57 pm

Hottie McShotty wrote:
Appostis wrote:
Hottie McShotty wrote:
I think the overreaction is coming from the fact that we've sucked for a while now, and we want to see results. Most of us are tired of the losing.


It's been what? 3 years?


Only one winning record in the past 5 years. How can anyone be satisfied with that?

Seaon Record Playoffs
2025-26 Raptors 5-5 .500 9th, East Conference - - TBD
2024-25 Raptors 30-52 .366 11th, East Conference - - DNQ
2023-24 Raptors 25-57 .305 12th, East Conference - - DNQ
2022-23 Raptors 41-41 .500 9th, East Conference - - DNQ (lost Play-in)
2021-22 Raptors 48-34 .585 5th, East Conference 2-4 .333 Lost East Conf 1st Rd
2020-21 Raptors 27-45 .375 12th, East Conference - - DNQ


Have you seen the roster this man has had to deal with over the past 3 years? The anger should be pointed at the FO, who put out a tanking roster for the past 3-4 years, and also has been trading out first round picks at the same time, very confusing direction.
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Re: Our coach sucks 

Post#48 » by raincityraptors » Tue Nov 11, 2025 4:20 pm

My favorite player prototype is bully defenders.

Watching what Darko and staff have done with Scottie's shot, with Shead's shot (whom I watched closely in college and thought would get to this level of comfort with the 3 ball somewhere between year 3 and 5), with CMB's shot and even how he helped Gradey go from the literal worst player in the league to a passable guard in his rookie season with that G-League stint.

That man's development of players up and down the roster is a big reason why we have effective depth on our team. We have a good offensive system. With the adjustments made to defense, we are already improving.

We have benefitted from his primary skills as a developer of players, let's be patient with him as he continues to develop with reps to become a playoff coach.

I believe in his ability to become both. I feel like our fanbase is a little greedy expecting both at once especially for what we pay him. Just like his players, Darko has potential and he's growing into it. There are going to be setbacks along the way but overall he's learning and when he puts it all together, I hope he's still coaching the Raptors.

I wanted Jordi but what Darko has done from the development side proved me wrong.
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Re: Our coach sucks 

Post#49 » by Yallbecrazy » Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:23 pm

Darko's system seems to be damn good, his player development is elite, his rotations are subpar, but this is the first season he's had with passable NBA talent at his disposal.
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Re: Our coach sucks 

Post#50 » by earthtone » Tue Nov 11, 2025 9:24 pm

Hottie McShotty wrote:
Appostis wrote:
Hottie McShotty wrote:
I think the overreaction is coming from the fact that we've sucked for a while now, and we want to see results. Most of us are tired of the losing.


It's been what? 3 years?


Only one winning record in the past 5 years. How can anyone be satisfied with that?

Seaon Record Playoffs
2025-26 Raptors 5-5 .500 9th, East Conference - - TBD
2024-25 Raptors 30-52 .366 11th, East Conference - - DNQ
2023-24 Raptors 25-57 .305 12th, East Conference - - DNQ
2022-23 Raptors 41-41 .500 9th, East Conference - - DNQ (lost Play-in)
2021-22 Raptors 48-34 .585 5th, East Conference 2-4 .333 Lost East Conf 1st Rd
2020-21 Raptors 27-45 .375 12th, East Conference - - DNQ

I mean a lot has gone on in those past couple years. I think Scottie is our only player who was on the roster at the start if the 2023 season.

We had the Covid year, a playoff team, a play-in team, and a two-year rebuild leading into this season.

I’m pretty satisfied with where we are at this stage tbh, this team is clearly on an upward trajectory
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Re: Our coach sucks 

Post#51 » by Appostis » Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:34 am

earthtone wrote:
Hottie McShotty wrote:
Appostis wrote:
It's been what? 3 years?


Only one winning record in the past 5 years. How can anyone be satisfied with that?

Seaon Record Playoffs
2025-26 Raptors 5-5 .500 9th, East Conference - - TBD
2024-25 Raptors 30-52 .366 11th, East Conference - - DNQ
2023-24 Raptors 25-57 .305 12th, East Conference - - DNQ
2022-23 Raptors 41-41 .500 9th, East Conference - - DNQ (lost Play-in)
2021-22 Raptors 48-34 .585 5th, East Conference 2-4 .333 Lost East Conf 1st Rd
2020-21 Raptors 27-45 .375 12th, East Conference - - DNQ

I mean a lot has gone on in those past couple years. I think Scottie is our only player who was on the roster at the start if the 2023 season.

We had the Covid year, a playoff team, a play-in team, and a two-year rebuild leading into this season.

I’m pretty satisfied with where we are at this stage tbh, this team is clearly on an upward trajectory

They rather keep yelling about how the sky is falling then look at the situation objectively.
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Re: Our coach sucks 

Post#52 » by Raps in 4 » Wed Nov 12, 2025 3:17 am

Darko > Jordi
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Re: Our coach sucks 

Post#53 » by mathgeek » Wed Nov 12, 2025 4:12 am

Darko is a great coach. Anyone that says otherwise is probably too young and has not witnessed the Raptors bad years and bad coaches. Kevin O'Neil, Butch Carter, heck even a guy like Sam Mitchell was not a good coach despite him winning COY. The issue here is that our team just doesn't have the talent to compete against the top teams. We're on a rebuild and just lost our GM. We're clearly heading in a different direction but Darko is a great coach in terms of player development and tactics. Sure his substitution patterns maybe not the best but it's not like our guys are exact 6th men caliber out here. A guy like Jakobe gets time because he must be a good hard worker in practice and is relatively young so he gets rewarded.
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Re: Our coach sucks 

Post#54 » by bape_lovers » Wed Nov 12, 2025 4:38 pm

brother, people being screaming for a rebuild since kawhi left. If you look back the year after we won, people said we should've tank and trade everyone. Look at the tWo thread and see when it was created. A lot of people still ain't happy and should continue losing

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HiJiNX wrote:Overreaction.

And I’m not a huge fan of Darko. But he’s done well to have us at 5-5 at ten games.


I think the overreaction is coming from the fact that we've sucked for a while now, and we want to see results. Most of us are tired of the losing.
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Re: Our coach sucks 

Post#55 » by WiggOuts » Wed Nov 12, 2025 9:09 pm

Dennis 37 wrote:
WiggOuts wrote:shooters have games where they get hot and put up points, it happens. Say what you will but Gradey is still a better player than Batlle regardless of hot/cold streaks. They arent just going to stop playing Gradye/Jakobe, theyve invested 1st round picks in these guys. The problem arent the players, the problem is the glut at the position


Our teams always played their best when minutes were earned. If players were failing on defence, they were pulled.

while true, there have always been guys that were exceptions
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Re: Our coach sucks 

Post#56 » by HiJiNX » Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:36 pm

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Re: Our coach sucks 

Post#57 » by S.W.A.N » Wed Nov 12, 2025 11:54 pm

HiJiNX wrote:
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Bad coaching.



just brutal. we need a new coach.


Is Kevin O'neil available?
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Re: Our coach sucks 

Post#58 » by OhCanada » Thu Nov 13, 2025 5:01 am

Actually, the halfcourt offense has looked alot better this year. The team is top 5 in assists and I think top 10 in threes last time I checked.Hes doing a good job. I would rather see Battle get some minutes but its an 82 game season and we dont know what the Raptors plan is. We dont know if they said "hey Jakobe/ Ochai were gonna give you 15 games to see what you can do in this role". We dont know if they plan on resting guys soon for load management. Just be patient they are building from a terrible season and above .500 in a tough early season, Ingram is still getting his athletisism back but has transitioned great, Scottie has taken pride in being our Scottie Pippen/Draymond Green do everything guy. Things could be alot worse.
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Re: Our coach sucks 

Post#59 » by OhCanada » Thu Nov 13, 2025 5:10 am

mathgeek wrote:Darko is a great coach. Anyone that says otherwise is probably too young and has not witnessed the Raptors bad years and bad coaches. Kevin O'Neil, Butch Carter, heck even a guy like Sam Mitchell was not a good coach despite him winning COY. The issue here is that our team just doesn't have the talent to compete against the top teams. We're on a rebuild and just lost our GM. We're clearly heading in a different direction but Darko is a great coach in terms of player development and tactics. Sure his substitution patterns maybe not the best but it's not like our guys are exact 6th men caliber out here. A guy like Jakobe gets time because he must be a good hard worker in practice and is relatively young so he gets rewarded.

Yes. The personnel doesn't match the intended style of play. Our Center needs to be a player that cleans up others mistakes, high level help defender, quick instincts for loose balls and long rebounds. Poeltl is good at what he does but hes not that quick guy that can switch onto smaller players and still recover and help at the rim. Were asking too much of him.

Our bench wings need to be elite off ball shooters. And Ingram needs to be more aggressive defensively, theres times where he doesn't mix it up physically or even steps aside instead of contesting at the rim. There needs to be more resitance from him. He's got alot of bad habits after playing with these bad teams. Our defense needs him to consistently be a 2 way player in order to compete with the best teams and the consistent effort we get from Scottie just is not there right now from Ingram.
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Re: Our coach sucks 

Post#60 » by Basketball_Jones » Thu Nov 13, 2025 5:10 am

To be honest, we’re not privy to a lot other than play this guy more or less. A lot could be us projecting. In that context, I like how he seems to keep things behind closed doors. I notice a stark difference in Scottie’s behaviour lately since beginning of the season and I have no doubt Darko had a lot to do with that but nobody really talks about it. I like how he seems to handle internal stuff, like with Schroeder we didn’t hear about until he left. So yeah, seems like he is as advertised as a players coach and inexperienced with X’s and O’s stuff.
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