NBA General Discussion

[Jailblazers7]

The Clippers’ problem is the league’s figured out their style of offense which is slow, single-point attack. Today’s offenses are faster, multi-point attack system which is harder to defend.

I think the league figured out that Harden and Kawhi aren’t really a threat anymore. The heliocentric model is still works but you’ve gotta have an elite star in his prime - see Luka in LA.

[GoSixersBro]

Avdija quietly putting up 25-5-5 every night and nobody bats an eye. Even I don’t. We all just assume it’s another Beal averaged 30 kind of fluke season.

Everyone and their mother averages 25 in this era. Back in my day averaging 25 was an achievement!

[76ciology]

Avdija quietly putting up 25-5-5 every night and nobody bats an eye. Even I don’t. We all just assume it’s another Beal averaged 30 kind of fluke season.

Everyone and their mother averages 25 in this era. Back in my day averaging 25 was an achievement!

John Stockton averaged just 12 a game the year they reached the Finals vs the Bulls. Seeing Austin Reaves go on that stretch dropping 40 like a Temu version of Luka makes me question every scoring stat these days.

[GoSixersBro]

Avdija quietly putting up 25-5-5 every night and nobody bats an eye. Even I don’t. We all just assume it’s another Beal averaged 30 kind of fluke season.

Everyone and their mother averages 25 in this era. Back in my day averaging 25 was an achievement!

John Stockton averaged just 12 a game the year they reached the Finals vs the Bulls. Seeing Austin Reaves go on that stretch dropping 40 like a Temu version of Luka makes me question every scoring stat these days.

Yep. My post was half in jest. In my opinion, the modern day basketball player is more skillful and on-ball talent is more widespread compared to previous generations, but today's style of play makes it easier to score more points than 10-15 years ago.

It's a debate that touches nerves of fans who grew up during different eras, but there's plenty of nuance when debating these things. But IMO you put Iverson or Kobe in 2025 they'd easily lead the league and average 40-43 IMO.

[Jailblazers7]

OKC hasn’t had their 2nd best player all season and they’re still 11-1 beating teams by 14.4 on average. And their one loss was by 2 points on the 2nd night of a road back to back where they traveled from LA to Portland. They’re just an absolute machine.

[the_process]

Add the Clips and the Mavs to the list of tanking teams.

[zaz102]

Add the Clips and the Mavs to the list of tanking teams.

Clippers FRP goes to OKC.

[Jailblazers7]

Add the Clips and the Mavs to the list of tanking teams.

Clippers FRP goes to OKC.

Watch OKC land Cameron Boozer with that pick.

[Stanford]

Add the Clips and the Mavs to the list of tanking teams.

Clippers FRP goes to OKC.

Unreal.

[M2J]

Everyone and their mother averages 25 in this era. Back in my day averaging 25 was an achievement!

John Stockton averaged just 12 a game the year they reached the Finals vs the Bulls. Seeing Austin Reaves go on that stretch dropping 40 like a Temu version of Luka makes me question every scoring stat these days.

Yep. My post was half in jest. In my opinion, the modern day basketball player is more skillful and on-ball talent is more widespread compared to previous generations, but today's style of play makes it easier to score more points than 10-15 years ago.

It's a debate that touches nerves of fans who grew up during different eras, but there's plenty of nuance when debating these things. But IMO you put Iverson or Kobe in 2025 they'd easily lead the league and average 40-43 IMO.

It's true. That's why it's so hard to compare eras. There are outlier players that were more skilled back then than today. But the coaching is different to where they're teaching centers to bring the ball up court and shoot threes and still be able to roll to the basket. They're definitely not teaching post moves necessarily though. Pretty much all perimeter players are taught to run the pick and roll to some degree. The way kids study the game is different than they used to. Information is much more available even to the public in terms of how to play certain positions and how to train. That's in all sports... Which is why you're more likely to see rookies like quarterbacks more prepared than they used to be.

[76ciology]

A guard who can shoot and has a polished scoring bag, stepback, midrange footwork, and a floater can easily give you 16–20 points with enough reps. That’s why today’s game is shifting away from traditional PnR toward drive and dish/weave action like actions that stretch the defense until a clean look opens up. Its easier than before to create gaps on the defense without a screen. The Heat are a prime example, running an efficient offense through Davion Mitchell, Jaquez, and Bam.

And when you look around the league, how many players like that are actually available? Take today for example the Pistons rested Cade, and Daniss Jenkins came out of nowhere to drop 20 and 10, carrying the team. It’s become so obvious that even the Bucks chose to waive and stretch Dame, replacing him with Rollins (and KPJ).

[76ciology]

Is it just me or is Avdija getting little media coverage for what he is doing this season? 25-7-5 carrying the Blazers to the playoffs.

[76ciology]

You have to wonder.. would the Sixers be in the same mess the Clippers are in if Harden had stayed and Philly just built around James and Embiid? It was a blessing in disguise that Harden asked to be traded.

[Zumramania]

Paul Reed last night against the Bulls: 28 pts / 13 rebs / 6 assists / 4 steals. Great to see him ballin'!

[GoSixersBro]

You have to wonder.. would the Sixers be in the same mess the Clippers are in if Harden had stayed and Philly just built around James and Embiid? It was a blessing in disguise that Harden asked to be traded.

Harden also was Sensei to the league's best young guard and has done wonders for his career.

[Mik317]

Harden probably would have asked for a trade by this point if he had of stayed lol

[M2J]

You have to wonder.. would the Sixers be in the same mess the Clippers are in if Harden had stayed and Philly just built around James and Embiid? It was a blessing in disguise that Harden asked to be traded.

Harden also was Sensei to the league's best young guard and has done wonders for his career.

100%, And at the time Harden asked out.... It was beyond obvious Maxey was ready to be an all star and I wanted Harden gone due to it.

Harden a great player still, but he can't be your "system" because he's too ball dominant to choke the way he does.

[Arsenal]

OUT DA MUD! BRING HIM BACK!!!

[Zumramania]

OKC hasn’t had their 2nd best player all season and they’re still 11-1 beating teams by 14.4 on average. And their one loss was by 2 points on the 2nd night of a road back to back where they traveled from LA to Portland. They’re just an absolute machine.

Also, this is happening after all these years of talking constantly about the "big trio" of Westbrook, Harden, and Durant - out of whom only Durant won a title on super easy mode with Warriors.
And now Thunder won a title with team-oriented basketball and Shai, one of the most quiet superstars ever. And are on their way to win it again. It is interesting how these things play out, but one thing is sure, the Thunder are a well-managed organization.