Jokic stats last 9 games: 27/12/13 on 80% TS

[VINO 24]

I think it’s time to seriously delve into the “is this the best offensive player in the history of the game” because it sure as hell looks like it

[TheFire]

I’ve been watching basketball since 2000. This is the greatest player I’ve seen play with my own eyes.

[VINO 24]

I’ve been watching basketball since 2000. This is the greatest player I’ve seen play with my own eyes.

I think so. It doesn’t even sound far fetched anymore to say things like this

[bonita_the_frog]

"Only" 27ppg.

Just absurd on your part.

Why would the most unstoppable scorer with the best scoring arsenal in the NBA only be scoring 27ppg in the highest scoring era in NBA history?
Why is Jokic deferring to such a less efficient streaky shooter like Jamal Murray?
Its pure undeniable logic, he's prioritizing pretty stats over winning (leaving the outcome of games in the hands of relatively unreliable shooters).

I'm honestly at a loss for words. We really have someone asking why one of, if not the best passing big men of all time is using his passing to his advantage.

That's like saying Ben Wallace focused too much on rebounding and should've prioritized getting more blocks. I can't believe what I'm reading.

If you gamble by asking your less-efficient teammates to shoot the ball too often when YOU could be dominating with your all-time best shooting ability, you are gambling with the #1 seed in the West, and you NEED the #1 seed in the West to beat OKC in the playoffs.

If Denver don't finish #1 and OKC gets home-court ad, we'll be asking ourselves, "what about all those close games where Jokic didn't attempt many shots... what would happen if Jokic took control and took the big shots?"

[bonita_the_frog]

For everyone participating in this thread: there are some amphibious RealGMers who craft their posts very precisely to get reactions. I'm not writing any names, but now that you've been toad told, don't give them what they want, which is shock-and-awe reactions to their wild & crazy takes. Starve them with silence.

I'm the opposite of that, I literally live with a basketball coach so I know what happens when the best scorer in the NBA takes a backseat, and Jokic is doing just that... leaving Denver at the mercy of Jamal Murray, who can win you plenty of games, but he'll never be Jokic-level efficiency.

All I do is post pure logic as I've been taught all my life, and given OKC is on target for anther 68 win season, Jokic's usual unselfish brand won't be enough...

And looks like Jokic read my post today, 55 points

[Ryoga Hibiki]

The more Jokic defers, the less likely it is that Denver will win a championship.
Denver NEED homecourt ad to win a championship, now that the West is so packed, same as last year.
Jokic's never averaged 30ppg, despite even his running mate Jamal Murray being inconsistent.
So we'll see if 27ppg and 12ppg is enough for Denver to win the West, or whether all that passing will cost them.

I am having a very hard time telling if you're trolling or if you're being serious.

it doesn't look diffocult to me

[bonita_the_frog]

The more Jokic defers, the less likely it is that Denver will win a championship.
Denver NEED homecourt ad to win a championship, now that the West is so packed, same as last year.
Jokic's never averaged 30ppg, despite even his running mate Jamal Murray being inconsistent.
So we'll see if 27ppg and 12ppg is enough for Denver to win the West, or whether all that passing will cost them.

I am having a very hard time telling if you're trolling or if you're being serious.

it doesn't look diffocult to me

Me neither, Jokic today scored 55 points, 6 assists, doing exactly what i asked.
And notice i never said anyone was wrong, and never bullied anyone for having a different opinion to me.

[Infinite Llamas]

I am having a very hard time telling if you're trolling or if you're being serious.

it doesn't look diffocult to me

Me neither, Jokic today scored 55 points, 6 assists, doing exactly what i asked.
And notice i never said anyone was wrong, and never bullied anyone for having a different opinion to me.

So Jokic score the points or he gets assists and others score the points.

Can you explain what I’m missing here??

[zero rings]

it doesn't look diffocult to me

Me neither, Jokic today scored 55 points, 6 assists, doing exactly what i asked.
And notice i never said anyone was wrong, and never bullied anyone for having a different opinion to me.

So Jokic score the points or he gets assists and others score the points.

Can you explain what I’m missing here??

Her dad has the world's biggest basketball DVD collection.

You wouldn't understand.

[1993Playoffs]

I’m so impressed with his efficiency.

[BruttoNostra]

For everyone participating in this thread: there are some amphibious RealGMers who craft their posts very precisely to get reactions. I'm not writing any names, but now that you've been toad told, don't give them what they want, which is shock-and-awe reactions to their wild & crazy takes. Starve them with silence.

Just saying, this response should get its own (locked) Sticky thread in the General Board.

[BruttoNostra]

but, but, but he only got 6 assists tonight, which is like D'Angelo Russell's season average or whatever (in bold, ofc), booooo the fatty

[scrabbarista]

Absolutely ridiculous

Read on Twitter

So, you wanna force him to the 3-10 feet range.


Where he only shoots 70%.

[bonita_the_frog]

it doesn't look diffocult to me

Me neither, Jokic today scored 55 points, 6 assists, doing exactly what i asked.
And notice i never said anyone was wrong, and never bullied anyone for having a different opinion to me.

So Jokic score the points or he gets assists and others score the points.

Can you explain what I’m missing here??

The problem is if Jokic focuses on playmaking and setting up his teammates consistently there will be games where his teammates go completely cold... and when you see him averaging 12 assists you know he's focused too much on playmaking and leaving Denver at the mercy of Murray and others who can go cold any given night.

And that will cost them victories (which they cannot afford, because they need to win 65+ games just to have a chance of finishing #1 in the West, which they need for homecourt advantage in Game 7 vs. OKC).

Whereas if Jokic focuses on scoring the success rate will be greater, because he's more efficient and more consistent than all his teammates (teammates like Jamal Murray who can be streaky).

Today Jokic focused on scoring, scored 55 points and attempted 23 field goals, while Murray only attempted 16, and that's how it should be always (or at the very least Jokic should be taking more shots than Murray).

And BTW i know Denver can win plenty of games with Jokic taking a backseat (probably win 50 games like last season), but the risk of doing that ALWAYS is not something they can afford, when you know OKC is headed for 65+ wins.

That's all i'll say on this thread, because a lot of my answers are repeating the same thing

[mkot]

I was watching this in real time and thought that was too early...what do I know

Read on Twitter

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[SA37]

Meh. He's mentally checked out.

If only he cared for basketball like he does horses...

[NYPiston]

He's clearly in the top 10 all time for me. It's hard to come up with an argument against it at this point.

[tsherkin]

The more Jokic defers, the less likely it is that Denver will win a championship.
Denver NEED homecourt ad to win a championship, now that the West is so packed, same as last year.
Jokic's never averaged 30ppg, despite even his running mate Jamal Murray being inconsistent.
So we'll see if 27ppg and 12ppg is enough for Denver to win the West, or whether all that passing will cost them.

You make bad takes regularly. This is another.

99% of people make bad takes regularly, so saying I make bad takes, means I make good takes.
And if Jokic is so unstoppable, why doesn't he try to carry his team's scoring?

Those 12 assists per game only have to dry up (as in his teammates miss shots) for one quarter of a game, and Denver fall further being OKC in the standings.
And make no mistake, Denver NEED the #1 seed, if their goal is to win a championship.

The goal is surely not for Jokic to have pretty stats...

The authentic answer to this is that Denver is explicitly trying to get the rest of the team going so that, come the playoffs, teams can't just force Jokic to do everything himself.

[Iwasawitness]

Why would the most unstoppable scorer with the best scoring arsenal in the NBA only be scoring 27ppg in the highest scoring era in NBA history?
Why is Jokic deferring to such a less efficient streaky shooter like Jamal Murray?
Its pure undeniable logic, he's prioritizing pretty stats over winning (leaving the outcome of games in the hands of relatively unreliable shooters).

I'm honestly at a loss for words. We really have someone asking why one of, if not the best passing big men of all time is using his passing to his advantage.

That's like saying Ben Wallace focused too much on rebounding and should've prioritized getting more blocks. I can't believe what I'm reading.

If you gamble by asking your less-efficient teammates to shoot the ball too often when YOU could be dominating with your all-time best shooting ability, you are gambling with the #1 seed in the West, and you NEED the #1 seed in the West to beat OKC in the playoffs.

If Denver don't finish #1 and OKC gets home-court ad, we'll be asking ourselves, "what about all those close games where Jokic didn't attempt many shots... what would happen if Jokic took control and took the big shots?"

You don't need the number one anything to beat anyone in the playoffs. How long have you been watching basketball for exactly?

[Ssj16]

I find it funny when some people say us fans "glaze" Jokic. But the guy is making history season after season.

Props to SGA as he's doing amazing stuff with OKC and shoutout to other MVP contenders but the only other player who's play is outerworldly is Wemby.

The difference is, Wemby has only being doing it for 10 games. Jokic has been doing this ish for 6 seasons and keeps getting better every season.